(Kinda OT) Chris Dudley getting caught up in this whole Kavanaugh mess

[KingSpeed]

I watched the entire thing... she couldn’t remember how she got to or from a party that was 20+ min drive away from her house... then she couldn’t remember the setting or who paid for her lie detector... then she was constantly looking to democratic senators for how she should answer or having her lawyers jump in... not to mention her lawyer was referred to her by a democrat senator... and the four people the she named as witnesses have no recollection of this event... but that is enough evidence for you... an accusation is enough.

If this happened to me 36 years ago, I would absolutely forget the little details but the sexual assault itself would be burned into my brain forever.

 

[Gronk Brady]

A big thing to think about here: whatever decision is made by the Senate sets an example for today’s teenagers. Do we want to tell them that they can drink, lie, and commit sexual assault and they can still be a Supreme Court Justice?

Or do we want to tell them they can be found guilty of a crime they didn’t commit with no evidence, just an accusation no matter how good a person they are

 

[dviss1]

I listened to hers.

I was working during his and caught clips.

Serious question: Have you ever been sexually assaulted?

I have. I was 10. She was my 16 year old babysitter.

My mother still doesn't know. I've told only a chosen few.

Now the forum knows.

Certain details are fuzzy but there are things You NEVER forget.
Her facial expressions. Her lies to get my pants down. I've even seen her in passing and when I look at her she knows I remember.

That bitch better not run for public office!

Kavanaugh did it bro. He really did.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Do we want to tell them that they can drink, lie, and commit sexual assault and they can still be a Supreme Court Justice?

Well, only if they are democrats.

 

[KingSpeed]

For example: I remember 1987 when my ex-girlfriend made out with a guy at a dance but I don’t remember fucking drove me to the dance.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Serious question: Have you ever been sexually assaulted?

Yes.

 

[KingSpeed]

Or do we want to tell them they can be found guilty of a crime they didn’t commit with no evidence, just an accusation no matter how good a person they are

We’ll see what the FBI says.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

For example: I remember 1987 when my ex-girlfriend made out with a guy at a dance but I don’t remember fucking drove me to the dance.

Her recent memory was scatterbrained as well. Not just stuff from 35 years ago.

 

[Boob-No-More]

It wasn't idiocy. It was the multiplier effect.

As Republicans know, if you can't get votes from the masses voluntarily, then get a few rich donors to pay for expert advisors, advertising, and grandiose events. Manipulate those dumb reluctant masses into voting for you. Then, repay the donors with tax breaks.

Yep, the Republicans tried to buy that race for Dudley:

"Dudley raised and spent a total of $10.3 million, the largest amount ever in a governor's campaign. Kitzhaber raised and spent $7.4 million."

So, in spite of spending 40% more than Kitzhaber, Dudley still lost.

BNM

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Yep, the Republicans tried to buy that race for Dudley:

"Dudley raised and spent a total of $10.3 million, the largest amount ever in a governor's campaign. Kitzhaber raised and spent $7.4 million."

So, in spite of spending 40% more than Kitzhaber, Dudley still lost.

BNM

HOW DID KITZHABER TURN OUT?

 

[MarAzul]

This is bullshit. You always follow the story until it's conclusion.

You'd have hated it if they decided not to investigate Clinton. The pendulum swings both ways.

>>> I am not sure how the Clinton investigation fits in here. But, I was always irritated by that investigation.
I found it silly and totally the wrong thing to do. I do not think the President should be distracted from his duties with investigations while in office. This single error may of contributed to some of the disaster we had following his Presidency because he only had time
to order a few missiles lobbed while he was in office rather that getting to the bottom of the many threats at hand.

This is bullshit. You always follow the story until it's conclusion.

>>> Can't relate to what this comment is doing here.

You'd have hated it if they decided not to investigate Clinton. The pendulum swings both ways.
>>> See above.

You seem to only get upset when the conservatives are in the crosshairs.

>>> See above.

Kavanaugh, punchable face and all.

Ah! There is that punchable face again? Intriguing!
I wonder if the face needs explaining? Or is it the mind that is conceiving the perception?

 

[Gronk Brady]

Yep, the Republicans tried to buy that race for Dudley:

"Dudley raised and spent a total of $10.3 million, the largest amount ever in a governor's campaign. Kitzhaber raised and spent $7.4 million."

So, in spite of spending 40% more than Kitzhaber, Dudley still lost.

BNM

You are bragging about democratic governors that have turned Portland into a cesspool with all the homelessness and drug use, and some of the worst schools in the country... not to mention Kitzhaber resigned due to an ethics scandal

 

[Chris Craig]

A big thing to think about here: whatever decision is made by the Senate sets an example for today’s teenagers. Do we want to tell them that they can drink, lie, and commit sexual assault and they can still be a Supreme Court Justice?

The American Dream

 

[Hoopguru]

I listen to both testimonies and here's my take away. Because he expressed bias against the Clintons in one of his response, that alone was enough for me not to confirm him. We need unbiased Justices! And I think the Clintons are both selfish and corrupt and well mow anyone down to get what they want.
And SCJ shouldn't be for life.

Her testimony was only a bit compelling to me as she couldn't remember how she got there, where the house was and how she got home.
And I thought for a professor that is well educated, she came across very babyish and confused, very child like. She was imo being dramatic in a kid like way.
I think she was taken advantage of by her attorneys and the dem's for not allowing her to be interviewed in private as was her wish way earlier. Pretty obvious what their strategy was.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

So, for those that are saying that Kavanaugh shouldn't be on the Supreme Court because he allegedly lied under oath.....

Bill Clinton perjured himself under oath. So you would agree that he should have been impeached because of this? If you are consistent with your high moral ground stance, you would say "yes".

I, on the other hand, thought that it was complete BS to begin with.

 

[dviss1]

I watched the entire thing... she couldn’t remember how she got to or from a party that was 20+ min drive away from her house... then she couldn’t remember the setting or who paid for her lie detector... then she was constantly looking to democratic senators for how she should answer or having her lawyers jump in... not to mention her lawyer was referred to her by a democrat senator... and the four people the she named as witnesses have no recollection of this event... but that is enough evidence for you... an accusation is enough.

Ever been sexually assaulted?

If not you only have your perspective.

Listen to the perspective of those who havehave.

Ronald Reagan fan? His daughter was sexually assaulted and she never reported it and didn't remember lots of the details.

I was sexually assaulted. Here’s why I don’t remember many of the details.

Roughly 40 years ago, I showed up at a prominent music executive’s office for an appointment that had been scheduled suspiciously late in the workday. But I wasn’t suspicious. I was instead eager to try to place some of my original songs with artists he represented. One of my songs had appeared on the Eagles album “One of These Nights,” and I was hoping to turn songwriting into a career.

I brought along a cassette tape of my material, but I don’t remember what the executive said about the songs. Nor do I recall what we talked about. I remember the sky turning dark outside the window behind his desk. I remember sensing that people had left the building and we were there alone. I remember his face, his hair and what he was wearing. When he pulled a vial of cocaine out of his desk drawer and started chopping up lines on a small mirror, I’m 90 percent sure I declined his offer to do some with him, not because I didn’t do drugs — I definitely did in those years — but because I was starting to feel uncomfortable. My memory of the discomfort is sharp and clear, but my memory of declining the coke is, as I said, about 90 percent.

What happened next, though, is indelible. He crossed the room. There was a dark-green carpet, but his footsteps seemed loud, hard. He was against me, on top of me — so quickly — with his hands under my skirt and his mouth on mine, that I froze. I lay there as he pushed himself inside me. The leather couch stuck to my skin, made noises beneath me. His breath smelled like coffee and stale bread. He didn’t use a condom. I remember leaving afterward, driving home, the night around me glittered with streetlights and alive with people out at dinner or bars. I felt alone, ashamed and disgusted with myself. Why didn’t I get out of there? Why didn’t I push him off? Why did I freeze?

I don’t remember what month it was. I don’t remember whether his assistant was still there when I arrived. I don’t remember whether we said anything to each other when I left his office.

I never told anyone for decades — not a friend, not a boyfriend, not a therapist, not my husband when I got married years later.

Opinion | Have we changed since Anita Hill's testimony?
As Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh faces a sexual misconduct allegation, columnist Ruth Marcus asks, who's responsible for the burden of proof? (Gillian Brockell/The Washington Post)

It doesn’t surprise me one bit that for more than 30 years, Christine Blasey Ford didn’t talk about the assault she remembers, the one she accuses Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh of committing.

It’s important to understand how memory works in a traumatic event. Ford has been criticized for the things she doesn’t remember, like the address where she says the assault happened, or the time of year, or whose house it was. But her memory of the attack itself is vivid and detailed. His hand over her mouth, another young man piling on, her fear that maybe she’d die there, unable to breathe. That’s what happens: Your memory snaps photos of the details that will haunt you forever, that will change your life and live under your skin. It blacks out other parts of the story that really don’t matter much.

Ford wants the FBI to investigate so that some of the details she doesn’t remember can be established. It’s a brave request. Perhaps the aging men who are poised to interrogate her, unless they hide behind surrogates, should pause for a moment and think about the courage it takes for a woman to say: Here is my memory. It has haunted me for decades. It changed my life. You need to know about it now because of what is at stake for this country.

Requesting an investigation into the incident isn’t a big ask. Unless they just want her to go away. Which is, by the way, one reason that women are scared to speak up.

 

[Boob-No-More]

A big thing to think about here: whatever decision is made by the Senate sets an example for today’s teenagers. Do we want to tell them that they can drink, lie, and commit sexual assault and they can still be a Supreme Court Justice?

Unfortunately, we (as in we, the people) don't get to decide. Those deciding are a bunch of greedy old white men who are are more (only) concerned about pushing through a nominee who will do their bidding than they are about today's teenagers (or anyone else other than their fellow cronies). This isn't about doing what's best for the future of this country, it's about doing what's best for those who are currently in power and doing everything possible, no matter how immoral, unethical and even illegal, to keep themselves in power.

BNM

 

[MarAzul]

Was that a yes or no?

Either would be responses to a question.

 

[dviss1]

Or do we want to tell them they can be found guilty of a crime they didn’t commit with no evidence, just an accusation no matter how good a person they are

Don't say stupid things.

He's in a job interview dude.

We're deciding if he's fit for the job.

Plain and fucking simple.

 

[Chris Craig]

Tax cuts
Deregulation
Record unemployment
Record enemplyment for all minority’s
Wage increases
Record stock market
Renegotiated trade deals
Peace talks with North Korea

And these are bad things in your opinion?

All false fronts. Charades

 

[ripcityboy]

Yep, the Republicans tried to buy that race for Dudley:

"Dudley raised and spent a total of $10.3 million, the largest amount ever in a governor's campaign. Kitzhaber raised and spent $7.4 million."

So, in spite of spending 40% more than Kitzhaber, Dudley still lost.

BNM

Fuck. Gordon Smith would have had a hard time running as a conservative candidate for governor in this State. And he's about the most likable Republican I've ever met.

 

[Boob-No-More]

HOW DID KITZHABER TURN OUT?

Good enough to beat Dudley - unless we're talking about a bar fight, then my money's on Duds (he's a big guy, I've met him in person).

BNM

 

[Gronk Brady]

Ever been sexually assaulted?

If not you only have your perspective.

Listen to the perspective of those who havehave.

Ronald Reagan fan? His daughter was sexually assaulted and she never reported it and didn't remember lots of the details.

I was sexually assaulted. Here’s why I don’t remember many of the details.

Roughly 40 years ago, I showed up at a prominent music executive’s office for an appointment that had been scheduled suspiciously late in the workday. But I wasn’t suspicious. I was instead eager to try to place some of my original songs with artists he represented. One of my songs had appeared on the Eagles album “One of These Nights,” and I was hoping to turn songwriting into a career.

I brought along a cassette tape of my material, but I don’t remember what the executive said about the songs. Nor do I recall what we talked about. I remember the sky turning dark outside the window behind his desk. I remember sensing that people had left the building and we were there alone. I remember his face, his hair and what he was wearing. When he pulled a vial of cocaine out of his desk drawer and started chopping up lines on a small mirror, I’m 90 percent sure I declined his offer to do some with him, not because I didn’t do drugs — I definitely did in those years — but because I was starting to feel uncomfortable. My memory of the discomfort is sharp and clear, but my memory of declining the coke is, as I said, about 90 percent.

What happened next, though, is indelible. He crossed the room. There was a dark-green carpet, but his footsteps seemed loud, hard. He was against me, on top of me — so quickly — with his hands under my skirt and his mouth on mine, that I froze. I lay there as he pushed himself inside me. The leather couch stuck to my skin, made noises beneath me. His breath smelled like coffee and stale bread. He didn’t use a condom. I remember leaving afterward, driving home, the night around me glittered with streetlights and alive with people out at dinner or bars. I felt alone, ashamed and disgusted with myself. Why didn’t I get out of there? Why didn’t I push him off? Why did I freeze?

I don’t remember what month it was. I don’t remember whether his assistant was still there when I arrived. I don’t remember whether we said anything to each other when I left his office.

I never told anyone for decades — not a friend, not a boyfriend, not a therapist, not my husband when I got married years later.

Opinion | Have we changed since Anita Hill's testimony?
As Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh faces a sexual misconduct allegation, columnist Ruth Marcus asks, who's responsible for the burden of proof? (Gillian Brockell/The Washington Post)

It doesn’t surprise me one bit that for more than 30 years, Christine Blasey Ford didn’t talk about the assault she remembers, the one she accuses Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh of committing.

It’s important to understand how memory works in a traumatic event. Ford has been criticized for the things she doesn’t remember, like the address where she says the assault happened, or the time of year, or whose house it was. But her memory of the attack itself is vivid and detailed. His hand over her mouth, another young man piling on, her fear that maybe she’d die there, unable to breathe. That’s what happens: Your memory snaps photos of the details that will haunt you forever, that will change your life and live under your skin. It blacks out other parts of the story that really don’t matter much.

Ford wants the FBI to investigate so that some of the details she doesn’t remember can be established. It’s a brave request. Perhaps the aging men who are poised to interrogate her, unless they hide behind surrogates, should pause for a moment and think about the courage it takes for a woman to say: Here is my memory. It has haunted me for decades. It changed my life. You need to know about it now because of what is at stake for this country.

Requesting an investigation into the incident isn’t a big ask. Unless they just want her to go away. Which is, by the way, one reason that women are scared to speak up.

I have questions for you... do you believe people are innocent until proven guilty? Do you believe anyone has ever made false claims of sexual assault? Do you have a son, and how would you feel if he was accused and there was no evidence but you believe you son wouldn’t do that? Should your son be found guilty based only on her word?

 

[Gronk Brady]

All false fronts. Charades

What’s false?.. these are all facts. Or do you think opinions from CNN are facts? Man you are so brainwashed

 

[dviss1]

So, for those that are saying that Kavanaugh shouldn't be on the Supreme Court because he allegedly lied under oath.....

Bill Clinton perjured himself under oath. So you would agree that he should have been impeached because of this? If you are consistent with your high moral ground stance, you would say "yes".

I, on the other hand, thought that it was complete BS to begin with.

Stop. Your post sounds like and idiot.

What it's it with these Trumpets and their whataboutism???

Newsflash: Clinton fucking lost. Why the fuck do y'all keep bringing her up???

Y'all have majorities in every house of Congress, you have the POTUS, and the SCOTUS.

Run the FUCKING COUNTRY!!

Republicans talk shit and then suck at governing.

 

[Chris Craig]

Serious question: Have you ever been sexually assaulted?

I have. I was 10. She was my 16 year old babysitter.

My mother still doesn't know. I've told only a chosen few.

Now the forum knows.

Certain details are fuzzy but there are things You NEVER forget.
Her facial expressions. Her lies to get my pants down. I've even seen her in passing and when I look at her she knows I remember.

That bitch better not run for public office!

Kavanaugh did it bro. He really did.

Same thing happened to me. same ages. The rest of that day is hazy, the before and after. I remember what happened though. 24 years ago.

 

[Hoopguru]

I have questions for you... do you believe people are innocent until proven guilty? Do you believe anyone has ever made false claims of sexual assault? Do you have a son, and how would you feel if he was accused and there was no evidence but you believe you son wouldn’t do that? Should your son be found guilty based only on her word?

NO..must be compelling evidence and due process.

 

[MarAzul]

Have you ever been sexually assaulted?

Kavanaugh did it bro. He really did.

These two statement are stand alone. Not supportive in either way by any logical deduction.

 

[THE HCP]

Get this fuckin trash off our main page. Earn your checks MODS!

 

[Gronk Brady]

Get this fuckin trash off our main page. Earn your checks MODS!

I agree... I don’t want to respond but feel like I have to when I see what I think are ignorant post... but I hate seeing politics in a sports forum.