Kobe Bryant has died

[Rastapopoulos]

https://theathletic.com/1563301/2020/01/26/remembering-gigi-bryant-2006-2020/

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I was using this:

https://thepointsguy.com/news/are-helicopters-safe-how-they-stack-up-against-planes-cars-and-trains/

Hours are not a good measure BTW. I must spend 100 hours in a car per month, easily, and 95% of that is in traffic at average speed of 15-20 mph, so that's not exactly dangerous. If I spent those 100 hours in a helicopter, from time along I'd be more likely to die but from ground covered it'd not be comparable at all. Choppers travel at well over 100 mph average, which cars don't.

Still it's beside the point. Likelihood of dying in a helicopter accident are really, really small and all things considered they are very safe. Kobe was using his helicopter almost on a daily basis for years.

Clearly you're in the pocket of Big Helicopter.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Also I'm of the opinion that if you don't have anyone nice to say about the man on a day like this, just don't comment. Keep yourself from posting about Kobe for the next 1-2 weeks, it's not that difficult.

Whatever he did or did not do, whatever was proven or not does not matter. It's undeniable that he had immense impact on the game we all love and that he did a lot of good outside of court and was an inspiration for many athletes and even just regular people around the world. Everyone has their weaknesses, he was no exception, but he was also a true great and did a lot of things he deserves huge credit for whether you like him or not.

I think it's unfair to silence people because they might have a different feeling about an individual. I believe part of the problem with society is people just don't want to listen, or hear from anyone that doesn't share their beliefs.

Why can't we all just try to be kind to one another?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Helicopters are way safer than cars. Blaming this tragedy on him 'having his rich boy's toys' is ridiculous. You are eight times more likely to die in a car accident, per 100.000 km, than a helicopter. They were using helicopters to commute for years.

These words needed to be said. You are so right

 

[Mediocre Man]

Drazen, Len Bias and Reggie Lewis probably are the three that come closest. Yet, that was a different era. Drazen was somewhat like Kobe in Europe, though...

The one that comes to mind for me is Magic. Obviously not dead, but most older NBA fans, and people in general, remember where they were when they heard he had hiv and was retiring immediately.

Len Bias died from cocaine, so for me at least, not remotely the same.

Drazen was so popular and loved in Europe, I'll bet that had a similar impact

 

[Mediocre Man]

So 3 children now confirmed on board.

 

[Lanny]

Are tears not an appropriate response to tragedy?

Not necessarily. The last time I can recall shedding a tear when a celebrity died was when President John Kennedy was assassinated.

In Kobe's case he was a rapist who got away with it. Paid his wife to remain with him with a Million dollar diamond ring. In addition his wife was warned by the other wives on the Lakers' team that he had lots of sex with groupies at road games. Not the upstanding citizen that a lot of people think.

 

[Lanny]

Apparently, the Raptors and Spurs each took 24-second violations to pause and honor Kobe.

So did the Blazers last night. Then, our opponent, Indiana, returned the favor by taking an 8 second back court violation and the game could continue with the Blazers taking the first shot, since they won the tipoff. Both teams paid their respects.

 

[Lanny]

So 3 children now confirmed on board.

Here's the real tragedy.

 

[AldoTrapani]

He was qualified to fly in the fog. A veternan flyer who taught others to fly.

So other helicopters intentionally grounded that morning but the pilot thought not?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

So other helicopters intentionally grounded that morning but the pilot thought not?

Why do I have the feeling that the family of the pilot is going to get a lot of vitriol from angry Kobe fans who blame the pilot for this?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

 

[Chris Craig]

Not necessarily. The last time I can recall shedding a tear when a celebrity died was when President John Kennedy was assassinated.

In Kobe's case he was a rapist who got away with it. Paid his wife to remain with him with a Million dollar diamond ring. In addition his wife was warned by the other wives on the Lakers' team that he had lots of sex with groupies at road games. Not the upstanding citizen that a lot of people think.

Maybe. He seemed to be trying to turn that all around and was a loving father. Maybe he wasn't always upstanding. But, he and his daughter just died. I choose to have respect for that.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I keep hearing people say that the NBA should retire Kobe's number leaguewide. That just seems super excessive to me. Am I alone here?

 

[Minstrel]

I keep hearing people say that the NBA should retire Kobe's number leaguewide. That just seems super excessive to me. Am I alone here?

The only number I've ever agreed with retiring league-wide, in any sport, was Jackie Robinson's. Unless you did something to transcend the game itself, I don't think a number should be retired league-wide. Kobe Bryant didn't transcend the game, shocking and untimely death or not.

And if he did commit rape, the gesture would be awful. But that said, I seriously doubt it's anything the league is actually considering.

 

[e_blazer]

I keep hearing people say that the NBA should retire Kobe's number leaguewide. That just seems super excessive to me. Am I alone here?

No, you're not alone. Kobe was a great player, but there have been lots of great players. The rape accusations tarnished him, in my view, but putting that aside, other than dying unexpectedly and young, what has Kobe done for the game that's worthy of special recognition that other greats before him didn't do? Wilt? MJ? Kareem? Jerry West? Oscar Robinson? Dr. J? LeBron?...

 

[Wade Garrett]

Not necessarily. The last time I can recall shedding a tear when a celebrity died was when President John Kennedy was assassinated.

In Kobe's case he was a rapist who got away with it. Paid his wife to remain with him with a Million dollar diamond ring. In addition his wife was warned by the other wiv hies on the Lakers' team that he had lots of sex with groupies at road games. Not the upstanding citizen that a lot of people think.

"Paid his wife to remain with him with a Million dollar diamond ring"
What a slanted load of crap.
"In addition his wife was warned that he had lots of sex with groupies at road games..."
Hate to burst your bubble, but that is commonplace in this league.
Doesn't make it right, but chances are one of your favorites has done the same.

 

[hoopsjock]

I keep hearing people say that the NBA should retire Kobe's number leaguewide. That just seems super excessive to me. Am I alone here?

Completely with you. I'm especially against those that say both 8 and 24 should be retired league wide. Kobe's one of the all-time greats and his death is tragic but why should the Blazers have to retire his number?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Kobe Bryant's helicopter pilot was given 'special clearance to fly at or below 2,500 feet in dangerous weather conditions' - relying only on his eyesight rather than instruments before the crash

• The helicopter carrying Bryant and his daughter, Gianna, left Santa Ana in Orange County shortly after 9am
• Conditions were not suitable for flying, according to Los Angeles police who grounded their own choppers
• Pilot was flying under visual flight rules (VFR), meaning he was relying on his ability to see terrain below him
• Around 9.20am, the helicopter circled for about 15 minutes east of Interstate-5, near Glendale, data shows
• Air traffic controllers held up the chopper for other aircraft for 11 minutes, before clearing it through Burbank
• The pilot, who was named as Ara Zobayan, could've contacted ATC and requested to switch to instrument flight rules (IFR), which would have allowed him to navigate through the clouds
• But when pilots fly under IFR, it can be time-consuming, especially in Southern California's busy airspace
• Aircraft continued under VFR and around 9.40am it turned west to follow US Route 101, the Ventura Highway
• Around 9.44am, the helicopter turned toward the southeast and climbed to more than 2,000 feet, in what appeared to be an attempt to put some space between helicopter and terrain
• It then descended and crashed into the hillside at about 1,400 feet, according to data from Flightradar24
• Bryant 41, and his 13-year-old daughter, Gianna, were both killed in crash along with John Altobelli, 56, his wife, Keri, and daughter, Alyssa, who played on the same basketball team as Bryant's daughter
• Costa Mesa Mayor Katrina Foley tweeted that Christina Mauser, a girls basketball coach, also died in crash
• The NBA legend's helicopter was only 17 miles from the Mamba Sports Academy when the crash occurred
• It's unclear where pilot was going to land in Thousand Oaks, but the nearest helipad to the 100,000-square-foot facility is at Amgen headquarters which is a little over six miles away from Mamba Sports Academy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...illing-Kobe-8-circled-15-minutes-Burbank.html

 

[noknobs]

In Kobe's case he was a rapist who got away with it.

Regardless of how you feel about someone, there is still the phrase "innocent until proven guilty". Until then it's just an allegation and the accuser in this case I'm sure got a huge payday. It's unfair of any of us to state as fact that he did this.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

I keep hearing people say that the NBA should retire Kobe's number leaguewide. That just seems super excessive to me. Am I alone here?

Number retiring is silly anyhow and will eventually result in three digit numbers. I think that is one of the few things NASCAR does correctly.

 

[hoopsjock]

Kobe Bryant's helicopter pilot was given 'special clearance to fly at or below 2,500 feet in dangerous weather conditions' - relying only on his eyesight rather than instruments before the crash

• The helicopter carrying Bryant and his daughter, Gianna, left Santa Ana in Orange County shortly after 9am
• Conditions were not suitable for flying, according to Los Angeles police who grounded their own choppers
• Pilot was flying under visual flight rules (VFR), meaning he was relying on his ability to see terrain below him
• Around 9.20am, the helicopter circled for about 15 minutes east of Interstate-5, near Glendale, data shows
• Air traffic controllers held up the chopper for other aircraft for 11 minutes, before clearing it through Burbank
• The pilot, who was named as Ara Zobayan, could've contacted ATC and requested to switch to instrument flight rules (IFR), which would have allowed him to navigate through the clouds
• But when pilots fly under IFR, it can be time-consuming, especially in Southern California's busy airspace
• Aircraft continued under VFR and around 9.40am it turned west to follow US Route 101, the Ventura Highway
• Around 9.44am, the helicopter turned toward the southeast and climbed to more than 2,000 feet, in what appeared to be an attempt to put some space between helicopter and terrain
• It then descended and crashed into the hillside at about 1,400 feet, according to data from Flightradar24
• Bryant 41, and his 13-year-old daughter, Gianna, were both killed in crash along with John Altobelli, 56, his wife, Keri, and daughter, Alyssa, who played on the same basketball team as Bryant's daughter
• Costa Mesa Mayor Katrina Foley tweeted that Christina Mauser, a girls basketball coach, also died in crash
• The NBA legend's helicopter was only 17 miles from the Mamba Sports Academy when the crash occurred
• It's unclear where pilot was going to land in Thousand Oaks, but the nearest helipad to the 100,000-square-foot facility is at Amgen headquarters which is a little over six miles away from Mamba Sports Academy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...illing-Kobe-8-circled-15-minutes-Burbank.html

As the case with a lot of accidents, it sounds like this one could've been preventable.

 

[Bob Dobalina]

a couple of hrs, if that, after the news, washington post reporter felt the need to repost this nearly 3yr old story to twitter......


she's getting absolutely rekt in the comments

she followed up with

"Well, THAT was eye-opening. To the 10,000 people (literally) who have commented and emailed me with abuse and death threats, please take a moment and read the story — which was written 3+ years ago, and not by me. Any public figure is worth remembering in their totality even if that public figure is beloved and that totality unsettling. That folks are responding with rage & threats toward me (someone who didn’t even write the piece but found it well-reported) speaks volumes about the pressure people come under to stay silent in these cases. "

"why do they hate us?" - media

Sounds like she's been suspended.

 

[Eastoff]

No matter how much you dislike Kobe, consider this: it's very likely that his last thought in life was that his child was going to die and he couldn't do anything about it. As a father, I find that heartbreaking!

This thought has grounded so much of my dystopian day dreams.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Sounds like she's been suspended.

So she tweeted a story about a factual event and got suspended?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I keep hearing people say that the NBA should retire Kobe's number leaguewide. That just seems super excessive to me. Am I alone here?

Qyntel Woods would be honored to have his number retired!

 

[calvin natt]

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Qyntel Woods would be honored to have his number retired!

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Chris Dudley--the Blazer who should have been governor.

 

[BlayZa]

in other news, capitalisation also began yesterday on ebay

as some of you may know, i collect damon stoudamire cards n whatnot, there is a co-signers card with damon/kobe autos, it usually would be listed at anywhere from 150-180 maybe, today tho..... brand new listings @ 700-800

 

[Bob Dobalina]

So she tweeted a story about a factual event and got suspended?

Apparently.