I think the plan is to trade the pick

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Natebishop3 said:
This is why I loved Bob Whitsitt. He would take a big fucking swing. He would take a risk on a player with a checkered past. Someone like JR Rider.
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The only good JR Rider trade was the one that got us Steve Smith.
 
You know the majority of the Blazers fan base was pretty meh on Deni before he was traded here. Just saying….
 
illmatic99 said:
In 6 seasons, Zion has missed 258 games due to injury.

He has appeared in 214 games.

Why would it be any different in Portland? Unless he comes for cheap, no thanks.
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I have a sneaky feeling that if Zion was on the Knicks or Lakers or another of the top market's, he would be a lot healthier...and probably in better shape.
 
BigGameDamian said:
You know the majority of the Blazers fan base was pretty meh on Deni before he was traded here. Just saying….
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i'll go you one more, they hadn't heard of deni.

If portland puts all their stuff in for sabonis or lauri this summer i'm gonna be pissed.
 
Natebishop3 said:
This is why I loved Bob Whitsitt. He would take a big fucking swing. He would take a risk on a player with a checkered past. Someone like JR Rider.

Morant is a JR Rider.

Zion or LaMelo are a different kind of problem.

Trae would be the kind of scoring engine that we need.... but he's so small and also kind of a dick.

I'm not really excited about any of them but I can see the appeal.
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Trader Bob had a blank check and zero cap restrictions with one of the wealthiest owners in the NBA..that is the biggest difference between him and GMs that followed. He wasn't a chemistry guy at all though...just best player available..he should be known as "blank check Bob"
 
cheesehoff said:
I have a sneaky feeling that if Zion was on the Knicks or Lakers or another of the top market's, he would be a lot healthier...and probably in better shape.
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In New Orleans they deep fry everything, even veggies. Recipe for disaster for a guy who obviously has an appetite and very little self control
 
riverman said:
Trader Bob had a blank check and zero cap restrictions with one of the wealthiest owners in the NBA..that is the biggest difference between him and GMs that followed. He wasn't a chemistry guy at all though...just best player available..he should be known as "blank check Bob"
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THE wealthiest owner in all of pro sports, I believe. And I believe at the time he was the wealthiest by a lot.

Great point. Trader Bob had significant advantages.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
Grant sounded unhappy -- boohoo -- he is making what like over 30 m a year and when he did play except for maybe a handful of games and being generous at that he was average to bad so ya -- fuck Grant and him being unhappy. Did someone stick a gun to his head to re-sign with the Blazers ?? -- nope
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What about guys who are happy and think everything is fine when they lose and dont play well just because they got paid? We dont like those guys either right?
 
SharpesTriumph said:
I'll be surprised if the Blazers trade the pick. We saw with #3 how little value it had for proven NBA players. At #10 your probably not getting a starting level player, maybe you get an ok backup. But your missing that upside of an all-star that happens all the time in the lottery while never for backup veterans.

People point to the Deni trade, but that 2024 pick wasn't even the most valuable pick in the trade, Brogdon was coming off being the Blazers most effective player, and Deni improved much more than many of us or likely Washington expected.
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If they think they are only getting "an OK backup" then I would for sure trade the pick. There have to be higher expectations with the 10th pick than 'ok backup'.
 
“Zion Williamson's rehab in Portland was described as a private matter, and he's publicly stated he "enjoyed" his time there. While the specifics of his rehab process are kept private, HoopsHype reported that it was a lengthy process, both physically and mentally.”

Zion loved Portland according to Chris Haynes
 
10th pick doesn’t really get me excited.

I still believe in Scoot but personally I’m extremely high on Harper, I would consider a Scoot and 1st rounder to move up and get him. Sure who ever has that 2nd pick will probably want more and I think I’d probably pay more to get him.

Sabonis is another nice fit, high energy guy who is elite offensive player. Problem what would it take, Off the table players for me is Sharpe, Tou, and Deni.

Zion is still intriguing to me. Yes risky but talent wise he’s elite and yes exactly the type of player that would make us contenders. Sure the cost would be more than we are willing to pay. Guessing Tou, Deni or Sharpe and at least 2 1st rounders
 
1 Eye Jack said:
Zion is still intriguing to me. Yes risky but talent wise he’s elite and yes exactly the type of player that would make us contenders. Sure the cost would be more than we are willing to pay. Guessing Tou, Deni or Sharpe and at least 2 1st rounders
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My impression is that NO is just sick of him and it would not take that much to get him.
 
1 Eye Jack said:
Zion is still intriguing to me. Yes risky but talent wise he’s elite and yes exactly the type of player that would make us contenders. Sure the cost would be more than we are willing to pay. Guessing Tou, Deni or Sharpe and at least 2 1st rounders
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You are right, the cost might be too high if there is any type of bidding war. There are a couple of teams that could throw more than two 1sts at them.

But Zion is still a risk because of his injuries, so I would only be willing to trade Grant, Simons+, or Ayton. (plus two 1sts) No way would I trade Deni or Sharpe. Probably not Camara either. (I just value his D too much)
 
1. TraderBob was fun in free agency. KP was fun in the draft. A lot of good times. Some not good because chemistry matters.
2. Hands off Deni and Toumani — 68 minutes out of 240 are accounted for. Clingan off the table for a while.
3. Jabari Smith seems like a target for Portland for a bit, but it depends on the cost (and if Golden State beats them). As a small ball center? Stretch 4/5? If Schmitz likes him, I’m in.
4. Markkanen got paid and is not good on D. I prefer both Toumani and Deni.
5. Scoot is a starting NBA PG with plenty to improve. With that said, BPA in the draft tiers with positional size winning any ties.
 
I will say out of all the players I have seen Zion MIGHT be a risk worth taking as long as were getting rid of at least one of Ayton , Grant or Ant in the deal. I have big reservations about Zion BUT if he can even get 80% right he is a top 50 or better -- easy. I am just not sure if he can be counted on for a min. of 60 games a season plus hopefully the playoffs even if he has to be put on a minutes restriction of 25 to 30 min per game.
 
Of the risky players — and there’s a good number of them — if Zion physically is good, putting him with Clingan, Deni, Toumani, and Scoot is a serious move. Billups may be just the right coach for Zion. A Zion whisperer.

The 9/10 + another 1st, Grant, Sharpe, TimeLord for Zion and KO? If it worked — stand by. If the medicals are good … yes? Trade out this year’s 9/10 or keep Sharpe and input Murray? Yes.

The Blazers don’t have to make a swing like Zion. Nope.
They do need to deal with Grant and their expiring contract guys — DAEC, ASEC, RWEC, MTEC.
 
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HoopsFanAZ said:
Of the risky players — and there’s a good number of them — if Zion physically is good, putting him with Clingan, Deni, Toumani, and Scoot is a serious move. Billups may be just the right coach for Zion. A Zion whisperer.

The 9/10 + another 1st, Grant, Sharpe, TimeLord for Zion and KO? If it worked — stand by. If the medicals are good … yes?
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No way would I give up Sharpe and two FRPs. They can have the two FRPs and keep Olynyk.
 
blazerkor said:
No way would I give up Sharpe and two FRPs. They can have the two FRPs and keep Olynyk.
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I agree.

EDIT: I am always late to the party on wanting coaches fired or specific, young players traded. Shaedon is no exception. So a trade for a guy who refuses to keep his weight down and stay healthy is unwise …
 
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Fez Hammersticks said:
“Zion Williamson's rehab in Portland was described as a private matter, and he's publicly stated he "enjoyed" his time there. While the specifics of his rehab process are kept private, HoopsHype reported that it was a lengthy process, both physically and mentally.”

Zion loved Portland according to Chris Haynes
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I mean... We have great food...
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Agree, but that does not mean other teams won't offer more to get him.
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Think about all the knocked up strippers in Portland if we bring Zion to town.

The child support alone is going to be a boon to our economy for decades...
 
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Gotta attach a pick to get rid of Ayton. I think Ant is an asset that can be traded for assets. Jerami IMO would have to go to a team looking for a last piece to fit a championship puzzle.
That team would have to not care about going over the cap.
 
dviss1 said:
Gotta attach a pick to get rid of Ayton. I think Ant is an asset that can be traded for assets. Jerami IMO would have to go to a team looking for a last piece to fit a championship puzzle.
That team would have to not care about going over the cap.
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feel like this backwards.
Use the Zion situation
Ayton would give them significant cap relief going into 2026
A lot of free agents that summer

Grant has 3 years left..a contender would have to be desperate, have a need for Grant and have a window of at least the next two years.
Lakers come to mind but center is a bigger hole for them.
Maybe a team like Indy?
 
dviss1 said:
Gotta attach a pick to get rid of Ayton. I think Ant is an asset that can be traded for assets. Jerami IMO would have to go to a team looking for a last piece to fit a championship puzzle.
That team would have to not care about going over the cap.
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If we really want rid of Ayton just let him expire next year. No need to give up anything.
 
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