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jlprk said:
He does nothing to dissuade his worshippers when they give him all the credit. He doesn't humbly spread the praise around. A real turn-off.
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Look. Everyone knows you have a hard on for the guy so anything you say (write) is actually rendered meaningless Mrs. Patterson.
 
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it's_GO_time said:
Whatever the situation, the agent didn't do KP any favors.
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Are you this sensitive to representation in your real life?

You speak as someone who has not one clue about what role an agent plays. It's not Pritchard's agent's job to make sure Paul Allen and vulcan are happy. If Allen and his lackeys are that butthurt over Penn's agent protecting his other client, Pritchard, then we have much larger issues to worry about regarding the future of this franchise than who the next GM will be.
 
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Sug said:
He could avoid it by not doing the interview, especially with Canzano who KP knows full well is going to stir the pot. KP's flaw of being an attention whore is problematic. Take the little quote at the end of the interview with Quick where he taunts management about being fired, the guy is smart and he knows that type of line is only going to create more buzz. KP is a good GM, but he is also rather full of himself. A lot of very successful people are egotistical, but you have to know your place on the totem pole. KP seems to think he is higher than he really is.
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Pile

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I wonder why the rest of the front office isn't begging for the credit that goes along with the absolute raping of this club before Pritchard became GM.

Is that why Tweddle Dee and dumb were finally let go? Not enough credit going around on the Miles contract?


This whole "Pritchard is arrogant" "wants all the credit" "Not as high as he thinks he is" :rolleyes: is fucking laughable.

What scale are you mongs using to base this opinion on?

Secondly, I'm interested why anyone would possibly give a fuck if the GM of the team they follow is arrogant or gives out enough credit during radio interviews.
 
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OddEnormous said:
Pile

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I wonder why the rest of the front office isn't begging for the credit that goes along with the absolute raping of this club before Pritchard became GM.

Is that why Tweddle Dee and dumb were finally let go? Not enough credit going around on the Miles contract?


This whole "Pritchard is arrogant" "wants all the credit" "Not as high as he thinks he is" :rolleyes: is fucking laughable.

What scale are you mongs using to base this opinion on?

Secondly, I'm interested why anyone would possibly give a fuck if the GM of the team they follow is arrogant or gives out enough credit during radio interviews.
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culture
 
Sug said:
culture
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The culture has seeming improved since Pritchard took over as GM. Now, people are being fired, yet again.

What is the one constant in this chaotic culture over the past 15 years?

Hint- it's not Pritchard.
 
BGrantFan said:
Are you this sensitive to representation in your real life?

You speak as someone who has not one clue about what role an agent plays. It's not Pritchard's agent's job to make sure Paul Allen and vulcan are happy. If Allen and his lackeys are that butthurt over Penn's agent protecting his other client, Pritchard, then we have much larger issues to worry about regarding the future of this franchise than who the next GM will be.
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What's happened to you?

Nearly every one of your posts are fabtastic these days.

:cool:
 
BGrantFan said:
What is the one constant in this chaotic culture over the past 15 years?

Hint- it's not Pritchard.
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Have you been a fan for 15 years, by any chance?

barfo
 
BGrantFan said:
The culture has seeming improved since Pritchard took over as GM. Now, people are being fired, yet again.

What is the one constant in this chaotic culture over the past 15 years?

Hint- it's not Pritchard.
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Um....Damon Stoudamire?
 
Just Listened to the interview....the most important thing he said

Teams that can make a big trade have these three qualities

1) Players on good contracts
2) Have good players
3) the ability to take on big contracts

check
check
check

im thinking more and more that he could be talking about CP3....just wait and see if another team could make a better offer
 
oldmangrouch said:
What a hideously depressing day. Even Canzano gets it.....and PA and the twerps around him don't.
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I don't know. When it appears that Canzano gets it, that's usually a pretty good signal that things are not as they appear.

barfo
 
barfo said:
I don't know. When it appears that Canzano gets it, that's usually a pretty good signal that things are not as they appear.

barfo
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My thoughts exactly ... there's just something a little "off" in that narrative that I can't quite put my finger (least of which is that Patterson was never a Lagarrie client).
 
So if I understand Canzano right . . . PA has a bad reputation and has a hard time finding GMs to work for him. Yet he was able to sign KP? Canzano says PA got lucky, whatever. That doesn't relect well on KP (that KP somehow didn't know PA's reputation while other GMs did). Also if the job is so bad why is KP fighting like hell to keep this terrible job that no other GMs want?

Canzano praises KP for fighting to keep a job that Cazano thinks is a bad job . . . isn't that what he is writing?

I want KP to stay because I believe he has built a good team while keeping the goal of good character guys . . . which now I think doesn't mean that much to PA. But if history is any indication of the future, the next GM (or KP) will have tons of money to play with, and wouldn't that be a top criteria for many GMs. Heck if anything be like KP and use PA's money to establish a good reputation within the NBA and then go on to a ¨better¨organization.

Buying draft picks, blank checks for resigning players, making deals that do not make financial sense in hopes of winning a championship vs the risk of a owner firing you for personal reasons or being micro-managed . . . most GMs would take that, wouldn't they?
 
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He's right the Blazers will get another GM they can control. I buy one reason they're firing KP is because KP has the balls to not put up with their bullshit. I think it's the main reason, actually.

That said, they'll have trouble finding a GM as good as KP. They'll be taking a step back.

It's really hard to root for a Paul Allen team right now. I'm tired of his shit.
 
I didn't like the Whitsitt firing (at all). I didn't like the Nash hiring (it was obvious he was a retread, and he wasn't even particularly good in his "glory days") and we missed out in 2003 on luring several candidates.

Chris Wallace, who (in spite of a lot of heat on this board) just extended his GMship of the Grizzlies.

Ed Stefanski, who became the Nets' GM during the Blazers' courting of him, and is now the GM/President of the 76ers.

Mark Warkentein, who has had some success with the Nuggets after not getting the Blazers' gig.

RC Buford is still going strong in San Antonio.

John Hammond was thrown out there as a candidate, and he just won the GM of the year award with the Bucks.

My point? The Blazers went after the right people but just couldn't get them in house, and I have to think that it will be easier this time because of the team's improved fortunes and Allen's continued fortune (which is even more impressive now, given the belt-tightening happening around the NBA.

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
I didn't like the Whitsitt firing (at all). I didn't like the Nash hiring (it was obvious he was a retread, and he wasn't even particularly good in his "glory days") and we missed out in 2003 on luring several candidates.

Chris Wallace, who (in spite of a lot of heat on this board) just extended his GMship of the Grizzlies.

Ed Stefanski, who became the Nets' GM during the Blazers' courting of him, and is now the GM/President of the 76ers.

Mark Warkentein, who has had some success with the Nuggets after not getting the Blazers' gig.

RC Buford is still going strong in San Antonio.

John Hammond was thrown out there as a candidate, and he just won the GM of the year award with the Bucks.

My point? The Blazers went after the right people but just couldn't get them in house, and I have to think that it will be easier this time because of the team's improved fortunes and Allen's continued fortune (which is even more impressive now, given the belt-tightening happening around the NBA.

Ed O.
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How do you know that at least some of those names weren't contacted in 2003? Multiple media sources here in Portland made it known that Patterson was not the first person approached for the job he took, and part of him taking the job was that he'd have to fire 90 Blazer employees shortly after taking over.

Nash win a TV broadcaster after having been out of the league. Then, when those two are finally let go, Pritchard was elevated to GM, an offer that he would have been stupid to refuse.


I'm interested to see who we end up with as a GM. Which established GM would want to put up with this type of management, where instead of communicating when there is friction, you are ostracized and left in the dark.

EDIT - just re-read your post and you said that all of these candidates were rumored to be contacted. Where I disagree with you is that the job is less attractive now then it was in 2003 due to how the current GM is being treated.
 
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BGrantFan said:
I'm interested to see who we end up with as a GM. Which established GM would want to put up with this type of management, where instead of communicating when there is friction, you are ostracized and left in the dark...
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Call me crazy, but Warkentien's name comes to mind.
 
ABM said:
Call me crazy, but Warkentien's name comes to mind.
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I don't view Warkentien as an upgrade. His biggest move was Chauncey Billups, but that was after initially making the mistake of trading for Allen Iverson.
 
BGrantFan said:
I don't view Warkentien as an upgrade. His biggest move was Chauncey Billups, but that was after initially making the mistake of trading for Allen Iverson.
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May not be an upgrade, but certainly "established".
 
ABM said:
May not be an upgrade, but certainly "established".
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Not an upgrade and will cost twice as much as Pritchard. Will the new GM have a clause in their contract that will make them mention how awesome Paul Allen is in any media appearance or interview?

"Well yes, trading for LeBron James and Dwight Howard was a good deal for us, considering what we gave up for them and still kept Roy, but man, is Paul Allen the bestest ever or wut?"
 
Ed O said:
Chris Wallace, who (in spite of a lot of heat on this board) just extended his GMship of the Grizzlies.
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As Bill Simmons pointed out, he deserves it - he has just won back-to-back championship rings.
 
Ed O said:
I didn't like the Whitsitt firing (at all). I didn't like the Nash hiring (it was obvious he was a retread, and he wasn't even particularly good in his "glory days") and we missed out in 2003 on luring several candidates.

Chris Wallace, who (in spite of a lot of heat on this board) just extended his GMship of the Grizzlies.

Ed Stefanski, who became the Nets' GM during the Blazers' courting of him, and is now the GM/President of the 76ers.

Mark Warkentein, who has had some success with the Nuggets after not getting the Blazers' gig.

RC Buford is still going strong in San Antonio.

John Hammond was thrown out there as a candidate, and he just won the GM of the year award with the Bucks.

My point? The Blazers went after the right people but just couldn't get them in house, and I have to think that it will be easier this time because of the team's improved fortunes and Allen's continued fortune (which is even more impressive now, given the belt-tightening happening around the NBA.

Ed O.
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This is the debatable thing, and I don't think anything has changed. PA keeps proving he's hard to work for.

Sure, they can find good candidates, as can any team. It's just those good candidates almost never pick Portland.
 
yuyuza1 said:
“with Greg healthy . . . we’re gonna be a tough out for the next 5-6 years.”
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Oh, my Lord. That's about the biggest "if" in the history of "ifs." But if he's actually able to stay healthy, why only the next "5 to 6 years"?
 
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