Larry sanders a possibility?

[magnifier661]

With getting smacked around by Miami, Milwaukee may look to make a significant move. I believe sanders is one of their greatest assets. If they get swept; I suspect Milwaukee will make a major move.

I think in order for us to grab sanders, we need to give up batum or Matthews, Leonard and possibly Barton. We would have to take on one of their bad contracts in return. Maybe golden?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

IMO, Milwaukee knows that Sanders/Henson is one of the best young frontcourt tandems in the league. I imagine they're going to let those two develop together. Ilyasova's more likely to move than either of them.

 

[magnifier661]

But I want sanders!!!!! Waaaah waaaaah!

This reminds of the "there's something about Mary" scene when Stanler is giving that hitchhiker a ride and he explains about his 6 minute abs video being better than the 7 minute abs.

 

[Blazinaway]

With getting smacked around by Miami, Milwaukee may look to make a significant move. I believe sanders is one of their greatest assets. If they get swept; I suspect Milwaukee will make a major move.

I think in order for us to grab sanders, we need to give up batum or Matthews, Leonard and possibly Barton. We would have to take on one of their bad contracts in return. Maybe golden?

get serious, yeah they want to rebuild and then trade a great young asset that everyone would want for a rebuild, we or anyone else would have to give up a lot more than we wanted to get a deal like that done - ain't happening, move on

 

[Blazinaway]

But I want sanders!!!!! Waaaah waaaaah!

This reminds of the "there's something about Mary" scene when Stanler is giving that hitchhiker a ride and he explains about his 6 minute abs video being better than the 7 minute abs.

I believe the Stones are touring again, I suggest you listen to "Can't always get what you want" about 100 times...lol

 

[BBert]

But I want sanders!!!!!

Really? Hadn't noticed.

 

[magnifier661]

get serious, yeah they want to rebuild and then trade a great young asset that everyone would want for a rebuild, we or anyone else would have to give up a lot more than we wanted to get a deal like that done - ain't happening, move on

I don't know. Many would trade Aldridge for the right price. I think it depends on what price we have to offer.

 

[magnifier661]

I believe the Stones are touring again, I suggest you listen to "Can't always get what you want" about 100 times...lol

But if you try sometimes.... You get what you need!!!!!

 

[Blazinaway]

But if you try sometimes.... You get what you need!!!!!

"a dose of reality methinks"

 

[Natebishop3]

Eh, if you offered Batum, Leonard, and the #10 they might go for it.

 

[The Dude]

But if you try sometimes.... You get what you need!!!!!

As in the Blazers want Larry sanders, but need someone better than what they had, is all

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't think this trade would be bad for the Bucks. They clear two HORRIBLE contracts off their books and they get three young talented players + a draft pick.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I know it's Friday, but isn't it a little early to be shrooming?

 

[BlazerWookee]

I don't think this trade would be bad for the Bucks. They clear two HORRIBLE contracts off their books and they get three young talented players + a draft pick.

Drew Fucking Gordon? Uberblech...

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Drew Fucking Gordon? Uberblech...

I read somewhere that one of David Stern's goals before retirement was to make sure Drew Gooden played for every NBA team at some point in his career.

Drew is okay with it because it's the only way he'll ever see the HoF.

 

[OregonHuskerMan]

I don't think this trade would be bad for the Bucks. They clear two HORRIBLE contracts off their books and they get three young talented players + a draft pick.

Olshey should immediately be fired if he even thinks about that trade.

 

[Rhal]

I may be in the minority but i'd wait to trade for Sanders unless its a small price. He is going to be a RFA and next summer will command a near max deal, someone like that we might be better suited trying to trade for near the deadline when the bucks decide they dont' want to pay the price he will cost them to keep.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I know Meyers is white, so he's got that going against him (according to some; Leonard is 2 inches taller, too). But if Sanders can turn into what he's become, who's to say Leonard can't improve? Aside from blocks, Leonard had a better rookie season than Sanders, and was 2 years younger during his rookie season than Sanders was during his. Obviously, not everyone improves at the same pace, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. At this point, Leonard seems to be playing on his athleticism more than his skill and knowledge of the game, so he certainly has a lot of room to grow.

But, of course, that doesn't solve the "now" that many of you seek.

 

[Blazinaway]

I know Meyers is white, so he's got that going against him (according to some; Leonard is 2 inches taller, too). But if Sanders can turn into what he's become, who's to say Leonard can't improve? Aside from blocks, Leonard had a better rookie season than Sanders, and was 2 years younger during his rookie season than Sanders was during his. Obviously, not everyone improves at the same pace, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. At this point, Leonard seems to be playing on his athleticism more than his skill and knowledge of the game, so he certainly has a lot of room to grow.

But, of course, that doesn't solve the "now" that many of you seek.

tend to agree here, and I find myself too easily writing meyers off when we all knew when he wast drafted he was at least a 2-3 yr "project". What surprised me his 1st yr was hiss offensive potential, what depressed me was his awful D and rebounding and frankly lack of shot blocking given his natural athletic ability.
While he certainly deserves a lot more time to develop we also need a sold C to man the job while he gets that chance.

 

[The Dude]

I know Meyers is white, so he's got that going against him (according to some; Leonard is 2 inches taller, too). But if Sanders can turn into what he's become, who's to say Leonard can't improve? Aside from blocks, Leonard had a better rookie season than Sanders, and was 2 years younger during his rookie season than Sanders was during his. Obviously, not everyone improves at the same pace, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. At this point, Leonard seems to be playing on his athleticism more than his skill and knowledge of the game, so he certainly has a lot of room to grow.

But, of course, that doesn't solve the "now" that many of you seek.

I don't understand the first sentence at all, but if we are looking for a defensive center, then Sanders and Leonard couldn't be more different. I'm also not sure how much Sanders has actually improved? he blocked 3 shots a game as a rookie in 36 minutes, while this year blocking 3.7. His defensive rating is identical to his rookie season (99). He also blocked 2.6 shots and had 9.1 rebounds per game his last year in school (26.9 minutes)

Leonard on the other hand averaged 1.1 blocks per 36 minutes with a defensive rating of 110. His college stats 1.9 blocks and 8.2 rebounds per game in 31.8 minutes his last year in school.

Offensively Leonard seems to be way ahead of sanders, but it doesn't appear that he has ever been the defender that sanders was or is now.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I don't understand the first sentence at all, but if we are looking for a defensive center, then Sanders and Leonard couldn't be more different. I'm also not sure how much Sanders has actually improved? he blocked 3 shots a game as a rookie in 36 minutes, while this year blocking 3.7. His defensive rating is identical to his rookie season (99). He also blocked 2.6 shots and had 9.1 rebounds per game his last year in school (26.9 minutes)

Leonard on the other hand averaged 1.1 blocks per 36 minutes with a defensive rating of 110. His college stats 1.9 blocks and 8.2 rebounds per game in 31.8 minutes his last year in school.

Offensively Leonard seems to be way ahead of sanders, but it doesn't appear that he has ever been the defender that sanders was or is now.

From your post count, it's clear you wouldn't understand. I won't bother explaining, rook.

I guess I didn't make it clear enough when I pointed out the difference in blocks. Or when I said that Leonard is playing solely on athleticism and needs to learn the game. And you're not understanding the point of my post. I didn't compare the players in the sense of saying they were similar players. I'm just saying Sanders has improved, so who's to say Leonard won't? Sanders is clearly better at some parts of the game than Leonard, and vice versa. If we were to acquire Sanders, it's not likely we'd have both centers on the roster long-term. So the overall point is that it's not inconceivable we have our center of the future on our roster today.

 

[Natebishop3]

Olshey should immediately be fired if he even thinks about that trade.

Because defensive centers grow on trees? Sometimes you have to take back some shit to get what you want.

 

[Rhal]

I don't understand the first sentence at all, but if we are looking for a defensive center, then Sanders and Leonard couldn't be more different. I'm also not sure how much Sanders has actually improved? he blocked 3 shots a game as a rookie in 36 minutes, while this year blocking 3.7. His defensive rating is identical to his rookie season (99). He also blocked 2.6 shots and had 9.1 rebounds per game his last year in school (26.9 minutes)

Leonard on the other hand averaged 1.1 blocks per 36 minutes with a defensive rating of 110. His college stats 1.9 blocks and 8.2 rebounds per game in 31.8 minutes his last year in school.

Offensively Leonard seems to be way ahead of sanders, but it doesn't appear that he has ever been the defender that sanders was or is now.

One of the great statistics that came out about Sanders was how he effected peoples shooting % by just being near them. No one shot over 42% when he was within 5 feet of them.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

tend to agree here, and I find myself too easily writing meyers off when we all knew when he wast drafted he was at least a 2-3 yr "project". What surprised me his 1st yr was hiss offensive potential, what depressed me was his awful D and rebounding and frankly lack of shot blocking given his natural athletic ability.
While he certainly deserves a lot more time to develop we also need a sold C to man the job while he gets that chance.

Agreed. But when you watch ML, you start to realize so much of what he's doing is playing off his athleticism. He has yet to really learn the game. With his size and athleticism, he probably never needed to. He's a bright kid, though. I'd like to believe he's starting to realize he can no longer rely on his ability alone and now needs to learn the game.

It's kind of similar to when we drafted Travis Outlaw. Dude was amazing athletic and had always been so superior that way that he never actually needed to learn the game. Of course, many here would say he still hasn't learned the game (that would be somewhat true). But once he figured out enough about the game, he became serviceable, and he fit in well with our roster for a couple of seasons.

 

[Natebishop3]

Agreed. But when you watch ML, you start to realize so much of what he's doing is playing off his athleticism. He has yet to really learn the game. With his size and athleticism, he probably never needed to. He's a bright kid, though. I'd like to believe he's starting to realize he can no longer rely on his ability alone and now needs to learn the game.

It's kind of similar to when we drafted Travis Outlaw. Dude was amazing athletic and had always been so superior that way that he never actually needed to learn the game. Of course, many here would say he still hasn't learned the game (that would be somewhat true). But once he figured out enough about the game, he became serviceable, and he fit in well with our roster for a couple of seasons.

If by serviceable you mean that he was only good for one thing, then yes... you are right. The guy couldn't play within the scheme of the offense, so McMillan would just throw him out there and give him the ball. He was completely outside the scheme on defense, and he wasn't smart enough to understand what the team was doing on offense. The guy was a black hole on one end, and a sieve on the other.

 

[maxiep]

Hey now!

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I was never much of a Travis Outlaw fan, but he was a solid contributor (albeit it pretty much scoring-only) for a couple seasons. I don't disagree with your post, but give the guy a little credit.

 

[Natebishop3]

I was never much of a Travis Outlaw fan, but he was a solid contributor (albeit it pretty much scoring-only) for a couple seasons. I don't disagree with your post, but give the guy a little credit.

He had an unguardable pull up. That's as much credit as I'll give him.