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KingAlbertoJrSpeed said:
Hear hear! And you know what? No one is beating Golden State this year so let's just enjoy the season and enjoy the Warriors' greatness while we can. In about 4 years, it will be our turn.
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The Warrors are like the old Celtics from the late 50's and early 60's, at least for now.
 
Really don't mind the development year thing.

Only thing that sucks is that we're wasting a year of Dame's prime.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Really don't mind the development year thing.

Only thing that sucks is that we're wasting a year of Dame's prime.
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We have another decade of Dame (knock on wood) so I'm not too worried. Honestly if we end up with a top 4 pick I hope to God we deal it to Indiana or Sacramento. I love the idea of a young player growing in the Portland system but given the ages of our players, I think grabbing an all-star in his mid 20s would be a lot smarter than using the draft pick on a 19 year old.
 
Losing does suck, and sometimes it's hard to turn off that disappointment when we lose, but I'm having a hard time understanding why some people are getting so upset when we lose. What were people expecting this year? It seemed like most people were predicting 30ish wins. This is what a 30 win team looks like. I don't understand the comments like "Vonleh sucks!" or "Trade Crabbe!" after only 8 games. This is a rebuilding year. We are rebuilding the team. We are playing our young guys to help them develop and assess what we have.

People need to calm down, we aren't making the playoffs, and this is going to be a long season if you keep expecting wins against the best teams in the league.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
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Can I report an offensive image posted by a Moderator?
 
I loved watching Ed Davis last night. That guy hustles. I wished we played him more. Our defense tho never seems to adjust as quickly as I'd like. Also how come we can't figure out the trapping with dame?? It's been his bane now for three seasons! Figure it out coach!
 
blue32 said:
I loved watching Ed Davis last night. That guy hustles. I wished we played him more. Our defense tho never seems to adjust as quickly as I'd like. Also how come we can't figure out the trapping with dame?? It's been his bane now for three seasons! Figure it out coach!
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If he hasn't figured it out by now, I think it's safe to say he's never going to figure it out. Stotts isn't good with Xs & Os - he wants to run a 3-man weave, or a modified weave, and let his players free-lance off of screens.
 
blue9 said:
If he hasn't figured it out by now, I think it's safe to say he's never going to figure it out. Stotts isn't good with Xs & Os - he wants to run a 3-man weave, or a modified weave, and let his players free-lance off of screens.
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It will be interesting to see who we bring in next season. (I don't think Stotts makes it)
 
Nikolokolus said:
Yes
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Hmph.
Well, at least it appears he was only brought in to appease LMA, and now that THAT nightmare is over perhaps he'll find a coach who's better suited to coaching NBA basketball.
 
blue9 said:
Hmph.
Well, at least it appears he was only brought in to appease LMA, and now that THAT nightmare is over perhaps he'll find a coach who's better suited to coaching NBA basketball.
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I'm actually OK with Stotts. His offense is fun to watch, guys seem to respond to him, he seems to maximize most of his starters' talent, but defensively I worry and I think he's the wrong guy to do the development thing, so I doubt he'll be here for long.
 
blue9 said:
Hmph.
Well, at least it appears he was only brought in to appease LMA, and now that THAT nightmare is over perhaps he'll find a coach who's better suited to coaching NBA basketball.
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Walton and Lue should be too candidates. Thibs would be a decent hire, wish we could hire him as a DC/AHC this season.
 
Weren't we a top 5 offense and defense last year until Wes got hurt?

Took Terry 1.5 seasons with vets to get there from one of the shittiest defenses in the league when Rolo first replaced JJ. Give him some time with this crew. We have a bunch of athletes-- they just don't have the smarts or experience to know how to use their skills/size.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Weren't we a top 5 offense and defense last year until Wes got hurt?

Took Terry 1.5 seasons with vets to get there. Give him some time with this crew. We have a bunch of athletes-- they just don't have the smarts or experience to know how to use their skills/size.
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I think statistically we were top 5 but in all honesty it didn't feel that way, we were a very slow team and that usually benefits your defensive statistics.

We had/still have major faults in our defensive philosophy. We have more trouble with defending pick plays than any other team in the NBA (probably not true but it feels that way).
 
yuyuza1 said:
Weren't we a top 5 offense and defense last year until Wes got hurt?

Took Terry 1.5 seasons with vets to get there from one of the shittiest defenses in the league when Rolo first replaced JJ. Give him some time with this crew. We have a bunch of athletes-- they just don't have the smarts or experience to know how to use their skills/size.
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Fools gold. I don't care what the stats for a partial season say. The offense is only good enough for the regular season - and even then it's often lacking. And the defensive philosophy was crap because it was an iron-clad rule applied the same to every team in the league regardless of their strengths/weaknesses. Terry's shown about as much ability to adjust as Nate did. He's a mediocre coach in a league full of mediocre coaches - absolutely no reason to continue investing time/money in him.
 
blue9 said:
Fools gold. I don't care what the stats for a partial season say. The offense is only good enough for the regular season - and even then it's often lacking. And the defensive philosophy was crap because it was an iron-clad rule applied the same to every team in the league regardless of their strengths/weaknesses. Terry's shown about as much ability to adjust as Nate did. He's a mediocre coach in a league full of mediocre coaches - absolutely no reason to continue investing time/money in him.
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I was watching the stupid coaches interview rife with cliches, and I never realized just how "Aw shucks, gee golly" stotts is. Kinda like Mike Riley.

I mean, I knew. But now I know.
 
Strenuus said:
I was watching the stupid coaches interview rife with cliches, and I never realized just how "Aw shucks, gee golly" stotts is. Kinda like Mike Riley.

I mean, I knew. But now I know.
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Other than being a little better than Nate at everything, they are essentially exactly the same. When they open their mouths nothing that comes out actually means anything.
 
yuyuza1 said:
So the whole familiarity breeds success thing does not resonate with you?
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There's a lot more that goes into success than familiarity. Sayings, cliches, and platitudes are just words. There may be a kernel of truth to them, but they do not adequately address the topic they're applied to.
Skill, intelligence, and ability are FAR more important than familiarity. Familiarity heightens the other qualities - that's it.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
We have another decade of Dame (knock on wood) so I'm not too worried. Honestly if we end up with a top 4 pick I hope to God we deal it to Indiana or Sacramento. I love the idea of a young player growing in the Portland system but given the ages of our players, I think grabbing an all-star in his mid 20s would be a lot smarter than using the draft pick on a 19 year old.
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I kind of agree; but the other thing to think about is if we add Cousins he only has two full seasons left on his contract. It'll be identical to when Olshey was hired with LMA here and the clock ticking. We'll be watching our step on every decision hoping he stays long term. With a young player we have him for 4 years on a rookie contract plus likely another 5 on a rookie extension. So 2 years of a vet or 9 years of a young player. Plus the young player would be on a cheap rookie contract that gives us cap flexibility to add a 5th starter or multiple roll players.

I think it'll really depend what we have on the roster besides Lillard. Is CJ or Aminu showing us they can be improving long term starters? Do we acquire any other starting level players? Dame and Cousins alone aren't winning playoff series. If we can surround them with talent to compete it could be worth the risk of Cousins walking. If we're still multiple players and a year away from being relevant in the playoffs it likely better to draft a rookie.
 
Draco said:
I kind of agree; but the other thing to thing about is if we add Cousins he only has two full seasons left on his contract so it'll be identical to when Olshey was hired with LMA here and the clock ticking. We'll be watching our step on every decision hoping he stays long term. With a young player we have him for 4 years on a rookie contrac plus likely another 5 on a rookie extension. So 2 years of a vet or 9 years of a young player. Plus the young player would be on a cheap rookie contract that gives us cap flexibility to add a 5th starter or multiple roll players.

I think it'll really depend what we have on the roster besides Lillard. Is CJ or Aminu showing us they can be improving long term starters? Do we acquire any other starting level players? Dame and Cousins alone aren't winning playoff series. If we can surround them with talent to compete it could be worth the risk of Cousins walking. If we're still multiple players and a year away from being relevant in the playoffs it likely better to draft a rookie.
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The rookie is a crapshoot still though. If we obtained Cousins that would show the league we are serious and want to win now, that attracts free agents. Maybe not all stars but very good role players and vets.
 
I think we as fans can assess the team in a 10 game period. If we look at our record in this span, we can hope for improvement or critisize the leadership guiding these young players. If we meet .500 on the cycle that is a positive.....
 
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