Let's Say This Team Needed a "Scoring" Small Forward

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That is, someone who could become the team's 2nd or 3rd scoring option next season.

Who would you put at the top of the list that KP (or whomever is GM) could "reasonably" go after in a trade?

Me? I'd love to have Danny Granger. Might even trade LMA to get him.
 
Crap, wrong forum.
 
SF is the least of our worries. Batum, IMO, has this locked up for the next decade.

We need a scoring Center or a low post scoring PF.
 
Granger is entirely overvalued by the Pacer organization.

I think Maggette is a more realistic option.
 
SF is the least of our worries. Batum, IMO, has this locked up for the next decade.

We need a scoring Center or a low post scoring PF.

Amen. I'll take Nic's 51% shooting, 41% from three and 85% free throw shooting over quite a few chuckers in the league. Granger is really nice, but for what it would take to get him (a lot more than just LMA in my opinion) I'm not so sure the return would be worth it.
 
My long-term solution for a low post scorer:

demarcus-cousins-1-27.jpg


Now, how do we trade into the top-5? :devilwink:
 
My long-term solution for a low post scorer:

Now, how do we trade into the top-5? :devilwink:

I have no idea ... I will say this though, if KP could somehow parlay LMA, Greg and other picks or pieces into Cousins he'd be worth whatever supposed maturity and character risk he carries.
 
Maggete could be an option and more importantly could be available...

Provided POR isn't concerned about taking on his contract, I think he is a player whose team would realistically trade him....

good volume score and gets to the line a lot, not a good defender, but having Nate in his ear could help improve that...somewhat....
 
Not sure I would want to deal Oden or LA for Cousins.....
 
I have no idea ... I will say this though, if KP could somehow parlay LMA, Greg and other picks or pieces into Cousins he'd be worth whatever supposed maturity and character risk he carries.

You would trade Aldride, Greg and picks for Cousins? Is everybody really that down about Aldridge? Let alone including Greg and picks.
 
I have no idea ... I will say this though, if KP could somehow parlay LMA, Greg and other picks or pieces into Cousins he'd be worth whatever supposed maturity and character risk he carries.

You think Cousins alone is worth more than LMA+Greg+picks? What?
 
Like others have said, I thinK batum is perfectly fine in our SF role. If I HAD to find one, though, I'd probably target Maggette, because he's likely the cheapest to get. I'd try to get Deng from Chicago. Iguodola from Philly. Rashard from Orlando. Caron butler. Rudy Gay.
 
Like others have said, I thinK batum is perfectly fine in our SF role. If I HAD to find one, though, I'd probably target Maggette, because he's likely the cheapest to get. I'd try to get Deng from Chicago. Iguodola from Philly. Rashard from Orlando. Caron butler. Rudy Gay.

I like Deng and Iguodala, considering age, possibility that they're available and chances of being good going forward. Lewis is interesting. I think Gay is extremely overrated and I'm not bullish on his future prospects. I consider him equivalent to Outlaw but at much higher cost.
 
You would trade Aldride, Greg and picks for Cousins? Is everybody really that down about Aldridge? Let alone including Greg and picks.

You think Cousins alone is worth more than LMA+Greg+picks? What?

I meant to say LMA or Greg with Picks and other pieces thrown in ... and yeah I believe that LMA has mostly plateaued and Greg seems like a pretty lousy bet to stay healthy enough to realize his potential and Cousins probably has a higher ceiling than either LMA or Greg still possess (and before everybody jumps on that, I believe Greg had a higher ceiling than Cousins before he entered the league and has failed to show he can take the rigors of playing in the NBA).
 
I'm still hopeful that Oden can/will eventually become our #1 low-post scoring option.
 
I wouldn't trade Oden or LMA and picks for the next Micheal Beasley.
 
I wouldn't trade Oden or LMA and picks for the next Micheal Beasley.
Cool, so you aren't against a Cousins pick then? Cousins is a legit 6'11" tall. He is not the second coming of Michael Beasley. He may pack some 'tude, but at the PF spot, that is needed.
 
My long-term solution for a low post scorer:

demarcus-cousins-1-27.jpg


Now, how do we trade into the top-5? :devilwink:

I'm with you. Plus I don't think it will take that much to move up to a lotto pick this year as compared to earlier years. Top 2 picks will be hard to get. Past that, not so hard.
 
I'm with you. Plus I don't think it will take that much to move up to a lotto pick this year as compared to earlier years. Top 2 picks will be hard to get. Past that, not so hard.

But how do you propose we do that? What do we realistically have that someone with the #3 pick is going to take for Cousins? And that we'd give up for him. Why would a team getting the #3 pick take Aldridge for him?
 
I have no idea ... I will say this though, if KP could somehow parlay LMA, Greg and other picks or pieces into Cousins he'd be worth whatever supposed maturity and character risk he carries.

Cousins is Rasheed without Rasheed's basketball ability or IQ. Trading either LMA or Greg for that future screw-up would be a fireable offense.

I am surprised you made this statement to be honest.
 
Cousins is Rasheed without Rasheed's basketball ability or IQ. Trading either LMA or Greg for that future screw-up would be a fireable offense.

I am surprised you made this statement to be honest.

He'd be a high-risk, high-reward pick for sure ... which is why it might even be possible to move up and grab him if you found a willing trade partner.

But I think you undersell just how talented he is/was and his upside, he seems more Amare' than Sheed if you ask me.

But here's part of his report from draftexpress just in case you didn't get to watch him much and want to know what the scouting world thinks of him

January 28, 2010
Jonathan Givony

You’d be hard pressed to find a freshman who has dominated his opponents from a statistical standpoint the way DeMarcus Cousins has for Kentucky so far this season.

#1 in PER (actually ranking #1 in the last 8 years in that category), Points per-40 minutes pace adjusted, rebounds per-40p, field goals made and second in free throw attempts, Cousins has answered his many critics by going out and producing in unbelievable fashion.

A man amongst boys at the college level, Cousins’ combination of size, length and strength is simply unparalleled at this level of competition. There are only a handful of players that can even match up with him from a physical standpoint, and outside of a couple of ho-hum performances against the strongest big men he’s faced (UConn and North Carolina), he’s completely destroyed the slew of largely mediocre post players he’s been forced to deal with.

Watching him on film, it’s not difficult to see why. Cousins can establish position deep in the post pretty much whenever he wants at the college level with his huge frame, huge and extremely soft hands, and incredible wingspan-- making him the perfect target to lob the ball inside the paint to. He’s the type of guy who wants the ball in his hands and shows a real hunger to score as much as possible, which is a big part of the reason why he’s currently ranked as the #1 per-minute scorer in college basketball.

Once he gets the ball where he wants it, Cousins is more than skilled enough to know what to do with it, showing quick feet, terrific footwork, excellent body control and fantastic touch to finish off plays. Often-times you’ll see him creating his own shot by spinning off his man abruptly in impressive fashion, and then just using his terrific length to convert easily at the basket. Although he isn’t the most explosive guy you’ll find in terms of his ability to play above the rim, this aspect of his game can probably be improved as well (although only to a degree) by shedding the 10-15 pounds of baby fat he’s still sporting.

More than just a brute force in the lane, Cousins sports some intriguing perimeter skills as well, showing better ball-handling skills and jump-shooting ability than you would typically expect from a player his size. The problem is that he tends to over-do this aspect of his game from time to time, forcing up bad shots and making a couple of questionable decisions pretty much every game. To his credit, he’s gotten much better about this as his freshman season moves along.

Cousins’ free throw shooting is another area he’s made strides in as the season moves on, as he seems to be showing better focus here than he did earlier in the year. He gets to the charity stripe at a simply outrageous rate of 12-times per-40 minutes pace adjusted, and converts 66% of his attempts once there.

Maybe this team needs a little bit of 'crazy' or at least can endure it?
 
Cousins is Rasheed without Rasheed's basketball ability or IQ. Trading either LMA or Greg for that future screw-up would be a fireable offense.

I am surprised you made this statement to be honest.

I wouldn't move Oden or Aldridge for Cousins, either. Not even close.

Ed O.
 
Nic and Martell have it covered.

And we could get Travis back.
 
Once he gets the ball where he wants it, Cousins is more than skilled enough to know what to do with it, showing quick feet, terrific footwork, excellent body control and fantastic touch to finish off plays. Often-times you'll see him creating his own shot by spinning off his man abruptly in impressive fashion, and then just using his terrific length to convert easily at the basket.
- Draftexpress

Concerns about his so-so athletic ability and a history of temper issues on the court were the only things holding him back from being the No. 1 pick. Still look for him to go somewhere in the 3 to 5 range.
- Chad Ford

At the 2008 LeBron James Camp he measured in at 6'11" | 270 lbs | 7'6" wingspan as a HS senior.
 
That is, someone who could become the team's 2nd or 3rd scoring option next season.

Your dead on we need a "scoring small forward," But we don't need a starter, we need someone to come off the bench to spark the offense and keep us moving. I'll leave it up to KP but if all else fails Trout-Law can fit that bill.
 

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