Koufos, GREENE, Gallinari Impress in Workouts

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetsDaily)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Nets biggest workout so far ended with the Nets impressed with several players. Reading between the lines, Kosta Koufos, Donte Greene and Danilo Gallinari seemed the most impressive. Gallinari, who is rumored to favor the Nets and Knicks, said of the state where 17.6% of the population is of Italian heritage: “I like New Jersey”. He said he had no real preference. On hand: a long-time fan who shared his opinions.</div>

A Fan's Impressions - Clint88 - NetsDaily Blog

Draft Profile: Danilo Gallinari - - New Jersey Nets

Draft Profile: Kosta Koufos - - New Jersey Nets

Draft Profile: Donte Greene - - New Jersey Nets

Draft Profile: J.J. Hickson - - New Jersey Nets

Draft Profile: Anthony Randolph - - New Jersey Nets

Draft Profile: Ramel Bradley - - New Jersey Nets

Draft Profile: Antoine Aguido - - New Jersey Nets

More Workouts and Other Stuff - Fred Kerber - New York Post Nets Blog

Haha, Greene smacked Randolph! Stripped him like 6 times I think it said. And he shot the lights out! Crazy.

 

[J-HoAgZ]

I know you're a Syracuse fan but I thought you didn't like Greene? Maybe I'm thinking of something else?

I also read that Hickson did very well also. #10 Green #21 Hickson?

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Jun 12 2008, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know you're a Syracuse fan but I thought you didn't like Greene? Maybe I'm thinking of something else?

I also read that Hickson did very well also. #10 Greene #21 Hickson?</div>

I support Greene, and I think he's a good, talented player...but I want him nowhere near this team.

I just don't think it would work out. His skill set, attitude, and ...effort(?) would be bad with this team and its coaches.

I want him on a different team, where he could succeed, and where they could actually use him. One team BJM opened me up to was the Warriors. That'd be too perfect of a situation for him.

BTW, it's GreenE with an "e" at the end

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

He spelled it right the first time, don't be a douche

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ Jun 12 2008, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He spelled it right the first time, don't be a douche

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Yeah, I noticed. NetIncome likes to spell it wrong tho, and that Clint88 guy (1st link) spells it wrong about 50 times

 

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D'Alesandro posted an interesting idea in his blog. Nets pass on Gallinari at #10 and take him at #21 because no one else will take the risk of him staying in Europe.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 12 2008, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>D'Alesandro posted an interesting idea in his blog. Nets pass on Gallinari at #10 and take him at #21 because no one else will take the risk of him staying in Europe.</div>

Wouldn't want that to backfire, though. Chances are a team 11-20 will take him, and hold him hostage for the Nets to trade them their #10 pick...or something like that.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 12 2008, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 12 2008, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>D'Alesandro posted an interesting idea in his blog. Nets pass on Gallinari at #10 and take him at #21 because no one else will take the risk of him staying in Europe.</div>

Wouldn't want that to backfire, though. Chances are a team 11-20 will take him, and hold him hostage for the Nets to trade them their #10 pick...or something like that.
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Could, but Nets wouldn't be hostage to anything. They'd be the ones sitting on a wasted 1st round pick in a deep draft. Not like we still couldn't get a quality player at #21.

 

[J.S]

I dunno, I really feel that Koufos had the nets brass at hello, and given Nenads decline and the usual predisposition for 7 ft foreign centers, I would be psyched if we picked him up. then Nenad is tradable/expendable.

and passing on Douglas-Roberts is just dumb.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jun 12 2008, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dunno, I really feel that Koufos had the nets brass at hello, and given Nenads decline and the usual predisposition for 7 ft foreign centers, I would be psyched if we picked him up. then Nenad is tradable/expendable.

and passing on Douglas-Roberts is just dumb.</div>
What leads you to say that? I haven't seen any feedback from Nets brass on him. Did I miss an article or blog?

 

[logik15]

since galinari made the "groundrules" that only the nets or knicks can take him... then i say draft randolph at 10, CDR at 21, and galinari at 40 LOL

 

[J.S]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 12 2008, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jun 12 2008, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dunno, I really feel that Koufos had the nets brass at hello, and given Nenads decline and the usual predisposition for 7 ft foreign centers, I would be psyched if we picked him up. then Nenad is tradable/expendable.

and passing on Douglas-Roberts is just dumb.</div>
What leads you to say that? I haven't seen any feedback from Nets brass on him. Did I miss an article or blog?
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There was a blog article on nets daily that was removed, it was written by a season ticket holder that was invited to watch the workouts.
it reviewed all the prospects today and it basically said that Koufos was the stand out today and recieved attention from L.Frank and other nets brass.
there was something about a shooting drill in which Koufos recorded 34/40.

I sort of wonder why it's not there any longer.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jun 12 2008, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 12 2008, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jun 12 2008, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dunno, I really feel that Koufos had the nets brass at hello, and given Nenads decline and the usual predisposition for 7 ft foreign centers, I would be psyched if we picked him up. then Nenad is tradable/expendable.

and passing on Douglas-Roberts is just dumb.</div>
What leads you to say that? I haven't seen any feedback from Nets brass on him. Did I miss an article or blog?
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There was a blog article on nets daily that was removed, it was written by a season ticket holder that was invited to watch the workouts.
it reviewed all the prospects today and it basically said that Koufos was the stand out today and recieved attention from L.Frank and other nets brass.
there was something about a shooting drill in which Koufos recorded 34/40.

I sort of wonder why it's not there any longer.
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Same, I read the whole thing.

 

[NOMAM]

Gallinari at 40 in the second round?

That would be awesome.

The Nets have a 3-4M trade exception right?

What if Gallinari lets it be known he will only go to the Nets or go back to Europe, scaring off other teams from picking him.

And then the Nets pick him up in the 2nd round at 40 and then use the 3-4 million trade exception to sign him?

Can a Trade Exception be used to sign a 2nd round pick to a contract?

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

At 40? Psht. Undrafted Free Agent, baby!

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Jun 13 2008, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Gallinari at 40 in the second round?

That would be awesome.

The Nets have a 3-4M trade exception right?

What if Gallinari lets it be known he will only go to the Nets or go back to Europe, scaring off other teams from picking him.

And then the Nets pick him up in the 2nd round at 40 and then use the 3-4 million trade exception to sign him?

Can a Trade Exception be used to sign a 2nd round pick to a contract?</div>

What would prevent us from just signing him outright?

 

[Kid Chocolate]

You can't use a trade exception to sign a player. It can only be used to acquire players from other teams.

Per Mr. Larry Coon:

There are some common misconceptions about non-simultaneous trades. For one, teams cannot use a Traded Player exception to sign free agents; it can be used only to acquire existing contracts from other teams. For another, teams cannot combine a Traded Player exception with other exceptions (such as the Mid-Level exception or the 125% plus $100,000 margin from another trade) in order to trade for a more expensive player. For example, a team with a $1 million Traded Player exception cannot combine it with their $2 million player to trade for a $3 million player (see question number 72 for more information on combining exceptions).

 

[NOMAM]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 12 2008, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You can't use a trade exception to sign a player. It can only be used to acquire players from other teams.

Per Mr. Larry Coon:

There are some common misconceptions about non-simultaneous trades. For one, teams cannot use a Traded Player exception to sign free agents; it can be used only to acquire existing contracts from other teams. For another, teams cannot combine a Traded Player exception with other exceptions (such as the Mid-Level exception or the 125% plus $100,000 margin from another trade) in order to trade for a more expensive player. For example, a team with a $1 million Traded Player exception cannot combine it with their $2 million player to trade for a $3 million player (see question number 72 for more information on combining exceptions).</div>

Ah, thanks.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>At 40? Psht. Undrafted Free Agent, baby!</div>

#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan and GMJigga suggested something else. Does Gallinari have to enter the NBA through the draft? Couldn't the Nets just sign him outright with their MLE through free agency. I don't think Jorge Garbojosa ever entered his name in the draft but came into the NBA as a free agent. Whats the rule here?

Also, what would be the maximum the Nets could sign Gallinari as a second round pick anyways?

 

[Cmoney707]

1. why are we even talking about Gallinari being around after the 10th pick?

2. there's a good chance gallinari isn't there at 10.

3. why in the hell would he take his name out of the nba draft just to be signed?
he would be losing out on millions of dollars. The point of him coming here is to make money as he can make the money of a second rounder or UFA in Europe.

 

[Universe]

Take Dan at 21. Nobody wants the mess that Yi created with the Bucks last year.

On a side note, Sean gained five pounds!

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Jun 13 2008, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. why are we even talking about Gallinari being around after the 10th pick?

2. there's a good chance gallinari isn't there at 10.

3. why in the hell would he take his name out of the nba draft just to be signed?
he would be losing out on millions of dollars. The point of him coming here is to make money as he can make the money of a second rounder or UFA in Europe.</div>

1. Word is that he wants to go to either Knicks or Nets. Teams will most likely pass on him if they believe he'll be staying in Italy...unless he gets traded to the Nets.

2. That's all up to the Knicks. Or whatever other team(s) he may have approved of.

3. He could make millions more quicker by being signed outright, instead of having to be signed to a rookie contract. He'll actually get to choose how much money he gets (through negotiating with the Nets, of course).

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

This emotional high is going to be so dead when he'd drafted at 6.

 

[Cmoney707]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 13 2008, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Jun 13 2008, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. why are we even talking about Gallinari being around after the 10th pick?

2. there's a good chance gallinari isn't there at 10.

3. why in the hell would he take his name out of the nba draft just to be signed?
he would be losing out on millions of dollars. The point of him coming here is to make money as he can make the money of a second rounder or UFA in Europe.</div>

1. Word is that he wants to go to either Knicks or Nets. Teams will most likely pass on him if they believe he'll be staying in Italy...unless he gets traded to the Nets.

2. That's all up to the Knicks. Or whatever other team(s) he may have approved of.

3. He could make millions more quicker by being signed outright, instead of having to be signed to a rookie contract. He'll actually get to choose how much money he gets (through negotiating with the Nets, of course).
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I understand all of that, but all we've heard about this is that he would like to stay in the New York New Jersey area. But there was someone like Yi last year demanding that he be drafted in a highly Asian populated area or else there was no chance he would be coming to the NBA. Well the Bucks took him anyway and he came.

I'm pretty sure if the Nets passed on him at 10 teams wouldn't be scared of him saying where he would like to play. So I don't understand what all the commotion is about.

 

[danxcr]

if Gallinari was available at the 10 spot... there is no way the nets pass up on him, hes worth the risk at the 10 pick, and kiki and rod are in love with players that understand how to play the sport... its not bout the flash of the person (dunks and put backs) but its solid fundamental players they go after.

and like what someone else said, lawrence frank plays guys with high IQ... why do you think jason collins got so many freaking minutes

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jun 13 2008, 04:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if Gallinari was available at the 10 spot... there is no way the nets pass up on him, hes worth the risk at the 10 pick, and kiki and rod are in love with players that understand how to play the sport... its not bout the flash of the person (dunks and put backs) but its solid fundamental players they go after.

and like what someone else said, lawrence frank plays guys with high IQ... why do you think jason collins got so many freaking minutes

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Have you seen a Gallinari highlight vid tho? He gets mad alley-oops and dunks!

 

[Chutney]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 12 2008, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>D'Alesandro posted an interesting idea in his blog. Nets pass on Gallinari at #10 and take him at #21 because no one else will take the risk of him staying in Europe.</div>
I don't think he'd object to playing in Toronto. We're like Euro-heaven.

 

[Kid Chocolate]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Jun 13 2008, 01:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 12 2008, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You can't use a trade exception to sign a player. It can only be used to acquire players from other teams.

Per Mr. Larry Coon:

There are some common misconceptions about non-simultaneous trades. For one, teams cannot use a Traded Player exception to sign free agents; it can be used only to acquire existing contracts from other teams. For another, teams cannot combine a Traded Player exception with other exceptions (such as the Mid-Level exception or the 125% plus $100,000 margin from another trade) in order to trade for a more expensive player. For example, a team with a $1 million Traded Player exception cannot combine it with their $2 million player to trade for a $3 million player (see question number 72 for more information on combining exceptions).</div>

Ah, thanks.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>At 40? Psht. Undrafted Free Agent, baby!</div>

#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan and GMJigga suggested something else. Does Gallinari have to enter the NBA through the draft? Couldn't the Nets just sign him outright with their MLE through free agency. I don't think Jorge Garbojosa ever entered his name in the draft but came into the NBA as a free agent. Whats the rule here?

Also, what would be the maximum the Nets could sign Gallinari as a second round pick anyways?
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I believe once you are 22 you are automatically entered into the draft. After that you are fair game for Free Agency.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Jun 13 2008, 01:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I understand all of that, but all we've heard about this is that he would like to stay in the New York New Jersey area. But there was someone like Yi last year demanding that he be drafted in a highly Asian populated area or else there was no chance he would be coming to the NBA. Well the Bucks took him anyway and he came.

I'm pretty sure if the Nets passed on him at 10 teams wouldn't be scared of him saying where he would like to play. So I don't understand what all the commotion is about.</div>
He could sign for a huge contract in Italy... already on the table. It's not all about money. He wants the right situation too.

If I have a mid 1st round pick in a deep draft I wouldn't waste it on a player that may not even come play for me.



I'm waiting for the day that an agent goes and gets an offer from a big European team for his US college player and uses that offer to dictate where his client wants to go in the draft.

 

[NOMAM]

http://www.contracostatimes.com/warriors/c...?nclick_check=1

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Some of the top international players may fall into the second round. The rookie salary scale applies only to first-round picks. Contracts for second-round picks are negotiated. NBA teams can even use their midlevel exception ($5.3 million last season) to sign a second-rounder.</div>

Ok, What if the Nets can get Gallinari to scare off all the other teams by threating to stay in Europe and he falls all they way down to the 40th pick in the 2nd round. Then the Nets could use part of their MLE or maybe their LLE to sign? If he were picked 10th by the Nets he would make around 2.1 million. There is also the LLE right? That should around under 2 million? Or sign him with the MLE for around 3 million for his role in scaring off the other teams?

The Knicks don't have a 2nd round pick this year. But they could always buy one before the Nets could pick in the 2nd round.

It's kind of a far out plan but come on Kiki and Thorn, be creative! Make Gallinari unappealing to other teams so he falls to the Nets.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Jun 13 2008, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>http://www.contracostatimes.com/warriors/c...?nclick_check=1

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Some of the top international players may fall into the second round. The rookie salary scale applies only to first-round picks. Contracts for second-round picks are negotiated. NBA teams can even use their midlevel exception ($5.3 million last season) to sign a second-rounder.</div>

Ok, What if the Nets can get Gallinari to scare off all the other teams by threating to stay in Europe and he falls all they way down to the 40th pick in the 2nd round. Then the Nets could use part of their MLE or maybe their LLE to sign? If he were picked 10th by the Nets he would make around 2.1 million. There is also the LLE right? That should around under 2 million? Or sign him with the MLE for around 3 million for his role in scaring off the other teams?

The Knicks don't have a 2nd round pick this year. But they could always buy one before the Nets could pick in the 2nd round.

It's kind of a far out plan but come on Kiki and Thorn, be creative! Make Gallinari unappealing to other teams so he falls to the Nets.
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I rather take him with the 21st pick and be forced to pay him rookie scale. Save the MLE for established free agent(s). We actually have room to spend some money now that Kidd is off the books.