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Those are just the 5 biggest there are out there. There are plenty more where that comes from. We still don't even know if Chauncey can coach. Obviously all he's doing now is telling them to go out and compete. Which isn't happening. 3 consecutive 30 point losses should tell you that. Billups is going through the motions with a team that isn't expected to win. As far as I'm concerned this is his first year of the two i was willing to give him to get it together. He has one more or it's "Fire Billups" thread time.
At this point Billups isn't even bringing what Cheeks brought.
You're seriously judging Chauncey based on the terrible lineups he has to run out there when the organization has shown the players that they want to lose???
 
You're seriously judging Chauncey based on the terrible lineups he has to run out there when the organization has shown the players that they want to lose???
No
I’m saying we have not seen if he can coach. It’s a waste of his first season in my opinion. He isn’t learning how to coach when all they can muster is 48 mins if garbage time.
 
I’ve been watching Blazer basketball longer than some of you have been alive, and this is the lowest point of all, as far as I’m concerned. We’re conceding the last twenty games of the season in hopes of getting a slightly better draft pick, which is sickening. Young guys like Watford and Williams and Simons are playing their butts off, and Billups is doing the best coaching he can, but the front office is doing everything they can to make sure the team loses. They’ve already removed a healthy Nurkic, and they’ll invent a reason to take another player out of the lineup if they have to. It’s embarrassing and dispiriting for our young guys, and it’s extremely bad karma. I don’t even want to watch this anymore.

Oh grow up.

This is reality, Greg.
 
37 points halfway through the 3rd period? Are you kidding me? No, this isn’t a low point at all. Fuck you Cronin and fuck you Trail Blazer brass. This is some of the most embarrassing and pathetic basketball ever played at the NBA level. This is stuff you can go down to the Y and watch for free.
 
37 points halfway through the 3rd period? Are you kidding me? No, this isn’t a low point at all. Fuck you Cronin and fuck you Trail Blazer brass. This is some of the most embarrassing and pathetic basketball ever played at the NBA level. This is stuff you can go down to the Y and watch for free.

Blazers record over the last 10 games as good or better than 8 of the 14 current Lottery teams.
 
37 points halfway through the 3rd period? Are you kidding me? No, this isn’t a low point at all. Fuck you Cronin and fuck you Trail Blazer brass. This is some of the most embarrassing and pathetic basketball ever played at the NBA level. This is stuff you can go down to the Y and watch for free.
Seriously, exercise a little patience. It's going to be a horrendous 23 games but as you've pointed out several times you've been watching this team since its inception in 1970. That's 21 seasons and over 2000 losses... you can handle 23 bad ones. For real, this is not at all embarrassing. Try being a fan of a team like the Kings or Wolves. The shit we're watching is what they deal with almost every season. The fact that this is intentional is just smart business. It's a one off season, so we can have a brighter future. Try to think about this stuff with a little more nuance.
 
I'm hoping we get the first pick in the draft and there are two really good players to choose from so we can do the honk thing again!
 
Agree 100% - I have been right there with ya...fan since day 1 in 1970 pretty much and this last stretch by far (sitting Nurk) has been the most miserable, barely watchable unit ever. We were sitting at a play in spot - and if you want to give young guys experience, then get them to at least a play-in game. Tanking is not going to improve anything as some things are the luck of the draw (lottery odds) anyhow. And for those of you people who keep say "well, don't watch then" some of us here have paid our hard earned money to either go to the games or pay for it to watch on TV (in advance might I add...no turning back) so re-think some things before knocking people who are upset about having to watch 30 point losses night after night.

BBango - you are spot on and it is disgraceful especially since this organization has prided itself on overcoming obstacles to win.

peace out,
daddylogan
Well-said. I’ve watched NBA basketball long enough to learn a few things, and I’m sure you have, too. I remember when the Blazers took LaRue Martin with the No. 1 pick, and Walter Berry, and of course Greg Oden. Good Lord. This franchise has made so many mistakes in the draft, I have no confidence they can get a difference-maker even if they’re in the lottery. Better to play hard, try to win every game, and let the chips fall where they may.
 
I’ve been watching Blazer basketball longer than some of you have been alive, and this is the lowest point of all, as far as I’m concerned. We’re conceding the last twenty games of the season in hopes of getting a slightly better draft pick, which is sickening. Young guys like Watford and Williams and Simons are playing their butts off, and Billups is doing the best coaching he can, but the front office is doing everything they can to make sure the team loses. They’ve already removed a healthy Nurkic, and they’ll invent a reason to take another player out of the lineup if they have to. It’s embarrassing and dispiriting for our young guys, and it’s extremely bad karma. I don’t even want to watch this anymore.
When my family got our first season tickets in 1970 I was already out of the Army so I'm certain I have some legitimate perspective. I call bull shit. I don't think management is doing anything of the sort. What I do know is that we really don't know although we each have our opinions and I have just expressed mine.
 
This is fool’s gold, believe me. The draft is a crap shoot. The Blazers should know that better than anyone. They have made more bad picks than just about any NBA team you can name.

The team they had after the trade deadline won four in a row, including one over the world champions. You add Lillard and Little and acquire another player via trade this summer, and you’re in good shape.

Tanking to get a slightly better pick is just stupid. It sets a bad precedent, and it’s just bad karma.
All teams have made bad picks and the Blazers have made bad ones and great ones. I'd say we've been a little better than average over the last half century as our win/loss record shows.
 
In response to players playing hard?
They pretty much quit last night. I watched the game yes. That is until i watched players actively quit and not give a damn any more. Seriously this is not a good look at all and these guys are losing that willingness to even compete. That is what happens when you tank at this level.
It's never a good thing and rarely gets you anything of value. Bad Karma all around.
 
In response to players playing hard?
They pretty much quit last night. I watched the game yes. That is until i watched players actively quit and not give a damn any more. Seriously this is not a good look at all and these guys are losing that willingness to even compete. That is what happens when you tank at this level.
It's never a good thing and rarely gets you anything of value. Bad Karma all around.
I dont necessarily think it's the karma aspect but more so building bad habits. Sure the players on the roster now wont really be active next yr but this kinda effort and lackadaisical attitude permeates to coaching staff, etc
 
This HAS to be a record... right?

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So with Keon/Williams/ Brown we are gonna win the championship next year right? Or will it be the year after that?
Chances are better this team will struggle to make the playoffs again with the built in excuse that the new guys will need time to gel while we all pray Lillard or Nurk don’t get injured again.
If one of them do go down do they just “Tank” again so it makes you feel better about losing?
Might be another chance at a lottery pick again or do they even have a pick next year?
I think if the team has trouble making the playoffs next season they'll trade Dame. I don't think we'll have trouble making the playoffs next season.
 
In response to players playing hard?
They pretty much quit last night. I watched the game yes. That is until i watched players actively quit and not give a damn any more. Seriously this is not a good look at all and these guys are losing that willingness to even compete. That is what happens when you tank at this level.
It's never a good thing and rarely gets you anything of value. Bad Karma all around.
Exactly. You “quit” when the game is so far out of reach not even a miracle will help. This is why you always want to put the most competitive team possible on the floor. Losing like this not only demoralizes players, it fosters bad habits.
 
Exactly. You “quit” when the game is so far out of reach not even a miracle will help. This is why you always want to put the most competitive team possible on the floor. Losing like this not only demoralizes players, it fosters bad habits.
I agree.
 
I dont necessarily think it's the karma aspect but more so building bad habits. Sure the players on the roster now wont really be active next yr but this kinda effort and lackadaisical attitude permeates to coaching staff, etc
Can you imagine the great John Wooden or Bobby Knight agreeing to coach under these conditions? Those guys were all about winning, and they would never sacrifice a few games just to get an extra advantage the next year.
 
All i know is this sucks and there is absolutely no guarantee they will be any better next year. Or the year after that?
It's not a guarantee at all, but this is the most likely option to compete at the highest level without trading Dame.

And if it doesn't work, we can still trade Dame if he decides he wants to leave.
 
They also didn't have the Paul Allen Family Fortune to draw from. As some point you got to spend some money. Certainly doesn't seem like they are willing.
They did have more resources and could bring in more talent than most other teams.

There was no way we could buy our way a championship contending roster, regardless of Paul Allen's fortune. That said, I'd love to see somebody with a similar fortune who loves basketball and wants to compete buy the team from Paul Allen's trust.
 
Exactly. You “quit” when the game is so far out of reach not even a miracle will help. This is why you always want to put the most competitive team possible on the floor. Losing like this not only demoralizes players, it fosters bad habits.
It was an incredibly rough game, let's hope the worst of the last 23 but it doesn't mean all of the games are going to be this way. Let's assume that we're putting squads out there that are about this good the rest of the season. After March 20th our guys won't be getting down by this many points so the issue that your moving to being concerned about today, won't be there anymore. Don't get me wrong if the franchise wants any of what's happened over the last six games to be for anything they'll continue to put teams on the floor that give us the best chance to get the best asset possible in the draft. Like I said yesterday you've been through a couple thousand losses as a day one fan of the team... show a little patience.

As far as this idea that we're teaching bad habits, I just don't see it. These are almost exclusively guys who will need to give it everything they have to stay in the league, even in blowouts (which will be most of their playing time unless they pop). So they better not give up but we're playing a pretty small rotation and what you see as their will giving out might be fatigue... I watched the game too and that's what I thought. The only guy that didn't seem to be giving it full effort was Hart at times and that's understandable because he's a guy who is established and I'm sure hates losing as much as you do. I hate it to but at least it's for a sensible reason.
 
Can you imagine the great John Wooden or Bobby Knight agreeing to coach under these conditions? Those guys were all about winning, and they would never sacrifice a few games just to get an extra advantage the next year.
Great job using the worst analogy possible. A college coach always has to look like their team is competitive because keeping their recruits and landing new ones depends on it. They can only get worse in the future by doing poorly in the present. Even though you seem to be refusing to recognize this reality... that's just not the case in a league who determines their draft order and draft lottery odds based on teams' records in individual seasons, worst to best.
 
but this is the most likely option to compete at the highest level without trading Dame.
Your opinion on this is very loose but i can accept that is in fact your opinion.
If you would have said "This COULD BE the most likely option..." I would have agreed with you.
At this point i do not.
 

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