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Elleby's shooting looks poor, and I don't expect some huge revelation there, but I do think he could turn into a Justise Winslow type for us. I pulled up CJ's season, versus Winslow's career for comparison:

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm...=ellebcj01&p1yrfrom=2022&player_id2=winslju01

Sorry, I have no idea how to embed their charts, so if nobody wants to follow the link, I understand, but it shows them with very comparable per/36 and advanced numbers.
Most of us seem pretty excited about what Winslow could bring, even with a broken shot, so it seems we shouldn't be too quick to just write Elleby off as a non contributor in year 2.
 
RR7 said:
Elleby's shooting looks poor, and I don't expect some huge revelation there, but I do think he could turn into a Justise Winslow type for us. .
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The thing that gives me hope for CJE's shooting to improve is his form is not that bad. No reason for him to come up short when he is attacking the basket, and even though he bricks a lot of 3 pt shots, it seems like it is fixable over the course of a summer
 
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blazerfan11 said:
CJ Elleby's true shooting percentage is .508 . That is better than the following players (this is only a partial list):
Devonte Graham, starting SG for the Pelicans.
Furkan Korkmaz
Russell Westbrook
Blake Griffin
Talen Horten-Tucker
Payton Pritchard
Immaneul Quickley
Justise Winslow
Cameron Payne
Garrett Temple
Kyle Anderson
Darius Bazley
Spencer Dinwiddie
Reggie Jackson, starting PG for the Clippers
Cade Cunningham, starting PG for the Pistons
Josh Giddey
Davion Mitchell
Killian Hayes
Keon Johnson

There are a lot of crappy scorers in the NBA at Elleby's level. I think Elleby fails the eye test, and the other players look better chucking, and chuck a lot more.
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CJE is missing open Js, while those guys are taking more contested shots.
It's the Aminu thing all over again (teams leaving him open), but CJ's not as good as Aminu.
 
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Wizard Mentor said:
CJE is missing open Js, while those guys are taking more contested shots.
It's the Aminu thing all over again (teams leaving him open), but CJ's not as good as Aminu.
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Yeah and it’s not just open Js, his finishing around the rim is really bad. At least Aminu could finish those bunnies. Keon shouldn’t struggle to find minutes, and Hughes should probably take Ellebys minutes too.
 
blazerfan11 said:
Maybe they asked Ben if he would like to stick around next season and he said "Yes."

I think if anyone thinks Keon Johnson is going to take Elleby's starting role or most of his minutes, you're drinking or smoking something pretty potent.
Are you watching the games? Elleby's a 6'6" 21-year-old who has the court awareness of a veteran. He's always in the right place on defense and always making the right passes. He even brings the ball up the court sometimes to start the offense. He does all the "little things" right, that aren't little at all if you're a role player.
Elleby played 35 minutes in Milwaukee and had a team-high plus/minus of +29. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see any indication he's going to be replaced by a smaller, less-able player who's more athletic.
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Did you come down from the high from whatever you were drinking or smoking yet???
 
My rotation out of the break

Ant
Hart
Hughes
Winslow
Nurk

Keon
McLemore
Hart
Brown
Watford

Also wouldn’t necessarily be against Bledsoe playing on that second unit, but not at Keons expense. Elleby can pick up whatever crumbs are left.
 
calvin natt said:
The Elleby talk feels like the “Jake Layman can really play” talk from a few years ago. He’s meaningless.
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Aside from 1-2 posters that are pro-Elleby, I don’t see much “positive talk” about him. Most of the talk is get CJ outta here.
 
Interesting to hear the Clips beat writer impressions of him. Basically, he calls him a 2 years project that is super-raw.

 
Scalma said:
My rotation out of the break

Ant
Hart
Hughes
Winslow
Nurk

Keon
McLemore
Hart
Brown
Watford

Also wouldn’t necessarily be against Bledsoe playing on that second unit, but not at Keons expense. Elleby can pick up whatever crumbs are left.
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That rotation has a lot of Hart!

More seriously, You're dumping CJ, which I don't think they will. But yes, they should.
 
OneSport3 said:
Did you come down from the high from whatever you were drinking or smoking yet???
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Tell me when you think Elleby will be out of the starting lineup. Give a date.
I predict Elleby will be a starter for the rest of the season, unless Dame returns.
You give your date, then we'll see who is closer.
 
blazerfan11 said:
Tell me when you think Elleby will be out of the starting lineup. Give a date.
I predict Elleby will be a starter for the rest of the season, unless Dame returns.
You give your date, then we'll see who is closer.
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March 12th. I'll give him 6 more games.
 
I hope Keon gets a crack here shortly; though from what I've seen of him, I don't have high expectations he'll ever be a meaningful player in the league.

Hope I'm wrong.
 
The X factor for a young guy like Keon's chances IMO is Billups and his staff. Billups seems to me a great coach for young moldable guys, especially guards/wings. They seem to really listen to him (buy in) and he seems to not only have the knowledge but has the "gift" to impart that knowledge in a very effective way - IMO a fairly rare and very valuable attribute. I love what he's done with Ant and Nas, and even Elleby going from nothing to at least playable.
 
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Will be interesting to see what position he plays.
 
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