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The Nets decided to retain Krstic’s rights when he signed with Triumph Moscow this summer for a reason. They didn’t have to but decided to carry Krstic’s $2.7 million qualifying offer on their salary cap. If an NBA team wanted him, they didn’t want to lose him for nothing. They had invested a lot in him, just as they had with KMart.

They could ask for a number of things in return. For example, they could arrange a sign-and-trade for OKC’s second round pick. An OKC second round pick will be the 31st pick and with only a minimal amounts of smarts could be a better than a late first round pick, since teams don’t have to be commit to a two-year contract. And the Nets don’t have a second rounder this season. (There are some indications the Thunder might owe the pick to the Suns, however.)
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And then later:

Beyond a pick (and/or a trade exception) there are some players on the Thunder who might be appealing to the Nets: Earl Watson; Chris Wilcox–still only 26 and who the Nets coveted for years; Joe Smith; Johan Petro. Smith, Wilcox and Petro have expiring contracts, Watson has two years left.
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http://www.netsdaily.com/blog/?p=579 My emphasis.

Anyone else think Joe Smith starting at the 4 might actually turn us from a borderline playoff team (7-8ish) to a safe one (4-5ish)? Presti's no fool, but we still might be able to pawn off Sean Williams on him with Krstic for Joe Smith.
 
I hope they get something for Krstic and not lose him for nothing. I wouldn't even mind having him back.

I posted this in another thread but what do you guys think of these moves to boost the Nets to another level in the East?

Nets trade: Bobby Simmons, Stromile Swift, Sean Williams

Raptors trade: Jermaine O'Neal

Raptors save like 10 million after this season and take a chance on Sean Williams.


Nets trade: Yi Jianlian, Trenton Hassell, Mo Ager, 1st round protected pick

Wizards trade: Caron Butler


Nets either match the offer from the Thunder on Krstic or sign and trade him for something.


Lineup:

Harris/Dooling
Carter/Hayes/CDR
Butler/Najera
O'Neal/Anderson
Krstic/Lopez/Boone

I think the Nets still come in under the luxury tax.
 
I don't see that as a realistic trade, NOMAM. Personally though, I think it's just been my "don't want O'neal" train of thought I've had since the Nets may have been intersted in him in the first place.

As a matter of fact, I personally don't want Krstic as a Net, either. A sign and trade would be ideal. Any of the players NI mentioned, I wouldn't mind on the Nets, especially Smith. Krstic, Williams, and (if need be, throw in ) Ager for Watson, Smith, and Petro? Would that work?
 
ly_yng said:
And then later:




http://www.netsdaily.com/blog/?p=579 My emphasis.

Anyone else think Joe Smith starting at the 4 might actually turn us from a borderline playoff team (7-8ish) to a safe one (4-5ish)? Presti's no fool, but we still might be able to pawn off Sean Williams on him with Krstic for Joe Smith.
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You honestly think that Joe Smith, a declining player, averaging 7 and 4.5 is going to start over Yi, a promising prospect, and in turn upgrade the Nets?
 
I wouldn't mind dropping Ager and adding Watson. I love Dooling but you just never know with injuries.
 
I hope they can get something back for him. That second round pick could be good, since as the article said there is a very good chance that it'll be the first pick of the second round.
 
Universe said:
I wouldn't mind dropping Ager and adding Watson. I love Dooling but you just never know with injuries.
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I don't know if they'd want to give him up. They don't have any other PG on the roster...I think they'd be more inclined to move one of their bigs first, especially since they are bringing another one in with Krstic.
 
I'm sure teams are lining up right now to somehow get the nets 10th, 11th, and 12th player for someone who starts.
 
nets1 said:
I'm sure teams are lining up right now to somehow get the nets 10th, 11th, and 12th player for someone who starts.
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It's to save 10 million next season and gain a young big. Then again, thinking about it some more, the Knicks (Marbury's contract) or Heat (Marion's contract) or Cavs (Wally's contract)could offer bigger savings.
 
Terrible move by the Thunder to consider a sign-and-trade. The Thunder are pretty much guaranteed that 31st pick, which is actually sort of valuable. There are always players who slide to the second round and the Thunder will have first dibs. Krstic is solid but he's a proven commodity and apparently might still be injured. He's more of an asset to a team looking to actually compete this year - not a team fighting to avoid the worst record in NBA history. If I'm Thunder management I look to keep every draft pick.
 
no thanks. trade for krstich and yi gets low playing minutes
 
BrooklynBound said:
Krstic is better than Yi. Post skills, confidence, court sense - it's no contest.
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YI is better jumper and gets lots of grabbed rebounds. he can shoot too just please give him a chance!!!
 
Himuki said:
YI is better jumper and gets lots of grabbed rebounds. he can shoot too just please give him a chance!!!
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He has been given a chance and has not played well. Krstic was a pretty good shooter himself and did a better job on all sides of the ball. Basically, he was doing everything the Nets hoped Yi would do.
 
Mr. J said:
He has been given a chance and has not played well. Krstic was a pretty good shooter himself and did a better job on all sides of the ball. Basically, he was doing everything the Nets hoped Yi would do.
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kristich could nt play thats why he does not play in NBA YI made it on to a team he is better. Nets choosing YI did not choosing Krstich.
 
Himuki said:
kristich could nt play thats why he does not play in NBA YI made it on to a team he is better. Nets choosing YI did not choosing Krstich.
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Huh? Krstic could play and averaged 16/7 with the Nets a few years ago. I guess there was more money for him overseas which he is not in the NBA. Honestly, I'll take an injured Krstic over a healthy Yi. They'll probably have a similar impact.
 
Mr. J said:
Huh? Krstic could play and averaged 16/7 with the Nets a few years ago. I guess there was more money for him overseas which he is not in the NBA. Honestly, I'll take an injured Krstic over a healthy Yi. They'll probably have a similar impact.
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but now he is broken man :( YI is not a broken. KRsitch can not get 16 basket points and grabbing 7 boards now he is too broken and also bald.
 
Barring Krstic coming back for the Nets at his previous level, the 2nd rounder is the way to go. Or if someone's doing a fire sale on a Gasol or KG type player...

Guys like Joe Smith might have some gas left in the tank, but they're nothing close to "the piece" to put the Nets over the top.
 
Denny Crane said:
Barring Krstic coming back for the Nets at his previous level, the 2nd rounder is the way to go. Or if someone's doing a fire sale on a Gasol or KG type player...

Guys like Joe Smith might have some gas left in the tank, but they're nothing close to "the piece" to put the Nets over the top.
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Yeah. Smith would be a solid veteran big man for a team to have for a lot of teams. But like you said, adding him to this team isn't going to make a huge difference.
 
Why is everyone focusing on Joe Smith? As noted, the Nets have long coveted Chris Wilcox. They tried to get him in the Kittles trade, failed. They tried to trade the Clippers first round pick (from the KMart trade) back to the Clips for him, failed. They must have tried five times to get him. Now he is playing 21 minutes a game in OKC, after two years of 13 and 7 in Seattle. He will lose even more minutes when Krstic arrives. He has one more year on his deal. He's still only 26. Trade Swift for him (works straight up) and then let the Thunder have Krstic. If he works out, you have his Bird Rights. If not, it's not a big risk.
 
Mr. J said:
Huh? Krstic could play and averaged 16/7 with the Nets a few years ago. I guess there was more money for him overseas which he is not in the NBA. Honestly, I'll take an injured Krstic over a healthy Yi. They'll probably have a similar impact.
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No way in hell Krstic average 16/7 with Harris and Lopez. No way Krstic getting 16 shots a game near the post with dribble drive Harris.
 
ToddMacCulloch11 said:
Yeah. Smith would be a solid veteran big man for a team to have for a lot of teams. But like you said, adding him to this team isn't going to make a huge difference.
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well you see what Jarvis is doing for us, consistancy is it's own type of difference on this team.
 
is chris wilkcox good player?
 
Here's another possibility. The Thunder also hold the rights to Devon Hardin, the 6'11" PF they took in the second round but told to get experience in Europe. He suffered a stress fracture in his leg just before heading East. Nets worked him out in 2007 and liked him but he decided to go back to Cal. They worked him out in 2008 again and said nice things about him. He was Ryan Anderson's teammate at Cal. He is about to be cleared to return to action.

Nets could trade for his draft rights, keep him in Europe or in D-League, then sign him at year's end...or sign him now. I know they dont need another power forward, but this guy is no-risk and 22 years old.

http://www.newsok.com/thunder-noteb...article/3328821?custom_click=headlines_widget
 
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NetIncome said:
Why is everyone focusing on Joe Smith? As noted, the Nets have long coveted Chris Wilcox. They tried to get him in the Kittles trade, failed. They tried to trade the Clippers first round pick (from the KMart trade) back to the Clips for him, failed. They must have tried five times to get him. Now he is playing 21 minutes a game in OKC, after two years of 13 and 7 in Seattle. He will lose even more minutes when Krstic arrives. He has one more year on his deal. He's still only 26. Trade Swift for him (works straight up) and then let the Thunder have Krstic. If he works out, you have his Bird Rights. If not, it's not a big risk.
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Wasn't that quite a while back? Hasn't Wilcox sort of lost the "amazing upside" tag by this point? Where does he fit on the Nets these days?

For that matter, this seems like a game of chicken to me. I got to think that the Thunder should just say "Hey, I don't think you'll match" and not offer much back in a sign and trade. If they offer anything, it'll be something they don't mind getting rid of, at all.

Oddly enough, Wilcox might fit that bill.
 
MikeDC said:
Wasn't that quite a while back? Hasn't Wilcox sort of lost the "amazing upside" tag by this point? Where does he fit on the Nets these days?

For that matter, this seems like a game of chicken to me. I got to think that the Thunder should just say "Hey, I don't think you'll match" and not offer much back in a sign and trade. If they offer anything, it'll be something they don't mind getting rid of, at all.

Oddly enough, Wilcox might fit that bill.
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I think this is what will happen.
 
package devon hardin and sean williams for joe alexander?
 
NetIncome said:
Here's another possibility. The Thunder also hold the rights to Devon Hardin, the 6'11" PF they took in the second round but told to get experience in Europe. He suffered a stress fracture in his leg just before heading East. Nets worked him out in 2007 and liked him but he decided to go back to Cal. They worked him out in 2008 again and said nice things about him. He was Ryan Anderson's teammate at Cal. He is about to be cleared to return to action.

Nets could trade for his draft rights, keep him in Europe or in D-League, then sign him at year's end...or sign him now. I know they dont need another power forward, but this guy is no-risk and 22 years old.

http://www.newsok.com/thunder-noteb...article/3328821?custom_click=headlines_widget
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Ah, smart. Nets loved this guy and Thunder really have no room for him even before the Krstic signing so this would be a great deal.
 
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