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LayneStaley said:
Blazers were high on Keon like many others, he’s young and who knows what will happen but I don’t think it’s that far of a stretch to think he might turn out to be the best player in the trade eventually.
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Yep. I remember the Pau for Kwame/Marc deal. Marc was considered filler but turned out to be a franchise player and got them to the WCF.
 
We'll see what Joe does up to deadline he might not do nothing. But I think he's looking towards next year not the remainder of this season. So out all those 3 players he probably was highlights Keon for the future and other 2 was to help the salaries to match. More likely both will be down the road next year.
 
nbadraftroom:


“Johnson will need some time to refine his ball-handling, shooting and play-making skills but his elite athleticism and rock solid frame give him a nice NBA ceiling. At this point he drives the ball mostly to the right but he does so effectively and with a lot of success. He’s got great burst into the lane and explodes above the rim.

In some ways he plays like a young Ron Artest, being physical in the paint, rebounding the heck out the ball and also initiating the offense as a point forward. Another player Johnson reminds me of is Jaylen Brown, with his physical driving style and high end athleticism. It’s too early to say if he’ll be as good as those two players but the tools are there.”

 
Fez Forthright said:
nbadraftroom:


“Johnson will need some time to refine his ball-handling, shooting and play-making skills but his elite athleticism and rock solid frame give him a nice NBA ceiling. At this point he drives the ball mostly to the right but he does so effectively and with a lot of success. He’s got great burst into the lane and explodes above the rim.

In some ways he plays like a young Ron Artest, being physical in the paint, rebounding the heck out the ball and also initiating the offense as a point forward. Another player Johnson reminds me of is Jaylen Brown, with his physical driving style and high end athleticism. It’s too early to say if he’ll be as good as those two players but the tools are there.”
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Cool. Can't wait to see it in 2027.
 
LayneStaley said:
Blazers were high on Keon like many others, he’s young and who knows what will happen but I don’t think it’s that far of a stretch to think he might turn out to be the best player in the trade eventually.
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Of course we were high on him. He is another 6'4ish guard.
 
Blazinaway said:
I think Dame knew of the trade before it was made, likely no explaining needed, who knows WTF will happen? maybe more moves, maybe Dame's gone too, we will see
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No one knew this was coming. Cronin winged it.
 
riverman said:
Don't buy that at all...I'm sure Norm, Roco, Dame and Chauncey and Jody knew this was coming and probably know what's to follow. The media didn't know this was coming but the franchise knows exactly what the plan is. Agents tend to talk to their clients about these things
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You wouldn't believe me anyway so sure let's go with that.
 
Tince said:
I take it you weren't one of the people around here who was real high on Jones? Some thought he was the missing piece.
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They both have hops(I think Keon broke the combine record actually) but Keon is way more coordinated and doesn’t look like a baby fawn trying to walk for the first time and doesn’t end up on the ground 15 times per game.
 
riverman said:
Don't buy that at all...I'm sure Norm, Roco, Dame and Chauncey and Jody knew this was coming and probably know what's to follow. The media didn't know this was coming but the franchise knows exactly what the plan is. Agents tend to talk to their clients about these things
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I think this is a hard moment for the people who have been artificially propping up the players/contracts on our roster the last handful of years. Having to face the reality that we were over-valuing guys by way of trade and contracts and not wanting to blame Billups (he shouldn't be blamed), leaves very few options.
 
LayneStaley said:
They both have hops(I think Keon broke the combine record actually) but Keon is way more coordinated and doesn’t look like a baby fawn trying to walk for the first time and doesn’t end up on the ground 15 times per game.
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My scout on him is different. I feel he's very offensively challenged. Not to say he can't get better (Nas has), but this guy will not be ready to contribute in Dame's prime IMO.
 
Tince said:
I think this is a hard moment for the people who have been artificially propping up the players/contracts on our roster the last handful of years. Having to face the reality that we were over-valuing guys by way of trade and contracts and not wanting to blame Billups (he shouldn't be blamed), leaves very few options.
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Norman Powell has value around the league. 3 and D guy with a handle. We settled in that trade and also gave up the best player in the deal.

I’m not saying we could’ve got someone special for Norman. But Eric Bledsoe and parts? Yuck
 
Sounds like Johnson was the jewel for the Blazers but what is curious is he is like 6'4 and even if he can blossom are the Blazers setting themselves up for small guard issue in the future if he does turn into a good player ?

I believe in the Blazers mind they traded Powell and Cov for Bledsoe ( some cap saving ) , Justice ( Harkless 2.0 project / longshot AND a 1st round pick in Johnson -- now it's a gamble but let's say johnson is 1st round talent if this is the case was it really as bad as we all think it was meaning this trade talent wise went from a F / D to maybe a C plus to solid B IF Johnson can live up to his potential.

I went around and read some of the scouting reports and seems like HIGH ceiling but a LOW floor too so it is a gamble BUT one thing i noticed is almost every report i read says he can be a great D player in the league and one even mentioned a young Ron Artest and he has MAD hops broke the vertical record in the combine too.
 
MickZagger said:
Norman Powell has value around the league. 3 and D guy with a handle. We settled in that trade and also gave up the best player in the deal.

I’m not saying we could’ve got someone special for Norman. But Eric Bledsoe and parts? Yuck
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Why do you think we turned down better offers to settle for Bledsoe?

5 year deals for role players are typically not loved around the league. And I like Powell more than most here.
 
Tince said:
Why do you think we turned down better offers to settle for Bledsoe?

5 year deals for role players are typically not loved around the league. And I like Powell more than most here.
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I think we didn’t exercise patience. A week to go and you’re pulling the trigger on that deal?

GM’s get a little more desperate when it’s crunch time.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
Sounds like Johnson was the jewel for the Blazers but what is curious is he is like 6'4 and even if he can blossom are the Blazers setting themselves up for small guard issue in the future if he does turn into a good player ?

I went around and read some of the scouting reports and seems like HIGH ceiling but a LOW floor too so it is a gamble BUT one thing i noticed is almost every report i read says he can be a great D player in the league and one even mentioned a young Ron Artest and he has MAD hops broke the vertical record in the combine too.
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I know I am in the minority here, but again it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.
There are plenty of short guards who are good defensively (and can score) CP3 is prime example #1. And plenty of tall guards who are not.
You are either a good defender or you are not. I have no idea if Keon is but an extra inch or two IMO does not make much difference at the guard position.
 
riverman said:
Where does that come from? You don't need to agree with me....I actually tried to listen to you and Eric discuss this and honestly it was more than a little unpleasant...had to lower the volume on my headphones to keep the screaming out....sorry man...I didn't have the ears to withstand your reaction to the trade...very over the top and angry. Choices....I also read your trade ideas and thought you really over valued our players in trades...that's not me not believing you, that's me having a different opinion than you. Not the first time but man....I thought Stephen A Smith was over the top loud..you guys gave him a run for his money.
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Okay, let's just say you don't know some things and leave it at that.

People love that we show true emotion and don't hold back when the team makes a horrific trade.
 
BonesJones said:
Okay, let's just say you don't know some things and leave it at that.

People love that we show true emotion and don't hold back when the team makes a horrific trade.
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I loved it. I was feeling the same kind of way. It is an indefensible trade. You'll notice like 95% of the board is sad. The other 5% will never be upset with the Blazers unless they moved. And they would probably still spin it and forgive them.
 
riverman said:
I know anger and bad microphone technique when I see it..the difference is......my "spirit" isn't broken over it...other than that..loud outraged sportscasters have viewers....I'm not a sports fan who enjoys that ...as to what I don't know...I'm not selling opinions for money....or looking for an audience so...that I know. I've always wished you guys well with your product but if you don't respect the feedback then that's where we leave it....
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We know what were doing and why it works for us, but yes, I respect your feedback.
 
maxiep said:
I'm so excited! FINALLY we get an undersized shooting guard on this roster!
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I don't know which to be more excited about: Keon Johnson as a Blazer or The Commanders as an NFL team name.
 
riverman said:
Chauncey has never struck me as a politician nor has Joe....if Neil was still around you'd have a point but judging someone's character or intentions is pure speculation. I love the way these guys present themselves...especially Joe...that guy doesn' t bother to wear a tie or iron a shirt...he's a gym rat...I think we're in very good hands. Nobody is getting fooled by the press...some in the press are trying to fool folks but hey.....that's the way controversy gets off the ground. The old pitchfork and torches crowd gets in a rage but that doesn't take much prodding in sports. Joe Cronin isn't getting fired...that's my speculation.
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He says the right thing every time. I've never once seen him go rogue. Whenever he criticizes publicly he follows it up with praise. The dude is incredibly media savvy. He would say the right thing because if he said he didn't know about it and hinted that he didn't like it that would hurt our chances of getting good value in the next deal or deals because other GMs would smell blood in the water.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Cj/bledsoe/nance aNd whatever picks for Simmons?
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There's no way to make that combo work with the trade restrictions on Bledsoe. With that said if we could get a lottery protected first, Boucher and Achiuwa from the Raptors and then trade that first and our second this year to the Bulls for our first back then we would free up our future first rounders and could do this.

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I don't really know what we would do for the rest of this season but we would need to re-sign Boucher and obviously Ant in the off season. We would have Dame, Ant, Nas, Simmons, Boucher, Achiuwa, our first rounder, GB3, Johnson and a bunch of min players.
 
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