KP wrestling with failure - Roy and Aldridge talks stalled

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Fez said:
This isn't how you treat a franchise player. The guy is only 25!

If I were Roy, or in Roy's position, I'd sign for the least years and bail. Go to a team who appreciates what I bring.

4 years, are you fucking kidding me?
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I doubt Roy is as bitter and angry as you.
 
This is much ado about nothing.

The team will get something done with Roy. They might wait to extend Aldridge, based on the abundance of power forwards in the league driving down his contract size, but they'll eventually pay him to stay, too... or have a backup plan in place.

I'm not at all worried.

Ed O.
 
updates from Blazersedge Ben on Twitter:

Breaking... KP: "Brandon and LaMarcus will be here a long time." Negotiations with broy and la are "amicable". "Disappointed" about Hedo.5 minutes ago from UberTwitter

KP: "We could do a lot of things but we love" our guys. Team is looking at Millsap, seen potentially as "best player available"

I think everyone needs to chill out. And stop hating on Twitter.
 
KP acknowledges potential longer-term financial benefit of 4 year deal for Brandon. KP "will not rule out" either 4 or 5 year deal.
 
We could do a lot of things, but "we love our guys"

FUCK I HATE THAT LINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Freshtown said:
updates from Blazersedge Ben on Twitter:

Breaking... KP: "Brandon and LaMarcus will be here a long time." Negotiations with broy and la are "amicable". "Disappointed" about Hedo.5 minutes ago from UberTwitter

KP: "We could do a lot of things but we love" our guys. Team is looking at Millsap, seen potentially as "best player available"

I think everyone needs to chill out. And stop hating on Twitter.
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This.
 
If I hear down the road that we didn't upgrade to Hinrich because KP or Nate wanted to hold on to Outlaw I will not be a happy camper.
 
number 10 said:


seems like Quick got his report mixed up and it's Brandon who wants 4 years, KP wants 5.
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That makes FAR more sense of course.

P.S. this is exactly why I was reserving Judgement. I'm sure Quick is a decent guy but this is not the first article of his that seemed to :stirthepot:
 
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number 10 said:


seems like Quick got his report mixed up and it's Brandon who wants 4 years, KP wants 5.
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NO WAY!!!!! That would mean that Quick is the idiot, and KP is just doing his job.

It would also mean a lot of people on this forum have embarrassed themselves.
 
oldguy said:
NO WAY!!!!! That would mean that Quick is the idiot, and KP is just doing his job.

It would also mean a lot of people on this forum have embarrassed themselves.
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Those people don't really they're embarrassing themselves, that's the problem
 
Can someone explain why it would be more financially beneficial to Brandon to sign a 4 year vs a 5 year deal?
 
talman said:
Can someone explain why it would be more financially beneficial to Brandon to sign a 4 year vs a 5 year deal?
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He's eligible for a larger starting salary as a seven year vet in the league, rather than a three year vet.
 
talman said:
Can someone explain why it would be more financially beneficial to Brandon to sign a 4 year vs a 5 year deal?
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With the cap dropping and the max salary tied to a percentage of the cap, a max deal right now is depressed in value. A four year extension allows him to sign a new contract sooner, but hopefully (for him) in a better economic climate and thus a higher cap and higher maximum salary.
 
Wheels just said that KP spoke to the media today, and said he'd have some audio on the whole contract situations and how KP thought it wasn't going the way he wanted it to. So maybe Quick wasn't wrong, but the story was a little exaggerating how bad it was.
 
talman said:
Can someone explain why it would be more financially beneficial to Brandon to sign a 4 year vs a 5 year deal?
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i think because with a 4 year deal with a player option for the 4th year means that after 3 years, he could get a new max contract that could be worth more money due to the number of years he's been in the league.
 
talman said:
Can someone explain why it would be more financially beneficial to Brandon to sign a 4 year vs a 5 year deal?
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I guess the only risk would be if Brandon got seriously injured, then he'd probably lose out on a max year's worth of money. But when you're as good as he is, you never try to prepare for anything like that.
 
Minstrel said:
With the cap dropping and the max salary tied to a percentage of the cap, a max deal right now is depressed in value. A four year extension allows him to sign a new contract sooner, but hopefully (for him) in a better economic climate and thus a higher cap and higher maximum salary.
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Ah got it---thanks Minstrel. Didn't realize max salary was tied to a percentage of the cap. I thought an individuals max salary was scaled based on their previous salary.
 
talman said:
Ah got it---thanks Minstrel. Didn't realize max salary was tied to a percentage of the cap. I thought an individuals max salary was scaled based on their previous salary.
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It's the same thing that LeBron, Carmelo, and Wade (or their agents) all did for their extensions.
 
Minstrel said:
It wasn't false. You're saying that previous moves could have created more space, but that's always true. Based on their salary structure at the time free agency began, they offered the most possible.

This is a worthwhile distinction because you're conflating two different things: Pritchard's choice to retain Blake and Outlaw and his "ability to negotiate" with free agents. If you don't like his choice to retain Outlaw, fine. But that has nothing to do with whether he knows how to "deal with free agents." He offered as much as he could (which takes into account all past moves) which was already an overpay, rolled out the red carpet and Turk still chose to go elsewhere. This doesn't, in any way, suggest to me that Pritchard failed in some meaningful way when it came to trying to sign Turkoglu. It suggests that free agency is unpredictable because you can't control the choices of the free agents themselves.
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Did I say it had anything to do with dealing with free agents?

Nope.

Did I say KP failed because of it?

Nope. You are reading this particular post in light of others I have posted. However, I have since tried to refrain from posting blindly negative things about this off season. This posting was not negative. It was just pointing out that Portland had a chance to have around 15 million under the cap instead of 7.5.

What I did say was it was possible for Portland to have had more money under the cap for free agents then they ended up with. Is this in any way false?
 
talman said:
Ah got it---thanks Minstrel. Didn't realize max salary was tied to a percentage of the cap. I thought an individuals max salary was scaled based on their previous salary.
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http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q11

number 11 talks about max salaries. the max for 6 or fewer years in the league is only 25% of the cap while the max for 7 years in the league is 30% of the cap. given himself the opportunity to opt out when he's eligible for a higher max makes him more money.
 
This tweet from blazersedge sounds good.

Breaking... KP: "Brandon and LaMarcus will be here a long time." Negotiations with broy and la are "amicable". "Disappointed" about Hedo.
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Sidenote - I've always been amazed at the level of bi-polar impulsiveness that several posters display, but I've got to say reading this thread brings it to a whole new level. KP has done a great job in Portland, and to act like this over something so insignificant, to even think that Pritchard doesn't want to sign Roy longterm, is unbelievable to me. How can you people honestly believe that Pritchard is that stupid? It would be like a nascar driver forgetting to turn left.

As an example of the level of journalism we're constantly subjected to, here's the latest twitter.

Breaking: Jerryd "I haven't worked out with Greg at all this summer, I don't know where that's coming from"
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It's probably best to just not believe anything you read, it will save you years of your life by not freaking out so much.
 
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