Free Agent LeBron James and Portland

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Fucking guy should be paying attention to global events. Not lbj.

This president makes me ashamed to be a republican. Sorry for the political rant.
I believe I’m registered as a republican - yes throw the hate this way I guess... However I’m not ashamed of it. I did not and would never vote for Trump.
 
I believe I’m registered as a republican - yes throw the hate this way I guess... However I’m not ashamed of it. I did not and would never vote for Trump.
We can't just sign LBJ to a huge contract even if we wanted to.
Trump isn't a republican even if they want him to be one.
Demos didn't win, even if they wanted it.

I get this thread, now. Neat.
 
We can't just sign LBJ to a huge contract even if we wanted to.
Trump isn't a republican even if they want him to be one.
Demos didn't win, even if they wanted it.

I get this thread, now. Neat.
When did I say they could sign him to a huge contract?
I realize there are CBA rules...
 
Paul Allen should have opened up his wallet and paid LBJ whatever it takes If it's $30 Million/yr for five years then so be it. You know we would have won at least two championships and made our money back.

Does anyone else feel this way?
Not even a little. You couldn't pay me to root for a team with James on it.
 
I know people who've voted for him that are really good people.

They're stupid for voting for him but nonetheless, still good folk.

I think people who voted for him can be forgiven if they didn't realize he was going to be THIS bad..... but the people who STILL support him.... well...... I don't know what to say about that.
 
I think people who voted for him can be forgiven if they didn't realize he was going to be THIS bad..... but the people who STILL support him.... well...... I don't know what to say about that.

Just call a spade a spade?

Speak out against them?

It's not that hard and we need people like you to fill that role. Truly.

It's really about being a good American right now IMO.

When John McCain is the voice of reason...
 
Lanny, there is no penalty to just pay. The most the Blazers could offer was $5.3 million. There is no possible way to give LeBron $30 million. Even if it were possible, we could only offer the same as Philly or LAL could so he'd still have to choose us over them which wasn't going to happen.

You started a thread about something that isn't possible and are now getting defensive about it. This isn't the old days where teams could just pay whatever. There are rules.
you are assuming I'm defensive. Please ask me and I will give you a response.

There is so much written and verbal interchange in this world with precious little clarification requested. This is a clear sign of already having one's mind made up.
 
you are assuming I'm defensive. Please ask me and I will give you a response.
I will ask--how, within the confines of the CBA, do you believe Paul Allen could have done what you suggested in your OP?
 
I think people who voted for him can be forgiven if they didn't realize he was going to be THIS bad..... but the people who STILL support him.... well...... I don't know what to say about that.
He was, is, and always will be a liar, a thief, a narcissist, and a con man. The information was out there, and it was obvious. His fortune was built on thievery, fraud and bankruptcy. Clearly that is not a workable business model for government. Lot's of "good people" who voted for him still have their head up their ass. There's a sucker born every minute. And they vote, apparently.
 
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I will ask--how, within the confines of the CBA, do you believe Paul Allen could have done what you suggested in your OP?
I was talking about how I was viewed as defensive on the subject and not the subject itself.

Look, I don't know too much about the subject but I thought if he would just pay a specified penalty, he could pay LeBron whatever he wanted. Is this totally prohibited no matter the cost?
 
I am going to give the benefit of the doubt here and say that Lanny is putting you all on like his Karaoke post in the OT section.
No, I was serious. Let me know if it's not possible whatever the cost because I really don't know.
 
I was talking about how I was viewed as defensive on the subject and not the subject itself.

Look, I don't know too much about the subject but I thought if he would just pay a specified penalty, he could pay LeBron whatever he wanted. Is this totally prohibited no matter the cost?
Yes, it is prohibited. If a team is below the cap, they are only permitted to offer a free agent an amount up to the amount of their cap space. If they are over the cap, they can only offer the amount of an available cap exception. There are no cap exceptions that would permit Portland to offer Lebron $30M.
 
I was talking about how I was viewed as defensive on the subject and not the subject itself.

Look, I don't know too much about the subject but I thought if he would just pay a specified penalty, he could pay LeBron whatever he wanted. Is this totally prohibited no matter the cost?
Lanny, this is why I said you were being defensive. You have multiple people in this thread telling you it's not possible and it's not how it works yet you are still questioning whether it is prohibited or not.

It's not even close to being a possibility. The Blazers would've had to have almost $36 million in cap space to offer a max to LeBron. The salary cap is $101.9 million. The Blazers have over $131 million in guaranteed contracts. That means the Blazers would've had to trade away at least $67 million in contracts this year (not including other factors) with nothing in return just to be able to OFFER LeBron a max contract. It would still after all that (which would've been about an impossible of a task as I can think of) be completely up to LeBron.
 
Lanny, this is why I said you were being defensive. You have multiple people in this thread telling you it's not possible and it's not how it works yet you are still questioning whether it is prohibited or not.

It's not even close to being a possibility. The Blazers would've had to have almost $36 million in cap space to offer a max to LeBron. The salary cap is $101.9 million. The Blazers have over $131 million in guaranteed contracts. That means the Blazers would've had to trade away at least $67 million in contracts this year (not including other factors) with nothing in return just to be able to OFFER LeBron a max contract. It would still after all that (which would've been about an impossible of a task as I can think of) be completely up to LeBron.
That's not being defensive. Being defensive is where you take offense at something you view as a personal attack. I take none of this personally. I'm simply trying to understand how it works. A simple query of this would get you a response that you might make understand my motive better.

Do you see the difference?
 
Yes, it is prohibited. If a team is below the cap, they are only permitted to offer a free agent an amount up to the amount of their cap space. If they are over the cap, they can only offer the amount of an available cap exception. There are no cap exceptions that would permit Portland to offer Lebron $30M.
How does Golden State get away with it? They are way way over the cap.
 
How does Golden State get away with it? They are way way over the cap.
When they signed Durant, they weren't. Now that he's been on their squad for a couple years, they have an exception allowing them to give him a max deal. Other free agents they've signed (David West, Demarcus Cousins) have taken vastly below-market-value deals to sign with them.

Everyone that they have signed has either been with cap space or with a cap exception.
 
When they signed Durant, they weren't. Now that he's been on their squad for a couple years, they have an exception allowing them to give him a max deal. Other free agents they've signed (David West, Demarcus Cousins) have taken vastly below-market-value deals to sign with them.

Everyone that they have signed has either been with cap space or with a cap exception.
Pardon me for not understanding how this works but as I learned while building jumbo jets and nuclear missiles, if I don't ask, I'll never know. This means that I have to ignore being thought a fool and learn anyhow.
 
Pardon me for not understanding how this works but as I learned while building jumbo jets and nuclear missiles, if I don't ask, I'll never know. This means that I have to ignore being thought a fool and learn anyhow.
I never have a problem with people asking honest questions to gain understanding, even if I would normally assume NBA fans would have this as common knowledge.

If my responses came off as condescending at all, I apologize.
 
Not to derail too much but how GS came together gives me some hope. If Dame / CJ / Nurk have a great year say they make it to the wcf or even play really tough in the 2nd round. FA’s will be much more likely to come here and maybe even on the cheap.
 

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