Lillard's and Aldridge's relationship. (He will come back Portland one day)

[bobf]

The guy was an all star this year. Hardly an aging player that is struggling to keep up. I think too many people are still butthurt over the way he left and forget how talented he is.

He made the all star team but in my book he's no where near an all star. He's a somewhat above average player. You can think I'm upset about the way he left, but that's not it... I was glad when he left. He was stifling our team. For the same reason, I don't want him back. We have a good team with a great chemistry and team mentality. I don't want LA polluting that.

 

[KingSpeed]

Exactly. He's effective when they choose to double. Just stay at home and make him make a shot. He might actually be a downgrade from Aminu. I know no one will believe that, but I believe it's the truth. There is more to basketball than PER and usage. He is certainly a downgrade when you consider all his additional baggage. I would take Aminu a million times without a second thought over LA.

Aldridge is a better defender and rebounder. Plus he has a go to shot and was very effective in 2014 playoffs against Houston. 40+ points in both games 1 & 2 on the road.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Aldridge is a better defender and rebounder. Plus he has a go to shot and was very effective in 2014 playoffs against Houston. 40+ points in both games 1 & 2 on the road.

“What have you done for me lately?”

 

[KingSpeed]

“What have you done for me lately?”

True. The Memphis series was horrible.

 

[CupWizier]

“What have you done for me lately?”

Lately he's been with San Antonio and has helped keep them relevant.

 

[CupWizier]

Again. Saying someone doesnt think he is that talented is not the same as saying he has no talent.

You are right about one thing though...here we go again....

so now you're going to split hairs with the use of a word? C'mon, you are better than that aren't you? No sense carrying this discussion any further with you as it's probably best to end this now. Aldridge's resume proves he is a very talented player and thinking he isn't makes me question ones ability to evaluate talent.

Have a nice day.

 

[bobf]

Aldridge is a better defender and rebounder. Plus he has a go to shot and was very effective in 2014 playoffs against Houston. 40+ points in both games 1 & 2 on the road.

He's not a better defender and they average the same rebounds per minute. He certainly has a go to shot but we have enough offense. 2014? Seriously? LA is the kind of guy who improves a crappy team because he has a decent shot that is mostly unstoppable. But the better your team is the more you do not want a guy like LA. He's a needy player.

 

[blue9]

We'd be next tier better. Please make this happen!

So "B Tier" rather than "C Tier"? I'm cool - fuck LA. That MFer ain't never winning a championship as major rotation player. Speaks volumes that a team built around him under THE BEST COACH in the league is worse than a team built around Dame under an excruciatingly average coach. The dude doesn't impact games except for a handful of times each season. PFs who don't do the dirty work aren't worth shit.

 

[blue9]

You can think I'm upset about the way he left, but that's not it... I was glad when he left. He was stifling our team.

We may completely disagree about Aminu, but we're in 100% agreement about LA.

 

[bobf]

So "B Tier" rather than "C Tier"? I'm cool - fuck LA. That MFer ain't never winning a championship as major rotation player. Speaks volumes that a team built around him under THE BEST COACH in the league is worse than a team built around Dame under an excruciatingly average coach. The dude doesn't impact games except for a handful of times each season. PFs who don't do the dirty work aren't worth shit.

Truth!

 

[Propagandist]

So "B Tier" rather than "C Tier"? I'm cool - fuck LA. That MFer ain't never winning a championship as major rotation player. Speaks volumes that a team built around him under THE BEST COACH in the league is worse than a team built around Dame under an excruciatingly average coach. The dude doesn't impact games except for a handful of times each season. PFs who don't do the dirty work aren't worth shit.

We're C tier right now? gtfo. We are just below the top tier and knocking on the door. And when we had LA we were in the same spot. I think the LA hate is comical. Dude can play.

 

[blue9]

We're C tier right now? gtfo. We are just below the top tier and knocking on the door. And when we had LA we were in the same spot. I think the LA hate is comical. Dude can play.

A Tier = Contenders (GSW...maybe HOU?)
B Tier = Conference Finals contenders
C Tier = 1st or 2nd round outs. Regardless of record, we're behind B Tier teams when it comes to making the conference finals.

RE LA: Look at the team when we had LA, but before we had Dame and after Roy "retired" - when the team was "his" it SUCKED. Then look at the team after LA left - no change. LA is a joke.

 

[CupWizier]

A Tier = Contenders (GSW...maybe HOU?)
B Tier = Conference Finals contenders
C Tier = 1st or 2nd round outs. Regardless of record, we're behind B Tier teams when it comes to making the conference finals.

RE LA: Look at the team when we had LA, but before we had Dame and after Roy "retired" - when the team was "his" it SUCKED. Then look at the team after LA left - no change. LA is a joke.

The two seasons before Aldridge left we finished first and second in the division and 54 and 51 wins. Pretty crappy eh?

 

[Propagandist]

A Tier = Contenders (GSW...maybe HOU?)
B Tier = Conference Finals contenders
C Tier = 1st or 2nd round outs. Regardless of record, we're behind B Tier teams when it comes to making the conference finals.

RE LA: Look at the team when we had LA, but before we had Dame and after Roy "retired" - when the team was "his" it SUCKED. Then look at the team after LA left - no change. LA is a joke.

We'll see, of course. But I'd put us firmly in the B Tier. If we gel, only GS will be able to stop us in the West.

Sure, LA isn't a leader, but I thought the LA/Dame teams were good (regular season) teams. LA would be joining a (hopefully still) B Tier team. He would no longer be asked to be the man, but would surely prove to be a solid contributor on a Dame-led team. Also he wants to be here. Think David West at the end of his career, but much better.

 

[Labinot41]

 

[blue9]

We'll see, of course. But I'd put us firmly in the B Tier. If we gel, only GS will be able to stop us in the West.

Sure, LA isn't a leader, but I thought the LA/Dame teams were good (regular season) teams. LA would be joining a (hopefully still) B Tier team. He would no longer be asked to be the man, but would surely prove to be a solid contributor on a Dame-led team. Also he wants to be here. Think David West at the end of his career, but much better.

I'll just have to respectfully disagree with you.

 

[CupWizier]

He made the all star team but in my book he's no where near an all star. He's a somewhat above average player. You can think I'm upset about the way he left, but that's not it... I was glad when he left. He was stifling our team. For the same reason, I don't want him back. We have a good team with a great chemistry and team mentality. I don't want LA polluting that.

All of his all star appearances have been chosen by the coaches in the league. Are you saying the coaches have been clueless 7 times?

 

[Orion Bailey]

so now you're going to split hairs with the use of a word? C'mon, you are better than that aren't you? No sense carrying this discussion any further with you as it's probably best to end this now. Aldridge's resume proves he is a very talented player and thinking he isn't makes me question ones ability to evaluate talent.

Have a nice day.

So you deny they are different and considerably different?

Saying someone is overated is not saying they have no talent... have a nice day....

 

[Orion Bailey]

Lately he's been with San Antonio and has helped keep them relevant.

Were not san antonio.

 

[CupWizier]

So you deny they are different and considerably different?

Saying someone is overated is not saying they have no talent... have a nice day....

Good bye. I told you I was done discussing this with you, but here you are still trying to instigate and now trying to bring something in I never said.

PS- not to nit pick but overrated has 2 r's.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Good bye. I told you I was done discussing this with you, but here you are still trying to instigate and now trying to bring something in I never said.

PS- not to nit pick but overrated has 2 r's.

Wow....

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I'd love to have a pf as talented as LMA on the Blazers, and remembering when LMA is on top of his game he does seem like a great match with Nurk but...

When LMA was here it was his team. Lillard was quickly challenging that by his play and leadership but from owner, GM, coach, and players, LMA was top dog.

That position is not available for him if he were to come back and I'm not sure if he could handle that.

LMA could be the 4th option on offense. 1. Lillard 2a. Nurk 2b. CJ 4. LMA.

While I think LMA has matured enough to be the 4th option on a team, I don't seem him accepting that role on the Blazers, a team that once kissed his ass.

If LMA could accept that then welcome back.

If not, thanks for the memories.

 

[CupWizier]

I'd love to have a pf as talented as LMA on the Blazers, and remembering when LMA is on top of his game he does seem like a great match with Nurk but...

When LMA was here it was his team. Lillard was quickly challenging that by his play and leadership but from owner, GM, coach, and players, LMA was top dog.

That position is not available for him if he were to come back and I'm not sure if he could handle that.

LMA could be the 4th option on offense. 1. Lillard 2a. Nurk 2b. CJ 4. LMA.

While I think LMA has matured enough to be the 4th option on a team, I don't seem him accepting that role on the Blazers, a team that once kissed his ass.

If LMA could accept that then welcome back.

If not, thanks for the memories.

I have never really thought of options 1, 2 3 or 4. Lillard is first option because he is our best player and the point guard. After that it depends on match ups and who might have the hot hand. GS doesn't seem to have an issue with lots of scorers and if a player like Cousins can defer then no reason why Aldridge can't. His window for a championship is shrinking and being with Pops for a few years probably helped mature him

 

[BonesJones]

Wow....

That's what I'm saying.

 

[bobf]

All of his all star appearances have been chosen by the coaches in the league. Are you saying the coaches have been clueless 7 times?

I’m saying he’s overrated. On a bad team he will get you an ok shot so he’s a benefit. On an already good offensive team, those ok shots don’t add much value and don’t offset the negative chemistry baggage he brings.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I’m saying he’s overrated. On a bad team he will get you an ok shot so he’s a benefit. On an already good offensive team, those ok shots don’t add much value and don’t offset the negative chemistry baggage he brings.

I think he’s “rated” basically exactly as what he should be. He’s not a superstar, He’s not a shoe in for All-NBA, he’s a legit bottom tier All-Star, He’s definitely top 30ish in the NBA, but also definitely not top 15.
I suppose its fair to think he’s not even “that” good, but I never hear anyone talk about how he’s better then that.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I think he’s “rated” basically exactly as what he should be. He’s not a superstar, He’s not a shoe in for All-NBA, he’s a legit bottom tier All-Star, He’s definitely top 30ish in the NBA, but also definitely not top 15.
I suppose its fair to think he’s not even “that” good, but I never hear anyone talk about how better then that.

Be careful to not split hairs!!!

There is only talented and not talented. So which is it!@??????
You arent allowed to split hairs with tiers. Hell it doesnt even make sense, i was told!!!
Lol

 

[CupWizier]

Be careful to not split hairs!!!

There is only talented and not talented. So which is it!@??????
You arent allowed to split hairs with tiers. Hell it doesnt even make sense, i was told!!!
Lol

Thanks buttercup. Butthurt brown is a very flattering color for you.You aren't master baiting in the forum again are you?

 

[hoopsjock]

Thanks buttercup. Butthurt brown is a very flattering color for you.You aren't master baiting in the forum again are you?

When you posted like Orion just did the other day you tried to hide behind it not being about anyone specific. So I'll say the same thing you told me, it's awfully presumptuous to think that post is about you.

(See how ridiculous that sounds)

 

[Orion Bailey]

Thanks buttercup. Butthurt brown is a very flattering color for you.You aren't master baiting in the forum again are you?

Non ones is buthurt “buttercup” (you know when you use that word on others its a clear indication you are the one butthurt, lol?)

Just having some fun and being fair.

Am i wrong? After all, you said it and now its brought up to someone else and your butthurt about it to call names???

Lmao.
Cool man.

If what i said bothers you maybe you shouldnt have said it. Lol.


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