Leonard vs Parsons vs Ryan Anderson

[BlayZa]

Are you from 1984?

Those players are out of the league or ineffective.

I want whoever gives us the best chance to win.

No doubt im more of a traditional role guy. but if were really talking about stretch 4's and being fine with avg D, rebounds, blocks from the PF position, we should just start aminu there and run crabbe at SF.

 

[Draco]

No doubt im more of a traditional role guy. but if were really talking about stretch 4's and being fine with avg D, rebounds, blocks from the PF position, we should just start aminu there and run crabbe at SF.

Yeah I think Aminu is just as good if not better as a 4. We need an upgraded forward; Aminu can help as a role player at either spot. I'm not sure about Crabbe he's there with Dame as the worst defender on the team so I think we need more defense out of a starter.

 

[PHXBlazer1]

Just got an alert on my phone that Parsons is likely to undergo season-ending surgery for a torn meniscus. I have a feeling that might change a few opinions around here...

 

[Cippy91]

Yup

 

[Cippy91]

This is what I was saying about chandler. Despite him playing very good ball while he was back, he seems very injury prone and that's a no no in blazer land

 

[Sinobas]

Just got an alert on my phone that Parsons is likely to undergo season-ending surgery for a torn meniscus. I have a feeling that might change a few opinions around here...

Though I wonder if it will sway Cuban from giving him the max.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Is Chandler Parson's one of those with any opt-out clause or is he a straight free agent? If he has opt-out he might not use it now. If he is a free agent he basically has to come off our board but with that injury a team might get him for cheaper than max now.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Is Chandler Parson's one of those with any opt-out clause or is he a straight free agent? If he has opt-out he might not use it now. If he is a free agent he basically has to come off our board but with that injury a team might get him for cheaper than max now.

He has a player option for the 2016-17 season according to Spotrac.

 

[Sinobas]

DeRozen is another target, but I think the Raptors will just give him the max. I don't know if he has any reason to want to leave Toronto and come here?

 

[Natebishop3]

 

[speeds]

DeRozen is another target, but I think the Raptors will just give him the max. I don't know if he has any reason to want to leave Toronto and come here?

Rumours for a few years that the Lakers want him. He's from Compton. Probably grew up wanting to be a Laker. Toronto will give him the max but the Lakers might be an attractive option for him if he wants to leave. I doubt Portland is on his radar.

 

[Tunchi]

Rumours for a few years that the Lakers want him. He's from Compton. Probably grew up wanting to be a Laker. Toronto will give him the max but the Lakers might be an attractive option for him if he wants to leave. I doubt Portland is on his radar.

Totally agree Portland is def the last option on his mind. Hes either resigning or going home..

 

[Pinwheel1]

Totally agree Portland is def the last option on his mind. Hes either resigning or going home..

That is my view as well and why I thought our best chance was to trade for him last summer. Regardless I never thought we would get Parsons or DeRosan this summer. And I am not that disappointed in it. Not that they aren't both better than what we have at SF
now, but I am just not convinced that either are perfect fits with Dame and CJ. Not sure I want to throw a max at either.

 

[Sinobas]

Are DeRozen and Lillard friends though? I can see him not wanting to go to a loser like LA.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Are DeRozen and Lillard friends though? I can see him not wanting to go to a loser like LA.

If I am the Clippers I trade Blake Griffin for a young player and cap space to make room for DeRosan. I don't think Griffin and Deandre Jordan fit well together. Maybe to Boston?

 

[Sinobas]

I think Ryan Anderson would be a nice addition to this team. I just imagine him getting the same looks Meyers and Aminu get. Meyers is hesitant to shoot unless he's like wide wide open, and Aminu is sub-par. Anderson also has a nice mid-range game, gets to the foul line, doesn't foul or commit as many turnovers as Meyers, and is a decent rebounder. I'd take him over Meyers any day.

 

[Sinobas]

If I am the Clippers I trade Blake Griffin for a young player and cap space to make room for DeRosan. I don't think Griffin and Deandre Jordan fit well together. Maybe to Boston?

I think I'd rather offer the max to Horford.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I think I'd rather offer the max to Horford.

I would be on board with that. He may not be spectacular, but he is solid.

 

[jlprk]

Just got an alert on my phone that Parsons is likely to undergo season-ending surgery for a torn meniscus. I have a feeling that might change a few opinions around here...

Shades of Wesley Matthews!

I agree. I'd rather go after Batum any day of the week. He's a capable outside scorer with defensive and ball handling ability.

The old guy can yell from the bench in French to Montero about what he's doing wrong. When he's not waving towels to get the crowd loud.

 

[Draco]

That is my view as well and why I thought our best chance was to trade for him last summer. Regardless I never thought we would get Parsons or DeRosan this summer. And I am not that disappointed in it. Not that they aren't both better than what we have at SF
now, but I am just not convinced that either are perfect fits with Dame and CJ. Not sure I want to throw a max at either.

Sure it would've been nice to get DeRozen; but he doesn't come for free. Are you giving up a good asset such as a first round pick? At the time it might've even cost us CJ which many here probably would've done and now would be a disaster.

It didn't make any sense for a rebuilding team to acquire a free agent rental who could walk in a few months shortly after LMA left. Those are moves you make when you have a chance to contend.

 

[Draco]

I think Ryan Anderson would be a nice addition to this team. I just imagine him getting the same looks Meyers and Aminu get. Meyers is hesitant to shoot unless he's like wide wide open, and Aminu is sub-par. Anderson also has a nice mid-range game, gets to the foul line, doesn't foul or commit as many turnovers as Meyers, and is a decent rebounder. I'd take him over Meyers any day.

Ryan Anderson, Al Horford, Demar DeRozan, Nic Batum. We'd probably sign any of those guys if they're willing to come.

They all likely stay put and cash in a 5th year. Were talking about $158 million contracts if they stay. Players know they can always force their way off a team via trade if they become unhappy.

Yeah many will point to LaMarcus and DeAndre taking a year less; but that was only $100 million deals. $58 million since the cap has gone up is a significant difference.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Sure it would've been nice to get DeRozen; but he doesn't come for free. Are you giving up a good asset such as a first round pick? At the time it might've even cost us CJ which many here probably would've done and now would be a disaster.

It didn't make any sense for a rebuilding team to acquire a free agent rental who could walk in a few months shortly after LMA left. Those are moves you make when you have a chance to contend.

That is all true. Although for the most part that was not the argument used for not going after him last summer. Most argued that he just wasn't that good.

As it turns out we might be better off re-signing Henderson. I am not saying he is as good as DeRosan, but he will come cheaper and he offers a lot of similar skills.......off the bench.

 

[Cippy91]

It's funny that we got rid of a guy we kinda need now. Got rid of batum basically for vonleh because I don't think Henderson is staying here after this year. With all the options out there I honestly would of rather kept batum. We strike out with free agents. Derozan ain't coming here. Anderson is possible. I honestly wouldn't mind making an offer to batum. I don't think it will happen but he knows the system, he loved the city and embraced the fans. I don't think he wanted to leave. He's playing great with Charlotte and yeah you can say contract year but still, he's a playmaker, can score, defense. Only downside we all know is he can be inconsistent. Either way I would rather have him over aminu. Aminu is a bench sf. Dude also needs to learn he's not shooting 50 percent from three. If only aminu would learn how to handle the ball and drive, he would be a big threat.

 

[Pinwheel1]

It's funny that we got rid of a guy we kinda need now. Got rid of batum basically for vonleh because I don't think Henderson is staying here after this year. With all the options out there I honestly would of rather kept batum. We strike out with free agents. .

I don't see how you can say "basically for Vonleh". Henderson and Batum are in the exact same contract situation. Why would we think Batum would not try to bolt this summer as a FA when the last time he was a free agent it got so ugly.

When we had Wes, we needed Batum to act a s facilitator. Charlotte with their guards also need Batum in that role. But now having a SG like CJ, a play making SF is not what we need. Would Batum still try to run the offense? Is he still afraid to attack the basket?
I agree that Aminu is not the answer as a starter, but if you take away the need for Batum to feed the post, (Since we didn't have a post scorer this season) is Batum that much better than Crabbe?

The trade made sense to me. Henderson is as good as Batum. Vonleh may or may not turn out to be good, but he is just as talented as most first round picks this year outside the top 8. So I think it was worth the gamble.

 

[Draco]

I don't see how you can say "basically for Vonleh". Henderson and Batum are in the exact same contract situation. Why would we think Batum would not try to bolt this summer as a FA when the last time he was a free agent it got so ugly.

When we had Wes, we needed Batum to act a s facilitator. Charlotte with their guards also need Batum in that role. But now having a SG like CJ, a play making SF is not what we need. Would Batum still try to run the offense? Is he still afraid to attack the basket?
I agree that Aminu is not the answer as a starter, but if you take away the need for Batum to feed the post, (Since we didn't have a post scorer this season) is Batum that much better than Crabbe?

The trade made sense to me. Henderson is as good as Batum. Vonleh may or may not turn out to be good, but he is just as talented as most first round picks this year outside the top 8. So I think it was worth the gamble.

The trade was all about adding an asset with value beyond a year as well as having a player with upside. Neither Batum nor Hendo had that value because they were becoming free agents. Neither one had significant upside either. We knew we wouldn't contend this year. Vonleh hasn't developed as we might've hoped but thats the chance you take with 20 year olds. Plumlee and CJ have performed better than expected. Vonleh and Meyers worse. That was the purpose of this season.

 

[BonesJones]

I don't see how you can say "basically for Vonleh". Henderson and Batum are in the exact same contract situation. Why would we think Batum would not try to bolt this summer as a FA when the last time he was a free agent it got so ugly.

When we had Wes, we needed Batum to act a s facilitator. Charlotte with their guards also need Batum in that role. But now having a SG like CJ, a play making SF is not what we need. Would Batum still try to run the offense? Is he still afraid to attack the basket?
I agree that Aminu is not the answer as a starter, but if you take away the need for Batum to feed the post, (Since we didn't have a post scorer this season) is Batum that much better than Crabbe?

The trade made sense to me. Henderson is as good as Batum. Vonleh may or may not turn out to be good, but he is just as talented as most first round picks this year outside the top 8. So I think it was worth the gamble.

We need a 3 and D SF which he is. He could also work as the secondary ball handler once CJ or Dame gets subbed out, which we need because Crabbe, Henderson, Aminu, and Harkless aren't ball handlers..

 

[Hobbesarable]

We need a 3 and D SF which he is. He could also work as the secondary ball handler once CJ or Dame gets subbed out, which we need because Crabbe, Henderson, Aminu, and Harkless aren't ball handlers..

Exactly. That and Batum is familiar with Stotts, Dame and the playbook. In addition, it'll enable Stotts to move Aminu to the 4 spot.

 

[Pinwheel1]

We need a 3 and D SF which he is. He could also work as the secondary ball handler once CJ or Dame gets subbed out, which we need because Crabbe, Henderson, Aminu, and Harkless aren't ball handlers..

As long as he doesn't force things. Nic tried too many tough passes to players who did not have the best of hands. Especially when he was in with the 2nd team. And yes I would be fine with him as a 3 and D guy if he just attacked the basket enough to keep the defense honest. I know he can do it, but the last year and a half with Portland...he just wouldn't. Afraid to re-injure something? Not sure what his issue was.

But I would take Nic back if he wanted to come back, but for the money he is going to get.....he better step up his game. And that means working on his deficiencies in the off season. I would let him play in the olympics this year, but after that......he needs to take a break from his French team.

 

[BBert]

I agree that Aminu is not the answer as a starter, but if you take away the need for Batum to feed the post, (Since we didn't have a post scorer this season) is Batum that much better than Crabbe?.

Yes. Batum is THAT MUCH BETTER than Crabbe. And Batum would be even better than he was, production and consistency wise, if we don't need him to feed the post. Batum can and will play whatever role he is assigned. My only apprehension with bringing back Batum, is that with Dame and CJ controlling the ball and taking all the shots, Batum may again find himself out of a scoring role and criticized for being "inconsistent".

 

[speeds]

Are DeRozen and Lillard friends though? I can see him not wanting to go to a loser like LA.

He's got a friend. If he moves, it will be for money.