Lebron on Dame

[BBert]

So we are getting LeBron and Pop to coach?

Sure. All we have to do is find a way to spike their wine.

 

[PDXFonz]

I have sources that can confirm they saw Lebron at PDX last night!

 

[riverman]

Lebron can go literally anywhere he wants...the Cavs didn't trade him at the deadline and he's a free agent so you don't have to give Cleveland anything if he walks...there would be no reason to gut the roster..he wants to come to a team with talent...it would mean Paul Allen was willing to go Cleveland deep into the luxury tax to sign him and keep enough talent around him to make him want to stay...if he's nice, he'll help the Cavs with a sign and trade deal but he doesn't have to. He could do a Lamarcus on them....I read somewhere there was bad blood between him and ET...not sure how that plays out.

 

[Cippy91]

Lebron can go literally anywhere he wants...the Cavs didn't trade him at the deadline and he's a free agent so you don't have to give Cleveland anything if he walks...there would be no reason to gut the roster..he wants to come to a team with talent...it would mean Paul Allen was willing to go Cleveland deep into the luxury tax to sign him and keep enough talent around him to make him want to stay...if he's nice, he'll help the Cavs with a sign and trade deal but he doesn't have to. He could do a Lamarcus on them....I read somewhere there was bad blood between him and ET...not sure how that plays out.

This. I don't know why Lebron would stay after this year but he might. He can do anything he wants. If he wanted to go to a certain team, they would make it work no matter what. I highly doubt he comes to Portland. There are just so many other options on the table.

 

[BonesJones]

There is no such thing as a lower hard cap. There is the actual salary cap but a hard cap means you can't go over for any reason, even if you use exceptions or bird rights. All other circumstances this summer the Blazers could pay whatever they wanted to their free agents, use the Trade Exceptions, and the tax-MLE.

They do NOT want to be hard capped.

They would turn down LeBron in order to not be hard capped huh?

 

[PHXBlazer1]

So tonight is the last time to see LeBron at the Moda as a visitor

 

[hoopsjock]

They would turn down LeBron in order to not be hard capped huh?

Bones: You are misunderstanding what I am trying to say. Sign and trades no matter who the player is are not a realistic option this off season. Being hard capped with only half the roster filled is practically an impossible situation.

 

[Scalma]

I’d like to know if that $129m hard cap is actually true. Warriors and Cavs both have payrolls of $130m+

If we’re hard capped at $129m, how the fuck are we going to even re-sign our FAs, nevermind Lebron?

 

[hoopsjock]

I’d like to know if that $129m hard cap is actually true. Warriors and Cavs both have payrolls of $130m+

Scalma: The hard cap is only triggered with a sign-and-trade OR using the full-MLE and Bi-Annual Exception when over the cap. You can go as far over the "hard cap" if you aren't hard capped.

For example, the Blazers could in theory have a payroll over $175 million next year (keep everyone guaranteed, sign Davis to $10m, Napier to $10m, Nurk to $20m, PC to $5m, use both trade exceptions, and the tax-MLE). I know those numbers probably/hopefully aren't accurate for what those guys would sign for just showing that they could if they wanted to.

Just for the sake of showing how the hard cap works, lets say that the Cavs and LeBron agreed to a sign-and-trade max deal for Turner, Aminu, Leonard, and a 1st. Max deal for his level of service is estimated at about $35 million per year which is almost exactly what those three we'd be trading them equal. So real rough estimate this is what we'd be left with since that would trigger the hard cap (estimated at $129 but could be more or less depending on what the final tax number is):

Roughly $110 million guaranteed with just Dame, CJ, LeBron, Collins, Swanigan, and Harkless on the roster. That means they'd have 8 roster spots that they'd have to fill and cannot go over the $129 million at any point during the 2018-19 season under for any reason. So this means all of our own free agents would have to sign for pennies or we could let them all walk and use the full-MLE and the BAE with minimum contracts to round out the remaining 6 spots. I guess that might be worth getting LeBron but it would put us in a very tough position.

In brighter news, LeBron's contract increases combined with an expected minimal jump in the salary cap this summer makes his contract one of the extremely rare cases where his max salary for opting into his contract is actually a few hundred thousand more than opting out and signing a new one. So if we made that exact same trade above (once again just an example, I know the Cavs wouldn't do that) with him opting into his contract it wouldn't be a sign-and-trade and then we would be in prime position to keep everyone and add talent with the TPE and tax-MLE since the hard cap wouldn't apply.

 

[Scalma]

Scalma: The hard cap is only triggered with a sign-and-trade OR using the full-MLE and Bi-Annual Exception when over the cap. You can go as far over the "hard cap" if you aren't hard capped.

For example, the Blazers could in theory have a payroll over $175 million next year (keep everyone guaranteed, sign Davis to $10m, Napier to $10m, Nurk to $20m, PC to $5m, use both trade exceptions, and the tax-MLE). I know those numbers probably/hopefully aren't accurate for what those guys would sign for just showing that they could if they wanted to.

Just for the sake of showing how the hard cap works, lets say that the Cavs and LeBron agreed to a sign-and-trade max deal for Turner, Aminu, Leonard, and a 1st. Max deal for his level of service is estimated at about $35 million per year which is almost exactly what those three we'd be trading them equal. So real rough estimate this is what we'd be left with since that would trigger the hard cap (estimated at $129 but could be more or less depending on what the final tax number is):

Roughly $110 million guaranteed with just Dame, CJ, LeBron, Collins, Swanigan, and Harkless on the roster. That means they'd have 8 roster spots that they'd have to fill and cannot go over the $129 million at any point during the 2018-19 season under for any reason. So this means all of our own free agents would have to sign for pennies or we could let them all walk and use the full-MLE and the BAE with minimum contracts to round out the remaining 6 spots. I guess that might be worth getting LeBron but it would put us in a very tough position.

In brighter news, LeBron's contract increases combined with an expected minimal jump in the salary cap this summer makes his contract one of the extremely rare cases where his max salary for opting into his contract is actually a few hundred thousand more than opting out and signing a new one. So if we made that exact same trade above (once again just an example, I know the Cavs wouldn't do that) with him opting into his contract it wouldn't be a sign-and-trade and then we would be in prime position to keep everyone and add talent with the TPE and tax-MLE since the hard cap wouldn't apply.

Thanks for helping the idiot.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Pinwheel1]

Yeah selling LBJ that he would be our 3rd option seems like a good idea.......

 

[Scalma]

Yeah selling LBJ that he would be our 3rd option seems like a good idea.......

Hopefully he has a better sense of humor than some..

 

[Lukee]

Dame really loves Bron.

 

[hoopsjock]

Thanks for helping the idiot.

Scalma, you definitely aren't an idiot. This shit is very complicated. I actually try to read and understand the CBA but there are parts where I'm like "Huh, this makes no sense!"

 

[Orion Bailey]

Thanks for helping the idiot.

THe idiots.