Lonzo Ball better than Dame?

[julius]

and discuss.

 

[SwissBlazer]

Lock this shit, mods.

 

[Orion Bailey]

No thanks. Troll bait.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Yes, it's not even close.

Lillard would be horrible at being a douchebag.

 

[handiman]

Only if "better overall" means taller.

 

[Chris Craig]

Lavar Ball needs to shut up already

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

He made a mistake, he typed unpopular when he really meant stupid.

 

[riverman]

Lavar Ball needs to shut up already

I want him to keep it up until Magic's head explodes and Lebron demands a trade

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Riiiight. That is why Laker fans are wanting Dame traded there.

Ball was not even first team all rookie while Dame was first all NBA.

Next.

 

[Reep]

I think it is an interesting question. Ball wins on defense, rebounding and fast break. Dame wins on everything else including shooting, overall offense, half court, leadership, crunch time etc.

As unpopular as this may be, Ball would be a great backcourt mate next to Dame because of their differences.

 

[e_blazer]

He’s far better than Dame at having a dipshit father and a fugly shot.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I think it is an interesting question. Ball wins on defense, rebounding and fast break. Dame wins on everything else including shooting, overall offense, half court, leadership, crunch time etc.

As unpopular as this may be, Ball would be a great backcourt mate next to Dame because of their differences.

There isn’t a GM in the league who would rather have Ball over Dame. Not even Magic.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Lock this shit mod up.

I kid...kinda

 

[Reep]

There isn’t a GM in the league who would rather have Ball over Dame. Not even Magic.

Totally agree. Dames leadership and crunch time skills alone make him the clear winner. My point is that Ball does some things better.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Totally agree. Dames leadership and crunch time skills alone make him the clear winner. My point is that Ball does some things better.

I know the “advanced” stats say Ball was a good defender but I sure didn’t see it, unfortunately the Lakers are on TV a lot too he seemed like a pretty bad defender if you ask me. He does seem to be a better rebounder Than Dame.

I mean to your point they bring different skill sets and I agree, but I’m not sure what Ball brings is more than fringe back up PG abilities like MCW type.

 

[julius]

I think it is an interesting question. Ball wins on defense, rebounding and fast break. Dame wins on everything else including shooting, overall offense, half court, leadership, crunch time etc.

As unpopular as this may be, Ball would be a great backcourt mate next to Dame because of their differences.

How exactly is Lonzo better at defense?

 

[H.C.]

They only say stuff like this because they kept saying. Lillard future laker.
It never happened. Now they're all like. 'oh well Lonzo is better anyway'.

Typical Laker bullshit.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Jeeeeezus I hate the dog days of (basketball) summer................

 

[Reep]

I know the “advanced” stats say Ball was a good defender but I sure didn’t see it, unfortunately the Lakers are on TV a lot too he seemed like a pretty bad defender if you ask me. He does seem to be a better rebounder Than Dame.

I mean to your point they bring different skill sets and I agree, but I’m not sure what Ball brings is more than fringe back up PG abilities like MCW type.

While Ball does have some me good skills, I think the jury is still out on whether he can be a starting point guard on a playoff team. He is young so we will see. Right now it still feels 50:50 that he could end up a bust.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

They only say stuff like this because they kept saying. Lillard future laker.
It never happened. Now they're all like. 'oh well Lonzo is better anyway'.

Typical Laker bullshit.

To be fair the Blazer fans (us) do this a bit too. We really want a guy then we don’t get him it’s like we’ll we didn’t want him anyways ...

 

[riverman]

The Ball kid is an excellent passer....this much I'll give him...that's his strong skillset

 

[Reep]

How exactly is Lonzo better at defense?

The eye test for me as I live in L@ker land. He is certainly longer than Dame. I believe his advance stats support that as well. He’s not a lock down defender, and Dame did improve a bit last year, but I think Ball is a bit better, especially at his age.

 

[James lamphear]

For size to size Dame is a good rebounder and Ball is decent. Ball is not a good defender and terrible shooter. Ball is passing is above average passer due to he can make the basic pass to another player. Does he make highlight passes the answer not really. Ball is still young and I almost can tell you if the Spurs would of made that trade with the Lakers with Leonard, Ball might have been a Spur. Anyway I don't think Ball is durable he properly will be hurt all the time. He was hurt in his summer league and he was hurt last year. Then he had procedure done this summer. Dame been the opposite and he is a better leader. Ball won't get all them assist this year due to LeBron that dominate the ball.

 

[riverman]

The eye test for me as I live in L@ker land. He is certainly longer than Dame. I believe his advance stats support that as well. He’s not a lock down defender, and Dame did improve a bit last year, but I think Ball is a bit better, especially at his age.

I think Wade Baldwin would own Lonzo on the court. I don't watch the Lakers but I watched Lonzo play in college ...defense there was not his strong suit.

 

[Rhal]

Unpopular opinion: Harkless is better then Durant

and yes I consider my above statement and the twitter statement to be on EXACTLY the same level of stupidity

 

[julius]

The eye test for me as I live in L@ker land. He is certainly longer than Dame. I believe his advance stats support that as well. He’s not a lock down defender, and Dame did improve a bit last year, but I think Ball is a bit better, especially at his age.

to me, they're both s0-s0 defenders, so claiming one is better than the other is like breaking your left pinky is better than breaking your right pinky.

 

[Hobbesarable]

and discuss.

Laker Lockdown shows why huffing paint is bad for you.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Laker Lockdown shows why huffing paint is bad for you.

I think this should be the new name of the thread...

 

[Boob-No-More]

and discuss.

So, Laker Lockdown is an @HCP burner account?

BNM

 

[Wizard Mentor]

According to rumor, Spurs didn't trade with LAL because they wouldn't take Ball.