Kyle Singler anyone?

[jlprk]

And just what do you base that on? So I am racist now because I don't think race belongs in our discussions for the most part? I bet 1984 is your favorite book. War is Peace!!

Speaking of definitions turning 180 degrees, schools now apparently teach that the definition of "racism" is "mentioning race." You didn't quite say that but many younger people seem to equate the two. Talking about race moves the country to the left, and about gender, to the right. That's why we've always been discouraged to do the former and encouraged on the latter. Not allowing humorous variance from the party line is a second way to control it.

The definition of "anti-racism" now is, "I'm all for equality as long as they obey our laws, obey European cultural values, and are basically white people on the inside. There is no possible alternative value system to the white one."

You should have seen TV variety shows around 1970. Lots of racial humor. Revolutionary times. Not just resentful stuff from white middle class kids like now who equate racism with mentioning race, but funny stereotypes from black ghetto comedians who were freeing up white brains.

 

[MickZagger]

^ I actually agree.

 

[THE HCP]

Relax. When you're strongly anti-racist you can joke about it. When you're semi-racist you're uptight about it.

You nailed it right there.

 

[jlprk]

What a face! No one will ever call you a Latin Lover!

 

[Stevenson]

Speaking of definitions turning 180 degrees, schools now apparently teach that the definition of "racism" is "mentioning race." You didn't quite say that but many younger people seem to equate the two. ...You should have seen TV variety shows around 1970. Lots of racial humor. Revolutionary times. Not just resentful stuff from white middle class kids like now who equate racism with mentioning race, but funny stereotypes from black ghetto comedians who were freeing up white brains.

Bro, I am probably older than you - look at my avatar for a hint - but that is besides the point. Of course race can and should be discussed - when appropriate, but discussing race is different than making race-based mass generalizations, especially of a negative stereotype. It's not OK on the left, nor on the right, nor by whites, Hispanics, blacks, or blue people. Why some people here think its OK is beyond me.

You can try and explain it away with 'its all in good fun.' Often it is, but often it is not. People can use humor to express their true racist feelings. We all know that. But the rub is when they then try and say you are a square for not buying into the joke. Sorry, I refuse to play that game.

 

[THE HCP]

Just listening to Dan Patrick for a minute, he was talking about how he didn't like how players get stereotyped. How white players are called hardworking and gritty with high I.Q. He said black players are never labeled as high I.Q.

 

[MickZagger]

Just listening to Dan Patrick for a minute, he was talking about how he didn't like how players get stereotyped. How white players are called hardworking and gritty with high I.Q. He said black players are never labeled as high I.Q.

Battier, Andre Miller, Mark Jackson, Gary Payton......There's been plenty of black players who were labeled high IQ.

 

[LittleAlex]

Just listening to Dan Patrick for a minute, he was talking about how he didn't like how players get stereotyped. How white players are called hardworking and gritty with high I.Q. He said black players are never labeled as high I.Q.

The comedian Bill Burr has a pretty long bit about this that's pretty funny if you aren't easily offended.
If you are then I suggest you steer clear of mister Burr.


I don't want Kyle Singler not because he is tall and white but because he is slow, can't jump, has a bad handle and a shakey jumper.

In otherwords, a poor man's Yi.

 

[PapaG]

Just listening to Dan Patrick for a minute, he was talking about how he didn't like how players get stereotyped. How white players are called hardworking and gritty with high I.Q. He said black players are never labeled as high I.Q.

He's never heard people talk about Andre Miller or Jason Kidd?

 

[PapaG]

Battier, Andre Miller, Mark Jackson, Gary Payton......There's been plenty of black players who were labeled high IQ.

Exactly.

Joe Dumars and Isiah Thomas won two titles for Detroit because they had such a high BB IQ.

Dennis Johnson, Terry Porter, Terrell Brandon, Grant Hill, Robert Horry, etc. etc., and obviously the Magic Johnsons and Scottie Pippens as well.

Dan Patrick is much, much better since he left ESPN, but he whiffed on this one.

 

[Minstrel]

Exactly.

Joe Dumars and Isiah Thomas won two titles for Detroit because they had such a high BB IQ.

Dennis Johnson, Terry Porter, Terrell Brandon, Grant Hill, Robert Horry, etc. etc., and obviously the Magic Johnsons and Scottie Pippens as well.

Dan Patrick is much, much better since he left ESPN, but he whiffed on this one.

I don't think he whiffed on it. Obviously, every rule has exceptions, but my perception is also that the term "heady" or "high basketball IQ" tends to be given predominantly to white players, while black players are generally given labels related to athleticism. I'm not saying that this is definitely true, as I have no evidence, it's just my perception of basketball talk over the years.