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...lol...ain't your pal either...and now you're stipulating that it's only "rampant" in certain age groups?

The people you claim that were doing it in 2003 are now relatively "old".
 
...lol...ain't your pal either...and now you're stipulating that it's only "rampant" in certain age groups?

The people you claim that were doing it in 2003 are now relatively "old".
It was certainly on campus, friend. Don't know what to tell you. Go do your own research for once. I told you about google a time or two.

Once you go on one of those websites, you will see how many heathens there are. Problem solved!
 
It was certainly on campus, friend. Don't know what to tell you. Go do your own research for once. I told you about google a time or two.

Once you go on one of those websites, you will see how many heathens there are. Problem solved!

Sorry, but you made the claim so the onus is on you to provide proof.

But be advised, googling is a 2 way street. You provide a link to support you assertion that choking during sex was and is "rampant", and I'll conversely provide a different one.

Okey dokey?
 
Sorry, but you made the claim so the onus is on you to provide proof.

But be advised, googling is a 2 way street. You provide a link to support you assertion that choking during sex was and is "rampant", and I'll conversely provide a different one.

Okey dokey?
Lol. I can walk you through it if you need. My grandpa calls me all the time when he has technical difficulties so I am used to it.

I made a statement, based on experiences that happened when I was in college, younger, permiscuous. My friends had similar experiences. You can disprove it if you'd like. I know it is probably hard for you to realize the world is full of sexual deviants.

It took me two seconds to find an article talking about rising strangulation deaths on accident during sex. Just think of how many people do it but don't die.

Have fun with this article. Hope you learn a thing or two.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...l/25/fatal-hateful-rise-of-choking-during-sex
 
Lol. I can walk you through it if you need. My grandpa calls me all the time when he has technical difficulties so I am used to it.

I made a statement, based on experiences that happened when I was in college, younger, permiscuous. My friends had similar experiences. You can disprove it if you'd like. I know it is probably hard for you to realize the world is full of sexual deviants.

It took me two seconds to find an article talking about rising strangulation deaths on accident during sex. Just think of how many people do it but don't die.

Have fun with this article. Hope you learn a thing or two.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...l/25/fatal-hateful-rise-of-choking-during-sex

Lol... you keep changing the goal post. I already acknowledged that there are some who are into that sort of thing. My only issue was with you claiming it is "rampant" and was also rampant in 2003.

And it seems you didn't even bother to actually read and digest the obscure link/reference you posted.

It's essentially highlights a guy who chokes his wife to death during sex and is charged with murder, found guilty, and sentenced to 17 years in prison.


Sorry, but a couple of isolated instances of freaky sex gone bad does not equate to "rampant".
 
Lol... you keep changing the goal post. I already acknowledged that there are some who are into that sort of thing. My only issue was with you claiming it is "rampant" and was also rampant in 2003.

And it seems you didn't even bother to actually read and digest the obscure link/reference you posted.

It's essentially highlights a guy who chokes his wife to death during sex and is charged with murder, found guilty, and sentenced to 17 years in prison.


Sorry, but a couple of isolated instances of freaky sex gone bad does not equate to "rampant".
Did you not read the article?

How did strangulation become so widespread? Autoerotic asphyxia – when someone restricts oxygen to their own brain for the purposes of arousal – isn’t new: there have been documented cases since the early 17th century. But, historically, it has been “niche” and an overwhelmingly male pastime. And the serious risks it has always carried can be seen in the two high-profile examples of the deaths of the MP Stephen Milligan and the actor David Carradine.

Now, though, it is women being choked – Mackenzie hasn’t found a single case of a man killed by a woman in an alleged “sex game gone wrong”. And sex surveys, advice forums, social media feeds and women’s magazines showthe way the practice has become mainstream. “If blindfolds and role play have veered into vanilla territory, there are still plenty of sex moves … like choking,” suggests Women’s Health. “Breath play, the risque new sex practice gripping millennials,” offers Flare. On elitedaily.com, one sex educator was quoted as saying anyone stuck in a sex rut could read up on “how to choke your partner safely”.

Gail Dines, the feminist thinker and CEO of Culture Reframed, believes strangulation has been normalised via two main routes. “For the men, it’s pornography and for the women, it’s in women’s magazines,” she says. “And both of these media genres legitimise it as a form of ‘play’.” She describes choking as a “number one standard act” on porn sites and says women look to porn to “see what men want and they see choking”.

The link between strangulation and porn was made almost 20 years ago

The article does say it is a niche, and you keep hanging onto the word rampant. It was rampant when I was going to school. Let me go interview the girls that attended back in the day and get right back to you.

I don't know what to tell you bruh. We must be heathens out here on the west coast.

Again, you can go look at any of the bdsm websites to educate yourself.
 
Did you not read the article?



The article does say it is a niche, and you keep hanging onto the word rampant. It was rampant when I was going to school. Let me go interview the girls that attended back in the day and get right back to you.

I don't know what to tell you bruh. We must be heathens out here on the west coast.

Again, you can go look at any of the bdsm websites to educate yourself.

Look, you're the one who wrongly used the word "rampant" to describe the supposed multitudes of people who are into choking each other during sex.

Do you not grasp the difference between "niche" and "rampant"?

And now you're referencing bdsm websites as the barometer for your false claim?...please.
 
Look, you're the one who wrongly used the word "rampant" to describe the supposed multitudes of people who are into choking each other during sex.

Do you not grasp the difference between "niche" and "rampant"?

And now you're referencing bdsm websites as the barometer for your false claim?...please.
Does the article not say how mainstream choking is now?

How would one show you wise one that girls back in 2003 asked to be choked? It was rampant on campus and among millenials. The article even mentions how widespread it has become among millenials. I am a millenial. Are you?
 
Does the article not say how mainstream choking is now?

How would one show you wise one that girls back in 2003 asked to be choked? It was rampant on campus and among millenials. The article even mentions how widespread it has become among millenial. I am a millenial. Are you?

That's the second time you've referenced age...why is that, what bearing does it have?

lmao...You mean "millennial"?...I would think that if you claim to be something, you should at least know how to spell it.
 
That's the second time you've referenced age...why is that, what bearing does it have?

lmao...You mean "millennial"?...I would think that if you claim to be something, you should at least know how to spell it.
Ok boomer.

The bearing that it is, is that it obviously was not mainstream for older generations. It was, and has been for my age group.

Oh no! The grammar police. Typing on one of those newfangled phone devices the kids use a word was misspelled. My God almighty. The horror.
 
Ok boomer.

The bearing that it is, is that it obviously was not mainstream for older generations. It was, and has been for my age group.

Oh no! The grammar police. Typing on one of those newfangled phone devices the kids use a word was misspelled. My God almighty. The horror.

Well, if you're going to be arrogant, it helps to also be accurate.

BTW, your sphincter-tightening link/article also says;

“Face slapping, choking, gagging and spitting has become the alpha and omega of any porn scene and not within a BDSM context,” she says. “These are presented as standard ways to have sex when, in fact, they are niches.”

Don't you just hate it when that happens?...you know, when your own evidence comes back to "strangle" you?
 
Well, if you're going to be arrogant, it helps to also be accurate.

BTW, your sphincter-tightening link/article also says;

“Face slapping, choking, gagging and spitting has become the alpha and omega of any porn scene and not within a BDSM context,” she says. “These are presented as standard ways to have sex when, in fact, they are niches.”

Don't you just hate it when that happens?...you know, when your own evidence comes back to "strangle" you?
Lol, referencing something I already pointed out to you. High five!

When did arrogance come into play? You ok, bro?

It also infers it is mainstream amongst millennials (thanks bro for the tip!)

Don't you hate it when the internet can contradict itself and people have differing opinions in the same article? Or is this your first time on the interwebs?
 
My goodness, among other terms like "arrogance", you also really need to learn the difference between "standard" and "niche".

And no, this is by no means my first time.


All better now?
 
My goodness, among other terms, you really need to learn the difference between "standard" and "niche".

And no, this is by no means my first time.


All better now?
Thanks for the lesson. I'll just pick myself up by the bootstraps now to make you proud, friend.
 
Lol. I can walk you through it if you need. My grandpa calls me all the time when he has technical difficulties so I am used to it.

I made a statement, based on experiences that happened when I was in college, younger, permiscuous. My friends had similar experiences. You can disprove it if you'd like. I know it is probably hard for you to realize the world is full of sexual deviants.

It took me two seconds to find an article talking about rising strangulation deaths on accident during sex. Just think of how many people do it but don't die.

Have fun with this article. Hope you learn a thing or two.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...l/25/fatal-hateful-rise-of-choking-during-sex

All I know is I wanna hang out with SkyPokerCat!
 
Oh Lanny. That is pretty common place nowadays. The disntinction is that if it was not consensual, obviously bad. But if it is consensual, that happens all the time nowadays. Being choked or being the choker is a common kink.

There are even people out there who like consensual nonconsensual sex. Where they role play getting raped.

Not trying to downplay the Kobe incident. Just saying, it isn't sick.
It may not be sick to you but it's very sick to me. I always find people who enjoy inflicting pain on others to be sick. I can't see any logical reason for that conclusion to ever change.
Is it typical to find people who enjoy being the victims of pain? I certainly hope not. That's why we have laws.
 
Sadly, I did read your post, hence my reply. Whether you read mine or not is of no import to me.

Cool. I'm glad we can agree on domestic. I'm not for import either.

Oh. And my post wasn't about whether he did it or how he did it. It was the fact that his wife and the accuser both forgave him. The two most affected by the alleged crime have forgiven him. Yet you and some others hold onto some higher moral ground that supersedes the victims. Let Kobe rest. If his victims can, why cant you?
 
Cool. I'm glad we can agree on domestic. I'm not for import either.

Oh. And my post wasn't about whether he did it or how he did it. It was the fact that his wife and the accuser both forgave him. The two most affected by the alleged crime have forgiven him. Yet you and some others hold onto some higher moral ground that supersedes the victims. Let Kobe rest. If his victims can, why cant you?
His victim never forgave him she just refused to testify against him, there was a large settlement involved. Cash is king.
His wife forgave him but of course she got a one Million dollar ring out of the deal and got to include herself in Kobe's $650 Million dollar estate which she has now inherited.
Bill Clinton's wife forgave him for consensual sex that had nothing to do with rape yet his accusers continue to harass him today for comparison.
 
You have the memories of his prior sexual adventures rather than his real time family loyalty.
 
As far as I'm concerned, Kobe Bryant was a great basketball player, seemed like a decent person in terms of his public-facing, off-court persona but the rape allegation along with the sketchiness of the facts of the case hints that there's at least the possibility of some real darkness underneath. I'm not prepared to call him a rapist, but I'm far from certain that it didn't happen.
 

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