Larry Sanders works out for Celtics

[Denny Crane]

Yes. We pay the LT. The exception does not impact total salary which is the basis of the LT calc.

I thought so.

I think NO wants to keep and use the $7M expiring himself. It makes it easier to deal with the LT situation next year.

 

[Boob-No-More]

If we're $500K under the LT and Sanders' pro-rated salary is $501K after getting the injured player exception, we pay the LT, no?

Correct. This is an exception that creates a salary slot to sign a player, it is not a form of cap relief. Both Ezeli's and the new player's contract would count against both the cap and the luxury tax.

In that case, we could (assuming it was applied for and granted) use the DPE to sign a player, even though we are $19 million over the cap, but would them need to move another player (taking back less, or hopefully nothing, in salary in return) to avoid crossing the luxury tax threshold.

BNM

 

[Denny Crane]

Correct. This is an exception that creates a salary slot to sign a player, it is not a form of cap relief. Both Ezeli's and the new player's contract would count against both the cap and the luxury tax.

In that case, we could (assuming it was applied for and granted) use the DPE to sign a player, even though we are $19 million over the cap, but would them need to move another player (taking back less, or hopefully nothing, in salary in return) to avoid crossing the luxury tax threshold.

BNM

Yes. We already talked about that possibility.

Or we could trade a player for another player with equal or lesser salary who's better than Sanders. That's my preference.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I thought so.

I think NO wants to keep and use the $7M expiring himself. It makes it easier to deal with the LT situation next year.

He could have still applied for the DPE and used it or let it expire. This is not a medical retirement (like Darius Miles). We'd still be paying Ezeli his full salary and he'd still be under contract to us. This does not change his contract status in any way. We could still trade him at the time of the draft, or keep him and decline his team option for 2017-18 by June 30.

So, we could get both the DPE and the future LT relief.

BNM

 

[lawai'a]

If we didn't apply for the Disabled Player Exception on Ezeli by the 15th, I'd have to ask why? Even if we weren't specifically targeting Sanders, it would make sense to get the exception and possibly use it on someone else.

I believe you can still trade the disabled player after receiving the exception, and I know you can still play that player if he recovers from his injury in unexpected fashion. The player you acquire, either via free agent signing or via trade, can make up to half of Ezeli's salary + $100,000, but must be in the final year of his contact, with no options for additional years.

This is the part of the wording of the Disabled Player Exception that gives me pause:

"This exception is granted by the league, based on an application from the team and a determination by an NBA-designated physician that the player is substantially more likely than not to be unable to play through the following June 15."

So, what the fuck is actually going on with Ezeli? Is he likely to return? If so, when? Is he not likely to return? If not, why not apply for the Disabled Player Exception? Does Neil not think an independent physician would determine "that the player is substantially more likely than not to be unable to play through the following June 15."? Why not at least apply for the exception and see?

Given the help this team needs, and the salary cap and luxury tax situation, I would think Neil would want to explore every possible option to get us some much needed help. Applying for the Disabled Player Exception has no negative consequences. Worst case you get denied, and you're in the same situation as if you didn't apply. The middle ground is you're granted the exception, but can't find a suitable player to add to the roster by March 10 (when the exception expires). Best case, you pick up a player that actually helps the team.

Who knows, maybe Neil applied for the exception and we just haven't heard anything about it.

BNM

maybe he was informed about blazers seeking exemption around 13th, remember quick posting about ezeli locker room goodbyes then?

 

[Minstrel]

maybe he was informed about blazers seeking exemption around 13th, remember quick posting about ezeli locker room goodbyes then?

It wouldn't have involved him leaving the team, though. It would just have given the Blazers an extra salary slot.

 

[Boob-No-More]

It wouldn't have involved him leaving the team, though. It would just have given the Blazers an extra salary slot.

Correct. A disabled player is not cut or waived. They are still under contract and can workout, rehab and travel with the team.

BNM

 

[BlazerWookee]

I'm still on this train, dont care that he hasn't played in years. Nice to see him working out for teams. Means his return could be near.

I can't help but picture Gary Shandling whenever I see that name, lol...

 

[Wizard Mentor]

We spent cap space getting the 1st rounder. My fear is that we'll have to use it to get some cash.

 

[Scalma]

Maybe we can get him for the minimum!

 

[Boob-No-More]

Maybe we can get him for the minimum!

And we still might be overpaying...

BNM

 

[oldfisherman]

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

 

[tester551]

Where is upshaw this year? It looks like he made it for about 1/2 year in Dleague I. '16, then disappeared.

 

[Orion Bailey]

If Portland pursues him, and he chooses another team, fine. But if Olshey doesn't even pursue him? GET. OUT.

Sanders also seems like a west coast guy, and I can't think of a team more in need of his services out here.

Hate to say it guys, but this is NOT the place for him. He will fall off the wagon in our Pot rampant town. How long before he fails a UA?
Wish it weren't so, but it would take serious discipline, which is something he has not shown in the past.

 

[Blazinaway]

he's now "increasing his efforts" to return to NBA, wonder if POR is one of the 3 teams?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/244757/Larry-Sanders-Increasing-Efforts-To-Return-To-NBA

 

[Cippy91]

 

[chzbrgr]

Hate to say it guys, but this is NOT the place for him. He will fall off the wagon in our Pot rampant town. How long before he fails a UA?
Wish it weren't so, but it would take serious discipline, which is something he has not shown in the past.

I really think you and others take weed wayyy to seriously in terms of it being a detriment to basketball performance. Meta World Peace used to drink hennesy during fucking halftime when he was on the lakers when they we're winning titles. I had a friend who set the single season block record in washington (high school) he said he'd smoke a blunt before every game with some of his teammates. I know its not the same competition or whatever but still. Point is I have absolutely no problem if he smokes pot (or even if he gets a positive test while on our roster) if he can bring what he brought in milwaukee you cant pass that guy up for some bogus reason like pot.