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Bottom line. More laws and regulations for all gun owners. For criminals who don’t follow laws and rules anyway, the punishment needs to be so severe even the biggest dolts will reconsider. Like 1 strike and done. Wasn’t Rittenhouse 17 when this happened? How is this even a discussion? Kids get guns now? Cool cool.
Why do law abiding citizens who have never committed a crime get more laws and regulations? How is that going to help anything?

I've had my own shotgun since I was 11... Had a great time hunting duck, goose, grouse, pheasant, etc...
Never shot anybody with it though...
 
Why do law abiding citizens who have never committed a crime get more laws and regulations? How is that going to help anything?

I've had my own shotgun since I was 11... Had a great time hunting duck, goose, grouse, pheasant, etc...
Never shot anybody with it though...
Because we are talking about a deadly weapon. We don’t give 11 year olds drivers licenses. People acting like “hey it’s a blender, we all should be able to have a blender” when it’s a firearm that kills people - including the gun owners themselves many times. We need to start treating them as such. America thinks they have this stupid god given right to carry a gun around like it’s a cell phone. It’s stupid.
 
Because we are talking about a deadly weapon. We don’t give 11 year olds drivers licenses. People acting like “hey it’s a blender, we all should be able to have a blender” when it’s a firearm that kills people - including the gun owners themselves many times. We need to start treating them as such. America thinks they have this stupid god given right to carry a gun around like it’s a cell phone. It’s stupid.
11 year olds are not allowed to just carry guns around most places. We don't need additional laws for that.

In fact, most cities don't allow anybody to carry guns around on their person unless they have a permit.

Kids are not legally carrying guns around killing people. This is not a problem.

Legal gun owners have some of the lowest crime rates of anybody in the country. They are the last people who need more laws.
 
11 year olds are not allowed to just carry guns around most places. We don't need additional laws for that.

In fact, most cities don't allow anybody to carry guns around on their person unless they have a permit.

Kids are not legally carrying guns around killing people. This is not a problem.

Legal gun owners have some of the lowest crime rates of anybody in the country. They are the last people who need more laws.
I think I’d rather have an 11 year old carrying one than a 17 year old wannabe tough guy who is just itching to kill someone. Walking down the middle of a street draped over his shoulder like it’s a fucking purse.
 
I think I’d rather have an 11 year old carrying one than a 17 year old wannabe tough guy who is just itching to kill someone. Walking down the middle of a street draped over his shoulder like it’s a fucking purse.
I hear that. But you get fucked up behavior with riots. That's not a normal thing.

However, if you improve the gini coefficient you get fewer riots as well...
 
It’s astounding how ignorant some people can be, but hey if those are THEIR moral guidelines then at least they aren’t mine.

Getting away with this will be a win for all the people who desire to kill others with guns as it is opening an avenue for it to be acceptable to do so.

I didn’t realize that we wanted kids who cannot own a gun to play judge, jury, and executioner.

That old fart is saying that they would have sentenced all victims… I’m sorry “rioters and looters” to death for what they were doing?

Since when the f*** is going vendetta in violence acceptable behavior?

Quite literally anyone who thinks it is - should probably chiggidy check themselves.

If they can’t see what a horrible precedent this situation sets. Perhaps they aren’t morally/ethically qualified to hold their position.
 
It’s astounding how ignorant some people can be, but hey if those are THEIR moral guidelines then at least they aren’t mine.

Getting away with this will be a win for all the people who desire to kill others with guns as it is opening an avenue for it to be acceptable to do so.

I didn’t realize that we wanted kids who cannot own a gun to play judge, jury, and executioner.

That old fart is saying that they would have sentenced all victims… I’m sorry “rioters and looters” to death for what they were doing?

Since when the f*** is going vendetta in violence acceptable behavior?

Quite literally anyone who thinks it is - should probably chiggidy check themselves.

If they can’t see what a horrible precedent this situation sets. Perhaps they aren’t morally/ethically qualified to hold their position.

Like sorry man… The laws this kid violated. Sucks that he’s a kid. Mom should be charged equally. If she’s not then her kid should get it all. It should be life in prison. Maybe the kid can get out in 20 years with good behavior.

That’s to all the dummies who don’t realize that putting out fires and starting fires can look similar. You want Yosemite Sam deciding that your son/daughter deserved to die that night?

It’s really that straight forward

Dude it was premeditated murder 100%

They were looking to kill somebody, illegally crossed state lines and took the life of another using a weapon they were illegally in possession of, now they are looking to try to convince people that was okay.
 
It’s astounding how ignorant some people can be, but hey if those are THEIR moral guidelines then at least they aren’t mine.

Getting away with this will be a win for all the people who desire to kill others with guns as it is opening an avenue for it to be acceptable to do so.

I didn’t realize that we wanted kids who cannot own a gun to play judge, jury, and executioner.

That old fart is saying that they would have sentenced all victims… I’m sorry “rioters and looters” to death for what they were doing?

Since when the f*** is going vendetta in violence acceptable behavior?

Quite literally anyone who thinks it is - should probably chiggidy check themselves.

If they can’t see what a horrible precedent this situation sets. Perhaps they aren’t morally/ethically qualified to hold their position.

They didn’t get shot for rioting, they got shot for attacking a guy with a gun. Sometimes being stupid gets you killed, it’s unfortunate. Kyle Rittenhouse was one of the stupid ones that day who could’ve been shot, and it looks like he nearly was. He happened to be the dummy with the quicker draw, and will probably get off on self defense for it. When it’s kill or be killed, you probably shouldn’t stand there. Yes, NOT bringing guns to a riot would’ve prevented this, but Rittenhouse and two of the people he shot wanted to play that game.
 
Dude it was premeditated murder 100%

No, it wasn’t. He didn’t know any of those people prior to that night. He didn’t fire a round until there was a gun pointed at him. Two of the people he shot were armed, just like him. You clearly have been paying zero attention to this case if you’re actually running with this.
 
It’s astounding how ignorant some people can be, but hey if those are THEIR moral guidelines then at least they aren’t mine.

Getting away with this will be a win for all the people who desire to kill others with guns as it is opening an avenue for it to be acceptable to do so.

I didn’t realize that we wanted kids who cannot own a gun to play judge, jury, and executioner.

That old fart is saying that they would have sentenced all victims… I’m sorry “rioters and looters” to death for what they were doing?

Since when the f*** is going vendetta in violence acceptable behavior?

Quite literally anyone who thinks it is - should probably chiggidy check themselves.

If they can’t see what a horrible precedent this situation sets. Perhaps they aren’t morally/ethically qualified to hold their position.
But what law was violated, and where is the evidence to support that? If he actually violated laws I'm all for punishing him to the max.
 
I'm not even sure it's the money from gun lobbyists, more that the members of the NRA vote however the NRA says they should.
Good grief, do you really think that? A politicians job is to get elected/reelected and in this country you can't do that without a whole lot of money to run ads for yourself on TV & social media... thats not an opinion. The Supreme Court created this money dependent dynamic with Buckley v Valeo & Citizens United decisions among others. A vast majority of Americans are for all sorts of gun reform laws, but the NRA puts it's considerable funds (including Russian laundered $) against anyone who backs doing so.

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But what law was violated, and where is the evidence to support that? If he actually violated laws I'm all for punishing him to the max.
If someone points a gun at you, they are breaking the law. According to multiple eyewitnesses & photographic evidence, the defendant did exactly that in the lead up to the melee.

In closing arguments, prosecutor Thomas Binger said Rittenhouse was a “wannabe soldier” and was “looking for trouble that night.” Binger repeatedly showed the jury drone video that he said depicted Rittenhouse pointing the AR-style weapon at demonstrators. “This is the provocation. This is what starts this incident,” the prosecutor declared. He told the jury: “You lose the right to self-defense when you’re the one who brought the gun, when you are the one creating the danger, when you’re the one provoking other people.”


https://apnews.com/article/kyle-rit...sha-homicide-a5ee515a50f77ea4993bf7176859ef57

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If someone points a gun at you, they are breaking the law. According to multiple eyewitnesses & photographic evidence, the defendant did exactly that in the lead up to the melee.

In closing arguments, prosecutor Thomas Binger said Rittenhouse was a “wannabe soldier” and was “looking for trouble that night.” Binger repeatedly showed the jury drone video that he said depicted Rittenhouse pointing the AR-style weapon at demonstrators. “This is the provocation. This is what starts this incident,” the prosecutor declared. He told the jury: “You lose the right to self-defense when you’re the one who brought the gun, when you are the one creating the danger, when you’re the one provoking other people.”


https://apnews.com/article/kyle-rit...sha-homicide-a5ee515a50f77ea4993bf7176859ef57

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If that evidence actually exists and is discernable, and he actually did advance on them first with his gun drawn I'd definitely support sending him to prison.
 
Good grief, do you really think that? A politicians job is to get elected/reelected and in this country you can't do that without a whole lot of money to run ads for yourself on TV & social media... thats not an opinion. The Supreme Court created this money dependent dynamic with Buckley v Valeo & Citizens United decisions among others. A vast majority of Americans are for all sorts of gun reform laws, but the NRA puts it's considerable funds (including Russian laundered $) against anyone who backs doing so.

STOMP
Do I believe that people vote however the NRA tells them? Yes, absolutely.

I didn't say citizens united was a good thing. Just that in the case of the NRA I'm not sure there was enough money involved to make as big of an impact as their voice and the votes they control.
 
Bottom line. More laws and regulations for all gun owners. For criminals who don’t follow laws and rules anyway, the punishment needs to be so severe even the biggest dolts will reconsider. Like 1 strike and done. Wasn’t Rittenhouse 17 when this happened? How is this even a discussion? Kids get guns now? Cool cool.

You sell a gun to someone who uses it to kill people there should be consquences, especially private and gun show sales.

No longer get to sell guns? Partially responsible for what happens with said guns?
 
11 year olds are not allowed to just carry guns around most places. We don't need additional laws for that.

In fact, most cities don't allow anybody to carry guns around on their person unless they have a permit.

Kids are not legally carrying guns around killing people. This is not a problem.

Legal gun owners have some of the lowest crime rates of anybody in the country. They are the last people who need more laws.

Apparently, kids in Wisconsin can carry guns around as long as the barrell is long enough
 
Apparently, kids in Wisconsin can carry guns around as long as the barrell is long enough
If you're in an area where hunting is allowed kids can carry guns in Oregon as well.
But they have to have a hunting license which requires a hunters safety course, including gun safety.

But in Oregon you aren't allowed to be hunting after dark, so you would not be allowed to carry loaded, from my recollection... It's actually been a while since I have been hunting.
 
You sell a gun to someone who uses it to kill people there should be consquences, especially private and gun show sales.

No longer get to sell guns? Partially responsible for what happens with said guns?
How can you possibly know what somebody is going to do with something they buy from you? 99% of guns sold are never used in any crime, let alone to kill somebody.

This makes absolutely no sense. Am I responsible if I sell a car to somebody who runs over a crowd of people? What about fertilizer, if somebody makes a bomb?

I'm sorry, but that's completely unreasonable.
 
If you're in an area where hunting is allowed kids can carry guns in Oregon as well.
But they have to have a hunting license which requires a hunters safety course, including gun safety.

But in Oregon you aren't allowed to be hunting after dark, so you would not be allowed to carry loaded, from my recollection... It's actually been a while since I have been hunting.

In Wisconsin none of that matters. That judge said so.
 
How can you possibly know what somebody is going to do with something they buy from you? 99% of guns sold are never used in any crime, let alone to kill somebody.

This makes absolutely no sense. Am I responsible if I sell a car to somebody who runs over a crowd of people? What about fertilizer, if somebody makes a bomb?

I'm sorry, but that's completely unreasonable.

You can be careful who you sell it to, if you are a private owner. Gun shows in some states don't give two damns who buy their guns, they hawk them like a sham wow on home shopping network. I think there needs to be more responsibility there.

You can talk with someone to decide if they come across responsible.

No selling of guns in gun shows to people out of state.

You can't always know. But, there are ways to help not put guns in bad people's hands.
 
It's going to be open season there. They should probably write the law clearer, but republicans are in charge, so that's not happening.
Yeah, if we really wanted to solve this problem to the best of our abilities we'd address it reasonably at a national level. But neither side wants to be reasonable so this is what we get.

No matter what law you have, if a 17 year old with no priors defends themselves from armed adult attackers the 17 year old is going to get off 95% of the time. Unless there is very good evidence that the 17 year old was actively the aggressor the kid is going to get the benefit of the doubt. Unless they kill a cop.
 
You can be careful who you sell it to, if you are a private owner. Gun shows in some states don't give two damns who buy their guns, they hawk them like a sham wow on home shopping network. I think there needs to be more responsibility there.

You can talk with someone to decide if they come across responsible.

No selling of guns in gun shows to people out of state.

You can't always know. But, there are ways to help not put guns in bad people's hands.
That's just not true though. Every gun show I've ever been to requires a background check to sell a firearm. That background check prevents gun shows from selling (at least, hand guns) to out of state buyers.
 
That's just not true though. Every gun show I've ever been to requires a background check to sell a firearm. That background check prevents gun shows from selling (at least, hand guns) to out of state buyers.

100% true. The gun show loophole is old news and background checks have been required at them for quite some time now. And buying out of state hasn’t been a thing since probably before I was born.
 
It's going to be open season there. They should probably write the law clearer, but republicans are in charge, so that's not happening.

Open season is in liberal-run cities across the nation where criminals aren’t punished for committing crimes, not in Wisconsin.
 
If you're in an area where hunting is allowed kids can carry guns in Oregon as well.
But they have to have a hunting license which requires a hunters safety course, including gun safety.

But in Oregon you aren't allowed to be hunting after dark, so you would not be allowed to carry loaded, from my recollection... It's actually been a while since I have been hunting.
Ok but let’s make sure if “hunting” is the excuse for having the gun that person is in the forest/area for animal hunting, not in a street full of people.
 
I love guns.

But I think the world would be a better place if I was the only one who owned them.
 

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