I personally think Lotto Picks are just that. Draft Picks. They mostly give you serviceable players that can contribute. A top three pick can be a really good asset. Some drafts have "generational talented" players. This one does not. Sometimes you get lucky and a player further down the draft becomes an all star talent. Not often does that happen.
At this point of the year in 2012, were you saying Damian Lillard was a generational talent? As the 6th pick he fell well outside your really good asset bracket into serviceable player. Hell, the 5th pick in the 2nd round of that same draft stands a pretty good chance of getting into the Hall of Fame. Granted the 2022 lotto lacks a hyped sure thing prospect like Greg Oden or Zion Williamson, but probably a good idea to not be so sure of your evaluation of the talent this far out as it's likely you'll be proven wrong.
Do you honestly feel Damian Lillard is a "Generational Talent"? Or do you feel he is just one of the best to ever play for the Blazers? Is that because of his talent or because of his overall value due to personality and commitment?
dame is a generational talent?
Outside of GS two years ago, this fanbase is probably one of the most pro-tank markets in the NBA. We have the longest active consecutive playoff appearance streak in the league but everyone knew this year needed to be a reset. But the way we are doing this is egregious and it wears on you. I am largely fine with it, but think we're taking it way too far.
unquestionably.
I question it. If a player is never the best in the league at his own position, how can he be termed a "generational talent"?
Dame averages 25/7/4 for his career and has been the picture of durability until this year. He has better or comparable raw career numbers to Steph.
by that definition of "generational" you probably only have about 5 dudes on that list.
There is no taking this too far. If we're going to tank we better get every last loss out of it as we possibly can. If you play Hart and Ant together you increase your chances of winning even if they're slim. The only thing I'm worried about with this tank is that the team gets fatigued with it like you are and wins some games because they want to keep things competitive.
I want our young guys to get something from these games. They aren't learning a damn thing losing by 30 every night. Your mindset would be somewhat OK if the only two guys we're carrying forward next year were Ant/Hart. But we're going to inevitably bring back more than just those guys and it's hard for them to develop when teams are running roughshod over them nightly.
It was the one that posted. Dame is similarly high on the field goals, made three pointers, and averages lists.
did i say he was? Steph will end up as a top 10 player of all time. Dame might end up in the top 50 when it's all said and done. In an era where Steph transformed the game, Dame has been the closest facsimile to a guy who was the transcendent talent of the generation. And I'll maintain that if you give Dame guys like Draymond/KD/Klay as teammates, Dame's efficiency would be pretty damn close to Steph's.
I feel like you guys are missing the forest through the trees with this definition of "generational." And yes, I feel like that moniker can be bestowed on more than the five best players at each position, especially when they are damn close in a bunch of different categories.
I think our young guys will get a lot out of the games from the twentieth of this month until April seventh when they won't be as outclassed but will still be losing almost all of those games. I don't see young NBA players like young NFL quarterbacks who can get shelled so much that they end up with shell shock that ruins their potential. These guys are getting reps in Chauncey's system against much better players than they will face as second and third stringers. They'll be better just from having real NBA playing time. It's just uncomfortable to watch.
Game has changed quite a bit for these players. Without Question Curry and Lillard will continue to rise among them for this stat.
Fair enough.
dame has played a major role in changing it.
I think some people would say that a generational talent is the best player from his generation. I think some would say a generational talent would be a superstar in any generation. I think some would say a generational talent is one whose talents will be remembered for generations. It's a really loose term to be arguing about. Dame is a superstar talent, he may still very well end up with an MVP and a championship or more. That being said, I think he's lived in Steph's shadow for so much of his career that he'll never be on anyone's Mt. Rushmore of point guards let alone their overall Mt. Rushmore. So in that way he's not a generational talent like LeBron, MJ, Magic, Kareem, Wilt, Bird, The Big O or a handful of others and he's not even one like Steph who will be on a lot of people's Mt. Rushmore of point guards.