Politics Liberation Day - The biggest tax hike in world history

[Hoopguru]

Why does it seem insane? It worked incredibly well for us.

I agree it worked well, just not sure the same agreements would be adhered too now days.

 

[barfo]

You forgot to comment.

The selectively-quoting-out-of-context is the message.

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[MickZagger]

The selectively-quoting-out-of-context is the message.

- barfall McLuhan

I don’t speak boomer commie pinko.

Zags

 

[Phatguysrule]

I agree it worked well, just not sure the same agreements would be adhered too now days.

If we're logical with our policies it would be in everyone's best interest to adhere to it.

Everyone except some despots and oligarchs.

It seems quite silly of us to put ourselves in a less advantageous position at the whims of a few rich and selfish people.

But that's what we're doing.

 

[Hoopguru]

If we're logical with our policies it would be in everyone's best interest to adhere to it.

Everyone except some despots and oligarchs.

It seems quite silly of us to put ourselves in a less advantageous position at the whims of a few rich and selfish people.

But that's what we're doing.

Not opposed to world trade....Having worked a MFG who at one time had over 8K employees in Milwaukee, union jobs, 1985, then reduced to 2500 Jobs, almost overnight because they moved focused factories to China of which they own 50%. Nothing wrong with wanting more manufacturing back here.

 

[MickZagger]

Not opposed to world trade....Having worked a MFG who at one time had over 8K employees in Milwaukee, union jobs, 1985, then reduced to 2500 Jobs, almost overnight because they moved focused factories to China of which they own 50%. Nothing wrong with wanting more manufacturing back here.

Companies just don’t want to pay what it takes to make a good living here. They’ll avoid it at all costs. I mean it sounds good in theory. But the greed overrunneth.

 

[barfo]

I don’t speak boomer commie pinko.

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[Hoopguru]

Companies just don’t want to pay what it takes to make a good living here. They’ll avoid it at all costs. I mean it sounds good in theory. But the greed overrunneth.

If they can compete with against imports from greedy oligarchs and commies with slave labor.

 

[Hoopguru]

lol...couldnt resist

 

[MickZagger]

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[Phatguysrule]

Not opposed to world trade....Having worked a MFG who at one time had over 8K employees in Milwaukee, union jobs, 1985, then reduced to 2500 Jobs, almost overnight because they moved focused factories to China of which they own 50%. Nothing wrong with wanting more manufacturing back here.

There aren't enough laborers here. I work in manufacturing now. We can't get enough employees to do the manufacturing that we already have.

Any manufacturing that comes back is going to be automated. All of the money is going into billionaire's pockets. And we'll have a more isolationist less secure world. Nothing about that is good.

 

[Hoopguru]

There aren't enough laborers here. I work in manufacturing now. We can't get enough employees to do the manufacturing that we already have.

Any manufacturing that comes back is going to be automated. All of the money is going into billionaire's pockets. And we'll have a more isolationist less secure world. Nothing about that is good.

I just dont
think its that doom and gloom...

 

[Hoopguru]

Companies just don’t want to pay what it takes to make a good living here. They’ll avoid it at all costs. I mean it sounds good in theory. But the greed overrunneth.

I have a son that a journeyman electrician that doing do College and a son that's a plumber that didnt doing college and they both do well. A son that has nan excavating company that does very well. There are jobs out there and good employees are hard to get.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I just dont
think its that doom and gloom...

To what degree it is bad is definitely up for debate.

There is almost certainly nothing good about it.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Companies just don’t want to pay what it takes to make a good living here. They’ll avoid it at all costs. I mean it sounds good in theory. But the greed overrunneth.

If they can compete with against imports from greedy oligarchs and commies with slave labor.

And even with competition from slave labor (which is only going to increase as America steps back, not decrease) we are at full employment... There isn't a large group of potential laborers for us to hire.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[MickZagger]

I have a son that a journeyman electrician that doing do College and a son that's a plumber that didnt doing college and they both do well. A son that has nan excavating company that does very well. There are jobs out there and good employees are hard to get.

Good on you for not preaching to your kids that college is the holy grail. There’s so many niches and needs out there that don’t need a rubber stamped bachelors degree.

I became more of a student in my 30’s than I ever cared to become in my 20’s

 

[MickZagger]

 

[Natebishop3]

This video is extremely interesting about what Trump's team is trying to do.


It makes a lot of sense about what they're trying to do..... but it won't work.

 

[crandc]

Big mistake is thinking Trump has some kind of grand plan. He is a senile failed businessman convinced he is a genius operating on stream of consciousness. The only sure thing is racism and cruelty.

Lifting tariffs on electronics will make things worse for American manufacturing. Because tariffs on components were not lifted, it becomes even more expensive to manufacture here and cheaper to purchase from abroad.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Phatguysrule]

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The rest of the world looking at the US...

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Natebishop3]

It's just completely unrealistic to think that we're going to bring manufacturing back to the US.

 

[riverman]

It's just completely unrealistic to think that we're going to bring manufacturing back to the US.

Not if it's manufacturing by robotics but actual humans doing much is questionable.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Not if it's manufacturing by robotics but actual humans doing much is questionable.

Robots aren't going to be as good as North Korean, Chinese (exported American prisoners?) slave labor. For a long time.

It'll probably be a while before they are even as cheap as slave labor

*Edit* At least, certainly not during Trump's presidency...

 

[Natebishop3]

Not if it's manufacturing by robotics but actual humans doing much is questionable.

AI and robots. Yup. Eventually robots will be advanced enough to completely replace any manual labor. Robots don’t need breaks. They can work 24/7. They will lost likely be much more precise with a higher consistency of replication of products.

I really don’t know what’s going to happen to us regular folk. I don’t see corporations wanting to share any profits with people. Universal income will be so low that we will basically be the same as Soviet Russia. It’s a depressing future.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Trump Warns Phones, Computers Will Face New Tariffs

President Donald Trump said tariffs will still target phones, computers, and other electronics, despite a temporary exemption announced over the weekend. Confusion followed conflicting messages from Trump and his top advisers, as the administration now signals that levies on major tech products are still in the works. The move comes as the U.S.-China trade war escalates and tensions rise over new tariff rounds.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-administration-tariffs-immigration-china-live-updates-2059454

 

[crandc]

Trump is the misbehaving child who throws things in class to get attention. He used to just have tabloids. Now billions of people hear his every belch. With a tweet he can crash world economy, destroy thousands of people's lives, turn a business into a parish. Heady stuff for malignant megalomaniac.