OT Lakers teammates 'isolating' D'Angelo Russell after video surfaces

[BlazerCaravan]

Seriously, it's not a bout the "bro shield". It's about basketball, or more generally, personal vested interest.

Do you (or anyone else in here) have even the slightest vested interest in Nick Young's ability to remain faithful to Iggy Azalea? Probably not.

Do you have even the slightest vested interest in D'Angelo Russell's adherence to the bro code amongst his buddies? Not at all.

Does Nick Young's fidelity (or lack thereof) impact the Lakers ability to lose lots of games? Doubtful.

Do you have a vested interest in D'Angelo Russell sabotaging his relationships with his teammates and likely inhibiting the Lakers' rebuild? You betcha.

We only care about the "bro code" when in affects the sport.

I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS FORUM! I AM TALKING ABOUT EVERYWHERE!

Of course nobody ON THIS FORUM gives a shit. But look at Twitter, look at Facebook, or don't whatever. And yeah, because I'm an actual human being with fucking empathy, I do think Nick Young is a shitty human being, and I consider his activities AS BAD as Russell's. But it sure as fuck seems like no other man does. And that's stupid.

 

[oldmangrouch]

It's the difference between Young pissing in his own swimming pool, and Russell pissing in the team jacuzzi.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Bros before hoes....

That's why Russel is a punk...

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Which is why we don't give a shit about Kobe in Denver, and don't bring it up OVER and OVER...

Seriously, your post is stupid.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

Kobe is despised because he is a perennial all-star, and a Laker. Hie Denver activities matter to Kobe haters, because he is a perennial all-star, and a Laker. If Kendall Marshall had raped a girl in Denver, nobody would bring it up, because nobody cares about him.

 

[illmatic99]

I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS FORUM! I AM TALKING ABOUT EVERYWHERE!

Of course nobody ON THIS FORUM gives a shit. But look at Twitter, look at Facebook, or don't whatever. And yeah, because I'm an actual human being with fucking empathy, I do think Nick Young is a shitty human being, and I consider his activities AS BAD as Russell's. But it sure as fuck seems like no other man does. And that's stupid.

Exactly. This forum focuses on bball and the Lakers. Got 0 problem with that. But general society? Man... everyone is just giving shit to D'Angelo.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I'm sorry you feel that way.

Kobe is despised because he is a perennial all-star, and a Laker. Hie Denver activities matter to Kobe haters, because he is a perennial all-star, and a Laker. If Kendall Marshall had raped a girl in Denver, nobody would bring it up, because nobody cares about him.

And that is shitty and stupid, and caused by the fucking bro shield.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS FORUM! I AM TALKING ABOUT EVERYWHERE!

Of course nobody ON THIS FORUM gives a shit. But look at Twitter, look at Facebook, or don't whatever. And yeah, because I'm an actual human being with fucking empathy, I do think Nick Young is a shitty human being, and I consider his activities AS BAD as Russell's. But it sure as fuck seems like no other man does. And that's stupid.

But the reason this is a news story is because it impacts the reason that they are famous, ie, their basketball team. If it were you secretly recording @Natebishop3 talking about cheating on his woman, it wouldn't be on twitter. That doesn't mean that Young isn't a reprehensible human being, or that infidelity is somehow more acceptable than locker-room betrayal. It simply means that infidelity isn't as newsworthy.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

I'm sorry you feel that way.

Kobe is despised because he is a perennial all-star, and a Laker. Hie Denver activities matter to Kobe haters, because he is a perennial all-star, and a Laker. If Kendall Marshall had raped a girl in Denver, nobody would bring it up, because nobody cares about him.

Strongly disagree. Rape is on a whole different level than cheating.

Cheating is between the couple involved. There are many different interpretations of how couples view their relationship. When I was in the military, there were many guys that could not wait to get out to see in order to hit a port and hook up with someone other than their wife. Saw many wives that could not wait for them to leave either. I found it was just best to stay out of it.

There is no bro code for rape.

 

[ripcityboy]

Nick Young cheated on Iggy?! Swaggy whatever--

(Shock Horror)

To quote Edmund Blackadder

"Or alternatively, the greatest work of fiction since vows of fidelity were include in the French marriage license."

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Strongly disagree. Rape is on a whole different level than cheating.

Cheating is between the couple involved. There are many different interpretations of how couples view their relationship. When I was in the military, there were many guys that could not wait to get out to see in order to hit a port and hook up with someone other than their wife. Saw many wives that could not wait for them to leave either. I found it was just best to stay out of it.

There is no bro code for rape.

Has nothing to do with the bro code. I'm not condoning rape at all in any form, in any situation, by any person. I'm saying that Kobe's indiscretions get brought up repeatedly because it's Kobe, not because of the nature thereof.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

But the reason this is a news story is because it impacts the reason that they are famous, ie, their basketball team. If it were you secretly recording @Natebishop3 talking about cheating on his woman, it wouldn't be on twitter. That doesn't mean that Young isn't a reprehensible human being, or that infidelity is somehow more acceptable than locker-room betrayal. It simply means that infidelity isn't as newsworthy.

Why we are talking at all isn't relevant. Now that people are talking, the conversation is almost exclusively about how awful it was that Russell outed Swaggy P, with the assumption that boys will be boys, but snitches get stitches. Both are bullshit philosophies, regardless of how famous the subjects are.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Has nothing to do with the bro code. I'm not condoning rape at all in any form, in any situation, by any person. I'm saying that Kobe's indiscretions get brought up repeatedly because it's Kobe, not because of the nature thereof.

Ruben Patterson was not nearly the player Kobe is. Is the first thing you think when you hear his name "nanny"?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Why we are talking at all is it relevant. Now that people are talking, the conversation is almost exclusively about how awful it was that Russell outed Swaggy P, with the assumption that boys will be boys, but snitches get stitches. Both are bullshit philosophies, regardless of how famous the subjects are.

Or put another way: the conversation is almost exclusively about how awful it was that Russell outed Swaggy P, with the assumption that Young's infidelity doesn't impact his job, but Russell's betrayal of a teammate is presumed to be a major contributor to the Lakers' worst loss in franchise history.

 

[Draco]

And yet, Swaggy P is getting off the hook here as a victim. The lack of trust between him and A WOMAN is being ignored while everyone is upset about Russell's lack of trust with another man. Bro code, for bros only.

He's not getting off the hook; he has to deal with all the crap of that tape coming out and his fiance leaving. Nobodies talking about it because its a normal every day story.

What DAngelo did doesn't ever happen and has basketball ramifications so its a much more compelling story.

 

[illmatic99]

He's not getting off the hook; he has to deal with all the crap of that tape coming out and his fiance leaving. Nobodies talking about it because its a normal every day story.

God our society is so fucked

 

[blue9]

Trying to muster outrage over infidelity between two entertainers is impossible. It only affects those involved.

Now, what should be more concerning are the politicians whose decisions directly impact our lives and when their actions contradict their words and the laws they impose on us. I really hope that Madam Palfrey's attorney releases the names of clients who are currently running for POTUS. Sanctity of marriage my ass, Religious Right!

 

[PtldPlatypus]

God our society is so fucked

I'm sure He's well aware.

 

[Boob-No-More]

And yet, Swaggy P is getting off the hook here as a victim. The lack of trust between him and A WOMAN is being ignored while everyone is upset about Russell's lack of trust with another man. Bro code, for bros only.

I didn't let him off the hook. I specifically said "two wrongs don't make a right". So, what he did is also wrong. I didn't elaborate, because his wrong is between him and his fiance and does not impact the Lakers on court performance to nearly the same extent (if at all) as Russell's wrong. To me, it's not about any "bro code", it's about team chemistry and how it impacts the Lakers current and future success. This is a basketball forum, and that's what I come here to discuss.

BNM

 

[BengalDuck]

We should be focused less on the morality of what Russell did and focused more on how we could acquire him.

Russell wouldn't be asked to be a star here. We already have Lillard.

I would try McCollum straight up for him, though.

 

[ripcityboy]

Actually, the idea that faithfulness in marriage (esp. In modern society) is being mentioned here is a sham to me. What D'Angelo did was childish and wrong but fidelity among entertainers..... what world are we living on? Loose sex is a ball players given birthright the moment he reaches the bigs. And marrying a famous rapper is going to quench his young lust? Dave Justice had Halle Berry at home and he was f-cking everything in sight. Celebrities get married to each other because of their exposure level and public need for attention. They go through marriage certificates like gerbils through newspaper. Nick was just being Nick.

 

[KingSpeed]

Is Russell tradeable? What team would want him in their lockerroom? This could kill his career. Crazy.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Is Russell tradeable? What team would want him in their lockerroom? This could kill his career. Crazy.

Would he not look great in a three guard rotation here with Dame and CJ?

 

[ripcityboy]

Would he not look great in a three guard rotation here with Dame and CJ?

As bad as this is I still can't see the Lakers giving him up on him yet. He's friggin' 19, we would be having to talk Marvin Barnes level of immaturity for him to be traded. Also, the other players would have to demand it.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

As bad as this is I still can't see the Lakers giving him up on him yet. He's friggin' 19, we would be having to talk Marvin Barnes level of immaturity for him to be traded. Also, the other players would have to demand it.

The real question--if Jordan Clarkson and Julius Randle go to management with an "It's him or us" ultimatum, which way do they go?

 

[Draco]

The real question--if Jordan Clarkson and Julius Randle go to management with an "It's him or us" ultimatum, which way do they go?

Or a potential free agent?

 

[Boob-No-More]

As bad as this is I still can't see the Lakers giving him up on him yet. He's friggin' 19, we would be having to talk Marvin Barnes level of immaturity for him to be traded. Also, the other players would have to demand it.

Well, technically, he's 20, but yeah, still very young and VERY immature. He will get older. The gamble is will he also get more mature? Most people do, but it's not guaranteed. That's the risk. He has talent and would be worth the gamble if the price is low. Plus, if he ever does get it and put it altogether, I DON'T want it to be on the Lakers. I hope they overreact and dump him for next to nothing, basically wasting the #2 pick in the draft.

BNM

 

[Orion Bailey]

Well, technically, he's 20, but yeah, still very young and VERY immature. He will get older. The gamble is will he also get more mature? Most people do, but it's not guaranteed. That's the risk. He has talent and would be worth the gamble if the price is low. Plus, if he ever does get it and put it altogether, I DON'T want it to be on the Lakers. I hope they overreact and dump him for next to nothing, basically wasting the #2 pick in the draft.

BNM

Look At Boogie,. Sure hasn't shown any growth. If anything he might actually be regressing in maturation.

 

[Draco]

Well, technically, he's 20, but yeah, still very young and VERY immature. He will get older. The gamble is will he also get more mature? Most people do, but it's not guaranteed. That's the risk. He has talent and would be worth the gamble if the price is low. Plus, if he ever does get it and put it altogether, I DON'T want it to be on the Lakers. I hope they overreact and dump him for next to nothing, basically wasting the #2 pick in the draft.

BNM

How about they trade him for Rubio and the Twolves draft Simmons.

Towns
Simmons
Wiggins
LaVine
Russell

2020 Dynasty?

 

[Pinwheel1]

We should be focused less on the morality of what Russell did and focused more on how we could acquire him.

Russell wouldn't be asked to be a star here. We already have Lillard.

I would try McCollum straight up for him, though.

How many Laker games have you watched this year? What does he do better than CJ?

 

[Natebishop3]

It's really this simple:

Does Young cheating on his fiancee impact the Los Angeles Lakers? No.

Does Russell posting that video impact the Los Angeles Lakers? Yes.

Would you stir up this kind of drama where you work? Would you get involved in the personal lives of a coworker? Would you potentially destroy your work culture because either you:

A) Thought posting the video was funny

or

B) Held the moral opinion that his fiancee deserves to know

And if you felt like she needed to know, why wouldn't you just show her the video instead of posting it online? That kind of public humility is typically only reserved for people you hate with every fiber of your being, so what does that say to your teammates?