KP on Canzano
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Is he talking about the player "if only you knew" about?
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-He's in Oakland watching a bunch of prospects
-He doesn't want to reveal much about the player he was baiting Canzano on. "He's a definite NBA player". Said his idea of something great might not be someone else's idea of something great, but he also hinted at capspace. Also mentioned being opportunistic when teams are having financial issues.
-Also mentioned that with the pick, and 2nd round picks "we can improve our team". Doesn't really mean one way or the other. Very generic as KP usually is.
-"Are you willing to trade a popular player to make the team better?"
"Of course."
-Ballpark on capspace "6.5-7 million. we could do a couple more things to get more, but we'll see."
-About getting the team tougher, and the idea of if one guy coming in can make a difference...thinks that the team getting older will help improve, that and mentioned Greg as someone who can be a big help there.
-If LaMarcus is untouchable. "LaMarcus isn't going anywhere. He's part of our foundation. No one is untouchable, like if you could get a LeBron or a Kobe, but LaMarcus isn't going anywhere."
-Harder to pick two guys like LMA and Roy in the same draft, or to make a big move in free agency? Draft day is tough.
-Referencing the Jailblazers era...At what point do you get interested in someone like Ron Artest? "For us to do that, I would have to know it takes us way over the edge in terms of a championship run. Because we're already getting close. Does the player absolutely get us there? Secondarily and probably more importantly, our youth is growing up. Brandon, LaMarcus, Joel, Greg, they're growing up." Talks about how as they grow older they're going to have more of a voice, and saying "When they're able to control that locker room, I'll be willing to take that chance."
-Any chance Greg comes back lighter? "I hope so." Still very confident on Greg. Mentions PER.
-Do you see LeBron staying in Cleveland? "All this 2010 free agency jumping all over the place, I'll believe it when I see it." Thinks some of secondary guys will get moved, but not primary.
-He doesn't want to reveal much about the player he was baiting Canzano on. "He's a definite NBA player". Said his idea of something great might not be someone else's idea of something great, but he also hinted at capspace. Also mentioned being opportunistic when teams are having financial issues.
-Also mentioned that with the pick, and 2nd round picks "we can improve our team". Doesn't really mean one way or the other. Very generic as KP usually is.
-"Are you willing to trade a popular player to make the team better?"
"Of course."
-Ballpark on capspace "6.5-7 million. we could do a couple more things to get more, but we'll see."
-About getting the team tougher, and the idea of if one guy coming in can make a difference...thinks that the team getting older will help improve, that and mentioned Greg as someone who can be a big help there.
-If LaMarcus is untouchable. "LaMarcus isn't going anywhere. He's part of our foundation. No one is untouchable, like if you could get a LeBron or a Kobe, but LaMarcus isn't going anywhere."
-Harder to pick two guys like LMA and Roy in the same draft, or to make a big move in free agency? Draft day is tough.
-Referencing the Jailblazers era...At what point do you get interested in someone like Ron Artest? "For us to do that, I would have to know it takes us way over the edge in terms of a championship run. Because we're already getting close. Does the player absolutely get us there? Secondarily and probably more importantly, our youth is growing up. Brandon, LaMarcus, Joel, Greg, they're growing up." Talks about how as they grow older they're going to have more of a voice, and saying "When they're able to control that locker room, I'll be willing to take that chance."
-Any chance Greg comes back lighter? "I hope so." Still very confident on Greg. Mentions PER.
-Do you see LeBron staying in Cleveland? "All this 2010 free agency jumping all over the place, I'll believe it when I see it." Thinks some of secondary guys will get moved, but not primary.
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That would all describe Ramon Sessions. There are plenty of people who would be unimpressed by Sessions, as a free agent pick-up.
Not me, though. I'd love it.
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I'm not sold on Sessions yet. The kids got definite talent, and he's gonna get better. However, I would feel uncomfortable giving up on Bayless that quick for a not entirely proven young PG.
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thanks for the recap
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How would it be a giving up? Sessions is a free agent. Restricted, but Milwaukee can't afford to match. They're at the luxury tax line, have stated they won't go into the luxury tax and also have Charlie Villanueva as a free agent.
Sessions and Bayless seems like a nice cache of talent. Sessions is already above average, so the chances of mining a star from those two is decent.
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It has to be somebody Canzano would have heard of. I don't think he knows enough about the NBA to have heard of Sessions.
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How did you get that out of the interview? KP just gave a super general answer saying that the person he was talking about was definitely an NBA player; by that definition he could have been talking about Brian Cardinal.
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Isn't it against the CBA to be talking to free-agents right now? Has free agency even started? I'm guessing KP had to be talking to a team or the agent of a draft prospect.
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Can't talk to FA's until July 1. Can't sign them until after the moratorium (usually a week or so...this year it ends July 8).
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1. Nik, you seriously need to put me on your ignore list. You're picking at every post I make.
2. It's not in the interview. Cast your mind back: the original story is Canzano sees KP talking on his 'phone and KP says to Canzano "you won't believe who I was talking about". This implies that KP knows Canzano knows the player he's talking about. Geddit?
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I didn't see anything in the Pritchard quotes that suggests he was talking directly to the player in question. He just said "If only you knew which player we're talking about" as I recall. The blurb LameR gave about Pritchard's comments today could easily describe Sessions. Not that it is Sessions, of course, but it could be.
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True, but why would he be talking about a team regarding Sessions? Call Milwaukee's bluff and sign him to a contract. No need to negotiate with Milwaukee prior to that point as far as I can tell.
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if KP does a S&T with say one of his SFs for a resigned Sessions, he doesn't give up all his wiggle room on capspace.
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Hmm. I'm not sure where you're seeing that he was talking to a team. From my reading of Pritchard's comments, he was teasing Canzano about if only he (Canzano) knew which player they (the Blazers) were discussing internally.
I didn't see a reference to talking to a player, agent or team.
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I still don't think that talking to Milwaukee about a restricted FA makes much sense right now, and it surely doesn't merit a "you won't believe" comment from Pritchard to Canzano.
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I'm not even sure we can assume he meant "is" an nba player, he could have meant "is going to be". A draft pick, in other words.
My vote is the KP was just jerking Canzano's chain, and didn't mean anything at all. He was probably talking about dinner reservations or something.
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So they were internally talking about bringing Magic Johnson back to run the point. I'd actually be surprised at that development. I'm not sure how chatting up Ramon Sessions with Tom Penn would elicit that reaction from KP.
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He apparently also said that "his idea of something great might not be someone else's idea of something great." Which clearly can apply to Sessions, if he likes Sessions. You'd fall into the group that doesn't consider it great.
A prime Magic Johnson would be everyone's idea of great, so I don't really understand your sarcasm. He clearly isn't talking about a superstar that everyone thinks is wonderful.
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If Magic still has game right now, and if only KP knows it and is working him out, it would be a shock to me. Chatting about Ramon Sessions, who 99% of Blazer-related sites know about and somewhat covet, isn't a big deal to me and SHOULD be discussed internally. I'm not expressing a view on Sessions one way or another. It just is within the realm of belief for me that he could be a target.
Short of that, it's a LeBron James or a Kobe Bryant or a Tony Parker that would have me suspend disbelief to even consider.
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Diving in a little deeper into that comment.
Let's turn back the clock to June 2007. KP had brought Ramon Sessions in twice for workouts. Pick #52 rolls up and we are on the clock. KP wants to pick Ramon Sessions and recomends this to Nate, but let's Nate have the pick. Nate takes Taurean Green, while Ramon Sessions goes 4 picks later to Milwaukee.
So could KP possibly be talking about Nate when he says it "might not be somoene elses idea of something great"?
God I hope so.
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And whoever this mystery player is (if, in fact, Pritchard was being serious) would be believable to some, as Pritchard said that the player might not seem great to everyone.
We have "You wouldn't believe this player!" and "What is great to me might not be great to someone else." That basically covers anyone except a clear star/superstar.
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Where did that story come from, I'd never heard that before.
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Well, it's just speculation, but I agree that Sessions isn't exactly a "Man, seriously, if you only knew who I was talking about." kind of guy... because people either would recognize him (and therefore kind of expect it) or they would not (and they would not be excited by him).
Who might it be? Who knows? The quote makes it seem that KP is excited, though, and I doubt Sessions as a free agent is the kind of guy that would get him that excited... even if it would make the team significantly better.
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Who might it be? Who knows? The quote makes it seem that KP is excited, though, and I doubt Sessions as a free agent is the kind of guy that would get him that excited... even if it would make the team significantly better.
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I only pick at the Baron Davis posts when you repeat them twice a week
but seriously, I'm not trying to piss you off or get under your skin.Now that I think about it I realize I may have mis-heard this part of the KP interview this afternoon, I got the impression he was responding to JC's question about needing to add toughness or maybe taking a chance on a guy with a checkered past