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Windows 9 IS STILL WINDOWS. That's the point.

They could make a much better OS if they dumped their legacy crap. That's the point.
 
Minstrel said:
Yes, so exactly what I said. Don't worry, no one's actually reading your slashfic of Darwin and Dawkins that you e-mailed to a friend, but their programmed ad may suggest you buy "The Selfish Gene."
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It's more than just that. It is under google's discretion what they feel is legal, like giving the information to NSA or the DEA. And since "YOU" signed the agreement, you give them warrant to use your information to their discretion.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Really? You're going to use a thread I created asking about the iPhone as an example of me bashing on Apple? Did you even read the thread? I bought a fucking iPhone.
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There was 2 threads and does it matter when? You acted like you "A PC user" never badmouthed apple and only the "fanboys" are guilty of it. And like I said, you were just as guilty.

Pot meet kettle...
 
In Texas it's legal to beat Apple fan boys.
 
magnifier661 said:
It's more than just that. It is under google's discretion what they feel is legal, like giving the information to NSA or the DEA. And since "YOU" signed the agreement, you give them warrant to use your information to their discretion.
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I agree that you have no security with Google against those law enforcement entities, not that I believe anything gives you any security against those entities.

But Google isn't reading your e-mails. At least, there's no indication that they are.
 
Minstrel said:
I agree that you have no security with Google against those law enforcement entities, not that I believe anything gives you any security against those entities.

But Google isn't reading your e-mails. At least, there's no indication that they are.
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Think again and then we might agree :)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/06/nsa-google_n_5273437.html

Basically, google has always read your emails. It has to to see if there's a virus attached, duh. It reads them to see if they're "spam" and moves them to the spam "folder" in gmail. It scans for keywords or combinations of those to figure out what ad to show you on the gmail.com page (your inbox, reading mail, etc.).

And the link above shows they have a close working relationship with big government NSA spy program.

Yeah, I think there's serious security concerns.

Let alone people will get their accounts hacked like the recent iCloud hacking of famous peoples' photos.
 
Denny Crane said:
Think again and then we might agree :)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/06/nsa-google_n_5273437.html
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Already posted by magnifier, already responded to.

And I already mentioned that they have programmatic scanning of e-mails for things like targeted ads. As I said, there's no indication that people at Google are reading your e-mails. Saying that virus scanning is "reading" is like saying that running a virus scanner on your computer means all your data is being read.
 
donkeys dont have much in the tits department, but dat azz is off the chain
 
windows 8 sucks, no ifs ands or buts

i liked windows 7 so heres hoping
 
3RA1N1AC said:
windows 8 sucks, no ifs ands or buts

i liked windows 7 so heres hoping
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I think if Microsoft would actually listen to their customers then things would be much better. They seem to want to be cool, which is hardly the case. People that use windows treat windows like a tool, not a lifestyle. They should leave that to apple and focus on being a cheap functioning OS for business.
 
I have the entire gamut of machines here, Macs (needed for iOS development), Chromebooks, Linux boxes and Windows machines. I tend to use a Windows machine as my go to system - but they are all good. The idea that Microsoft makes less secure software from Apple in this day and age is absurd - especially after the "it's not a problem with iCloud, it is a targeted attack, but we will enhance iCloud security in the future anyway" debacle.

On the plus side, I understand that Microsoft's software is so insecure that it can be used to view all the nudes you create and store with Apple devices...

Specifically about Windows 7, Windows 8, 8.1 and 9 - 8 and especially 8.1 is brilliant with the right hardware - I absolutely hate going back to the Mac and hitting the screen when I go to it - not having a touch screen in 2014 is absurd (until Apple comes with in 2016 and it is revolutionary, like big phones are now). Windows 8 and to a lesser level 8.1 is not as good with older, non-touch hardware. Hopefully they will fix that in 9. They have other things they need to update for Windows 9 - update the UI to look similar between Desktop and Metro, allow hosting of Metro Apps in Desktop windows (they already have the technology if you actually use the Visual Studio debugger in windows mode.

As for the Macbook Pro lasting longer than a Windows machine - one suspects that it cost initially 2 to 3 times more than that machine. Thinkpads - which cost as much as Apple notebooks are just as long lasting if not more so in my experience - and I have had quite a bit of them (as well as Apple products).

From a technical stand point - I would argue that Microsoft's OS is more advanced than MacOS - despite the fact that unlike Apple's offering it needs to adhere to thousands of different hardware configurations compared to dozens for Apple (life is much easier when you limit the hardware choices you have to write to). The biggest problem with a lot of Windows machines is the "race to the bottom" - OEMs that cut corners to compete on price. Once you have proper hardware (See Microsoft's own Surface Pros, most Thinkpads and some other machines by Lenovo and top-end Dells) - the package is just fantastic and has a lot of merits.

At the end of the day, Windows vs Mac, on the same quality of hardware, is really a preference today, do you care about touch screens or unix-style command lines (because the GUI portion on both is just fine). Macs come with better command lines out of the box (Unix shells), Windows comes with acceptable command lines but you can get 3rd party ones that are just as good or better (JP Software), and Windows can be had with fantastic touch screens.
 
Minstrel said:
Already posted by magnifier, already responded to.

And I already mentioned that they have programmatic scanning of e-mails for things like targeted ads. As I said, there's no indication that people at Google are reading your e-mails. Saying that virus scanning is "reading" is like saying that running a virus scanner on your computer means all your data is being read.
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A less smart company might scan your emails for patent applications (in progress), and other information that could advance their business.

I'm glad you agree they read your emails.
 
andalusian said:
I have the entire gamut of machines here, Macs (needed for iOS development), Chromebooks, Linux boxes and Windows machines. I tend to use a Windows machine as my go to system - but they are all good. The idea that Microsoft makes less secure software from Apple in this day and age is absurd - especially after the "it's not a problem with iCloud, it is a targeted attack, but we will enhance iCloud security in the future anyway" debacle.

On the plus side, I understand that Microsoft's software is so insecure that it can be used to view all the nudes you create and store with Apple devices...

Specifically about Windows 7, Windows 8, 8.1 and 9 - 8 and especially 8.1 is brilliant with the right hardware - I absolutely hate going back to the Mac and hitting the screen when I go to it - not having a touch screen in 2014 is absurd (until Apple comes with in 2016 and it is revolutionary, like big phones are now). Windows 8 and to a lesser level 8.1 is not as good with older, non-touch hardware. Hopefully they will fix that in 9. They have other things they need to update for Windows 9 - update the UI to look similar between Desktop and Metro, allow hosting of Metro Apps in Desktop windows (they already have the technology if you actually use the Visual Studio debugger in windows mode.

As for the Macbook Pro lasting longer than a Windows machine - one suspects that it cost initially 2 to 3 times more than that machine. Thinkpads - which cost as much as Apple notebooks are just as long lasting if not more so in my experience - and I have had quite a bit of them (as well as Apple products).

From a technical stand point - I would argue that Microsoft's OS is more advanced than MacOS - despite the fact that unlike Apple's offering it needs to adhere to thousands of different hardware configurations compared to dozens for Apple (life is much easier when you limit the hardware choices you have to write to). The biggest problem with a lot of Windows machines is the "race to the bottom" - OEMs that cut corners to compete on price. Once you have proper hardware (See Microsoft's own Surface Pros, most Thinkpads and some other machines by Lenovo and top-end Dells) - the package is just fantastic and has a lot of merits.

At the end of the day, Windows vs Mac, on the same quality of hardware, is really a preference today, do you care about touch screens or unix-style command lines (because the GUI portion on both is just fine). Macs come with better command lines out of the box (Unix shells), Windows comes with acceptable command lines but you can get 3rd party ones that are just as good or better (JP Software), and Windows can be had with fantastic touch screens.
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Very interesting post. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience.

Rep'd.
 
It still boils down to what you want to do with the machine. Gaming technology is obsolete in 4-5 years anyway, so having a computer that lasts 8 years is a pretty moot point if that's what you're going for. I have a shitty Dell Computer that still works and I bought it in 2008 :dunno:
 
Minstrel said:
Yeah, but most people don't consider programs scanning their e-mails for ad targeting to be the same as people reading through their e-mails as you implied.

I asked, right at the beginning, whether you were referring to programmatic attempts to target ads. You were. So that's that.
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I think they do more than just scan the emails. I think they tie it to your behavior. They know what you wrote in email, where you were physically when you sent email with your phone, what searches you made, etc.

They have a "file" on you. Like and FBI file.
 
Denny Crane said:
I think they do more than just scan the emails. I think they tie it to your behavior. They know what you wrote in email, where you were physically when you sent email with your phone, what searches you made, etc.

They have a "file" on you. Like and FBI file.
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I'd agree with that, but it's far more wide-reaching than Google. I have little doubt that Apple does the same thing with whatever information you provide them (like iTunes Store purchases) and many, many companies across the Internet track your online footprint and trade amongst themselves. Any company with the ability is going to engage in this. I don't think Google is noble or pure-hearted, nor do I think they're any more sinister or evil than any other corporation (though they are bigger than most others when it comes to online presence). All corporations are motivated by what's best for them, not protecting their consumers (any protection they do offer their consumers is purely a calculated risk/reward decision about their reputation).
 
Minstrel said:
I'd agree with that, but it's far more wide-reaching than Google. I have little doubt that Apple does the same thing with whatever information you provide them (like iTunes Store purchases) and many, many companies across the Internet track your online footprint and trade amongst themselves. Any company with the ability is going to engage in this. I don't think Google is noble or pure-hearted, nor do I think they're any more sinister or evil than any other corporation (though they are bigger than most others when it comes to online presence). All corporations are motivated by what's best for them, not protecting their consumers (any protection they do offer their consumers is purely a calculated risk/reward decision about their reputation).
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Google 10,000,000+, Apple 1.
http://marketingland.com/google-analytics-is-installed-on-more-than-10-million-websites-9935
 
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