"Lefty" Bitching About Taxes

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I would fucking shit if I had to pay 63% of my earnings per year. I'm bitching at the 43% I'm paying now.

Think about it this way. If you could afford it; would you be fine with paying 63% of your earnings?

In perspective... Let's say you make 10k gross per month. Your cost of living is around 3.5k. The government says "Hey you can afford 63% taxes because your cost of living is only 35% of your total earnings." You still have 2% savings of your wages.

Part of your cost of living would result in deductions, thereby lowering your tax liability.

At $10K, that would obviously suck. But if I'm making millions of dollars (let alone for doing practically nothing), I wouldn't be shitting myself and bitching to the public while many others are struggling to make a living.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Another thing. Lefty should not have apologized for his comments. No one should have to pay that % in taxes.

 

[magnifier661]

I'd rather make 50 million and pay 60% than 50k and pay 30%, so yes I'd be fine with it.

What would you rather take in gross? 270k or 220k?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Gerald Dipardu or whatever his name is moving from france for the same reason. the tax hike didn't even go through but he sees the writing on the wall. If you think these hikes are the final resolutions to solve a problem, they're not...its just the first step.

They're going to keep on going up and up and its going to get to a point where its not even worth working or investing, because most of it will be for nothing.

 

[magnifier661]

Part of your cost of living would result in deductions, thereby lowering your tax liability.

At $10K, that would obviously suck. But if I'm making millions of dollars (let alone for doing practically nothing), I wouldn't be shitting myself and bitching to the public while many others are struggling to make a living.

There isn't much you can write off when you make that amount of money. I have 3 houses and it does very little to my bottom line. There is a ceiling of amount of taxes you can deduct. I can't even get child credit for dependents; even though I pay over $6k per month in child support; having 50% custody of my kids.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

There isn't much you can right off when you make that amount of money. I have 3 houses and it does very little to my bottom line. There is a ceiling of amount of taxes you can deduct. I can't even get child credit for dependents; even though I pay over $6k per month in child support; having 50% custody of my kids.

At $10K/month, as your example cited? At a gross of $10K, you're doing something wrong if you're losing out on that many deductions.

I'm pretty sure your example, and as the tax situation applies to you, would be comparining apples and oranges. I'm strictly talking the parameters of the example provided, you've switched to talk about your personal stuff, which is very different from the example provided.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

my point is, that phil mickleson, the "everyman" of the pga, who makes his money off endorsing things to middle class people, should probably stop whining about only bringing home 20 million dollars a year, lest he be viewed as out of touch and damage his pitchman earnings

 

[magnifier661]

At $10K/month, as your example cited? At a gross of $10K, you're doing something wrong if you're losing out on that many deductions.

I'm pretty sure your example, and as the tax situation applies to you, would be comparining apples and oranges. I'm strictly talking the parameters of the example provided, you've switched to talk about your personal stuff, which is very different from the example provided.

I don't make 10k a month. I make much more than that.

And yeah I switched it up to talk about personal. Sorry if it confused.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

my point is, that phil mickleson, the "everyman" of the pga, who makes his money off endorsing things to middle class people, should probably stop whining about only bringing home 20 million dollars a year, lest he be viewed as out of touch and damage his pitchman earnings

Exactly. He's being given free money just to endorse a product and say he uses it. Said companies sell products to people who care that their favorite athlete uses the product. So, he's being taxed on free money. If it weren't for us consuming his products, he wouldn't be making the money, and he wouldn't be taxed on that money he's not making. So now, he's bitching to essentially the same people that pay him.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Its not free money. He earned that by finding a unique niche he was good at and turning that into a marketable skill.

If it were truly free money, you or I could make the same without doing any additional work.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

well its not free money by any means, but whining to espn about it is just silly and misguided

 

[speeds]

Man-boobs should move to Monte Carlo where the tennis players and race car drivers live.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Its not free money. He earned that by finding a unique niche he was good at and turning that into a marketable skill.

If it were truly free money, you or I could make the same without doing any additional work.

Because Michael Jordan being good at basketball somehow makes Hanes more marketable?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

it takes a sturdy underwear to cage in a wild python like jordan

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Because Michael Jordan being good at basketball somehow makes Hanes more marketable?

Michael Jordan excelling at his craft enabled him to be sought after by companies for endorsement. People seem to be writing off the process to get successful and mainly focus on the jealousy of his wealth and his need to account for his own money, as if Mickleson fell ass backwards into making $50m a year.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Michael Jordan excelling at his craft enabled him to be sought after by companies for endorsement. People seem to be writing off the process to get successful and mainly focus on the jealousy of his wealth and his need to account for his own money, as if Mickleson fell ass backwards into making $50m a year.

I'm just being a smartass.

I just find it so ironic that he's bitching so publicly about taxes. He's great at what he does. But without the general public placing a value on that skill, he'd be unknown. Without us placing a value on the products he endorses, he wouldn't be making that money. Meanwhile, the general public is struggling financially. So he's not only preaching to the choir, but he's biting the hand that feeds him, all at the same time.

And that apology? I bet he apologized because he just realized that bitching about taxes isn't going to help him win fans (or additional endorsements). So there's more cash out of his pocket.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I'm just being a smartass.

I just find it so ironic that he's bitching so publicly about taxes. He's great at what he does. But without the general public placing a value on that skill, he'd be unknown. Without us placing a value on the products he endorses, he wouldn't be making that money. Meanwhile, the general public is struggling financially. So he's not only preaching to the choir, but he's biting the hand that feeds him, all at the same time.

And that apology? I bet he apologized because he just realized that bitching about taxes isn't going to help him win fans (or additional endorsements). So there's more cash out of his pocket.

If you were being taxed 60% of what you made, even if you made a billion dollars, you would probably explore opportunities to lower that burden.

And seriously, this is "bitching"? This is "biting the hand that feeds him"? Sounds pretty fucking level headed if you ask me. What's he supposed to say, "these higher taxes rock, I'm going to take them up the ass and enjoy it!"

"And I'm going to have to make some drastic changes. I'm not going to jump the gun and do it right away, but I will be making some drastic changes."

"I'm not sure what exactly I'm going to do yet," Mickelson said. "I'll probably talk about it more in depth next week. I'm not going to jump the gun, but there are going to be some. There are going to be some drastic changes for me because I happen to be in that zone that has been targeted both federally and by the state and it doesn't work for me right now."

"If you add up all the federal and you look at the disability and the unemployment and the Social Security and the state, my tax rate's 62, 63 percent," Mickelson said. "So I've got to make some decisions on what I'm going to do."

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

He ain't the best - he should pay more in taxes for being choking during big golf moments!

He probably sits on the top 15 of all time list. I'd say that's not too bad.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I'd rather make 50 million and pay 60% than 50k and pay 30%, so yes I'd be fine with it.

I get that line of thinking from a practical standpoint, but that doesn't make it fair. Your point is that since they have plenty of money left over then the taxation becomes "fair". I'll disagree. Regardless of oncome, being taxed over 60% just isn't right.

 

[magnifier661]

If you were being taxed 60% of what you made, even if you made a billion dollars, you would probably explore opportunities to lower that burden.

And seriously, this is "bitching"? This is "biting the hand that feeds him"? Sounds pretty fucking level headed if you ask me. What's he supposed to say, "these higher taxes rock, I'm going to take them up the ass and enjoy it!"

Yeah I don't really get it man. It's easy to say that you would have no problem paying 63% of your gross on taxes when you aren't paying that amount. And it's easy to say it wouldn't be hard to pay that amount when you have x million dollars still left.

When you are being raped on your earnings, it doesn't matter what you can afford. There is nothing "acceptible" about it. And with this cat, he can still make the same amount, but be charged much less in taxes just moving out of the country. So what? He needs to be patriotic and pay his taxes because the people paying 20% say so? LMAO!

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

What's really ironic is that the vast majority of singers and actors that support the higher taxes garbage funnel the vast amount of their earnings thru their own out of the country production companies where they aren't taxed at all. Professional athletes don't have that option.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

If you were being taxed 60% of what you made, even if you made a billion dollars, you would probably explore opportunities to lower that burden.

And seriously, this is "bitching"? This is "biting the hand that feeds him"? Sounds pretty fucking level headed if you ask me. What's he supposed to say, "these higher taxes rock, I'm going to take them up the ass and enjoy it!"

Common sense says, "Yes, I'm going to look to ways to save money." That's just common sense - who doesn't do that? So, I commend you for having common sense.

The dumb thing is bitching in the media. Why? What was the point? To gain sympathy from the US population? Even he acknowledged it was dumb - he came out with an apology today.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

He probably sits on the top 15 of all time list. I'd say that's not too bad.

Well, yeah. I mean, he's part of the current generation of golfers, which certainly helps since pay is far more significant these days. I'd say he's probably top-5 or even top-3 (mayber top-2???). He's been around for quite some time, which is an accomplishment in and of itself. And he's won some big tourney's (after years of known for disappearing in the big moments, which is where my comment came from). He's certainly one of the better golfers of his generation.

Was actually a pretty big Mickelson fan for several years. But I became less of a fan by some of the boneheaded things he'd say over the years. And then he does it again.

 

[oldguy]

Yeah I don't really get it man. It's easy to say that you would have no problem paying 63% of your gross on taxes when you aren't paying that amount. And it's easy to say it wouldn't be hard to pay that amount when you have x million dollars still left.

When you are being raped on your earnings, it doesn't matter what you can afford. There is nothing "acceptible" about it. And with this cat, he can still make the same amount, but be charged much less in taxes just moving out of the country. So what? He needs to be patriotic and pay his taxes because the 47% of people paying 0% say so? LMAO!

FIFY

 

[magnifier661]

Common sense says, "Yes, I'm going to look to ways to save money." That's just common sense - who doesn't do that? So, I commend you for having common sense.

The dumb thing is bitching in the media. Why? What was the point? To gain sympathy from the US population? Even he acknowledged it was dumb - he came out with an apology today.

What's dumb is when people paying 20% taxes to say that paying 63% of your taxes should be fine if you make millions of dollars.

What's dumb is to say that having sex with a condom is just as good as without when you've never had sex without.

What's dumb is when you think that Chevy Chase was funnier after he quit doing coke.

Ask all the people paying 63% taxes and ask them if they think it's fair.

 

[magnifier661]

FIFY

Hahahaha! Good one.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Yeah I don't really get it man. It's easy to say that you would have no problem paying 63% of your gross on taxes when you aren't paying that amount. And it's easy to say it wouldn't be hard to pay that amount when you have x million dollars still left.

When you are being raped on your earnings, it doesn't matter what you can afford. There is nothing "acceptible" about it. And with this cat, he can still make the same amount, but be charged much less in taxes just moving out of the country. So what? He needs to be patriotic and pay his taxes because the people paying 20% say so? LMAO!

He's paying to protect the country/world/economy that enabled him to earn that kind of money and bless you with the life that he has. I understand wanting to figure out a way to strategize to keep more money in your pocket - that's part of what this country/world/economy allows for. But to sit there and bitch - go do something about it. But don't act like the system is screwing you because you made a whole helluva lotta money through the system, so embrace it.

I laugh at such feelings of entitlement people have sometimes.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

What's dumb is when people paying 20% taxes to say that paying 63% of your taxes should be fine if you make millions of dollars.

What's dumb is to say that having sex with a condom is just as good as without when you've never had sex without.

What's dumb is when you think that Chevy Chase was funnier after he quit doing coke.

Ask all the people paying 63% taxes and ask them if they think it's fair.

What's a condom?

 

[magnifier661]

He's paying to protect the country/world/economy that enabled him to earn that kind of money and bless you with the life that he has. I understand wanting to figure out a way to strategize to keep more money in your pocket - that's part of what this country/world/economy allows for. But to sit there and bitch - go do something about it. But don't act like the system is screwing you because you made a whole helluva lotta money through the system, so embrace it.

I laugh at such feelings of entitlement people have sometimes.

What if the government decided to tax the 47% that pay zero in taxes, 63%? What if they say, you must pay your fair share. Would they be wrong to bitch if it passed?

 

[magnifier661]

What's a condom?

condom |ˈkändəm, ˈkən-| noun
a thin rubber sheath worn on a man's penis during sexual intercourse as a contraceptive or as protection against infection.