Notice Lying

[bodyman5000 and 1]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/4188...m_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

 

[Strenuus]

I didnt see her say what is in the article. It says Mika thinks he shouldn't be allowed airtime because he will lie.

I wasn't really mentioning that article, just the overall tone of what some were saying about the objection.

I think some are saying because he'll be lying (which is true, he will. I know we haven't seen it, but he's known as a liar factually), and some are saying "Why not give both sides a chance".

 

[oldfisherman]

There are so many issues wrong with this discussion, I could write a large book about it. Where to begin?

First issue. How many lies Trump has told. Are there really so many lies, or, is Trump repeating the same lies?

The truthful way to report this is.
Example; Trump told a lie, but repeated it 200 times. So to report it as 200 lies, is a lie.

Presidents often take credit for successes they had little to nothing to do with. One that bothered me was Obama taking credit for terminating Bin Laden. Obama had nothing to do with the intel resulting in the Seals terminating Bin Ladin. Nor did he put himself in harm's way to make it happen. The truth is, all Obama did correctly was to make the best decision, based on his advisors info, on how to dispose of the body. Yet the left keeps repeating Obama got Bin Ladin. A lie told thousands of times.

Both the left and right tell lies and take credit when they can. The real problem is, it has become the norm, and is dividing the country.

 

[barfo]

There are so many issues wrong with this discussion, I could write a large book about it. Where to begin?

First issue. How many lies Trump has told. Are there really so many lies, or, is Trump repeating the same lies?

The truthful way to report this is.
Example; Trump told a lie, but repeated it 200 times. So to report it as 200 lies, is a lie.

That's fair. It would be better to report both the number of unique lies, and the number of times each is repeated.
Either way, though, he's way ahead of everyone else.

Presidents often take credit for successes they had little to nothing to do with. One that bothered me was Obama taking credit for terminating Bin Laden. Obama had nothing to do with the intel resulting in the Seals terminating Bin Ladin. Nor did he put himself in harm's way to make it happen. The truth is, all Obama did correctly was to make the best decision, based on his advisors info, on how to dispose of the body. Yet the left keeps repeating Obama got Bin Ladin. A lie told thousands of times.

1. Making decisions is what presidents do. They don't go kill the bad guys themselves.
2. "the left" is not the same as "Obama". Someone else lying (if it was a lie) doesn't count as the president lying.

Both the left and right tell lies and take credit when they can. The real problem is, it has become the norm, and is dividing the country.

Political operatives, activists, and other random people have always lied. That's a different issue than the president himself lying.

barfo

 

[stampedehero]

"Morons" (individuals with an age equivalency of 8-12 dependent upon parental supervision-Miriam Webster dictionary) voted for a lunatic. I saw his blood stained teeth when he ran his bogus empire in NYC and Atlantic City. Your country is led by a ___________________(fill in the blank.)

 

[stampedehero]

Trump lies soooooooo much that we need to stop him.

I know, let's ban him from addressing the country because "objectively" we know he is just gonna lie to us.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/morning-joe-says-networks-not-134232170.html

Let's ban him from S2. What you say SPD?

 

[stampedehero]

I abhor dishonesty. All forms. Direct lying. Skillful deception. Lies of omission. I hate it all. And to be clear, I do not support the President's propensity for "alternative facts".

This is not to say that people need necessarily be fully transparent with everything. There is nothing wrong with privacy, confidentiality. There is nothing wrong with soft-pedaling the truth to present it gracefully rather than brutally. There is nothing wrong with choosing not to disclose one's feelings.

But if the purpose of a particular communication (or lack thereof) is to cause another to believe something that the originator knows to be untrue, it is wrong.

My god, That's deep. It may be too much for some people in here to take. hahaha

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Let's ban him from S2. What you say SPD?

I thought about joining twitter to ask Trump to join S2 so people couldn't attack the poor guy so much.

 

[CupWizier]

That's better. It's an analysis of tweets. Personally I don't subscribe to Twitter so I am probably unaffected.

Don't kid yourself. You are affected as well as any other citizen. You should have said instead "I am probably unaware".

 

[CupWizier]

There are so many issues wrong with this discussion, I could write a large book about it. Where to begin?

First issue. How many lies Trump has told. Are there really so many lies, or, is Trump repeating the same lies?

The truthful way to report this is.
Example; Trump told a lie, but repeated it 200 times. So to report it as 200 lies, is a lie.

Presidents often take credit for successes they had little to nothing to do with. One that bothered me was Obama taking credit for terminating Bin Laden. Obama had nothing to do with the intel resulting in the Seals terminating Bin Ladin. Nor did he put himself in harm's way to make it happen. The truth is, all Obama did correctly was to make the best decision, based on his advisors info, on how to dispose of the body. Yet the left keeps repeating Obama got Bin Ladin. A lie told thousands of times.

Both the left and right tell lies and take credit when they can. The real problem is, it has become the norm, and is dividing the country.

Trump lies about his lies. I don't know the total, but there have been many times that he says one thing and then when questioned about it a day or so later, he will deny he even said it when it has been shown on tape that he did say it. That's not only a lie, it's a hypocritical lie.

As for your repeat lies theory, it should be considered another lie when he is fact checked and proven to be a lie and then will come back later and repeat that lie. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

 

[dviss1]

So is making a statement like "Trump lies 17 times a day". There is no context.

Do you really know what your talking about or are you spouting?

It's say the latter...

There's PLENTY of context:

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...as-made-more-than-false-or-misleading-claims/

https://www.nrdc.org/trump-lies

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/14/opinion/sunday/trump-lies-obama-who-is-worse.html

Stop being lazy.

 

[riverman]

That's better. It's an analysis of tweets. Personally I don't subscribe to Twitter so I am probably unaffected.

I don't either but it's all over the internet...you don't need to subscribe to see daily tweets in the news...it's still there

 

[Lanny]

We all bs at times. I stretched my resume when I needed a job. But I didn't make shit up out of thin air.

It's one thing to say your sister's new baby is cute even if, like me, small children really don't appeal to you. ( Kittens, now...) It's another to tell your significant other you are working overtime when you are out screwing someone else.

When someone lies to me it is a big deal because how can I ever give credence to anything? I don't think people should lie to their children about Santa or other gods. Or where babies come from.

And while it might be true all politicians spin, literally making shit up out of thin air (former Presidents want wall at Southern border), stuff easily disproven, is new.

I have a confession about a kitten. One time my mother had two sister cats. They both had litters within a couple days of each other. Mom was able to give away all the kittens but one which was growing to large to be cute anymore. So, she packs it up in a cardboard box and tells me to take it to the humane society where they would dispose of it. On the long drive over there the large kitten kept trying to get out of the box with the top folded together. I kept pushing it's head back into the box where it would meow. Got it to the humane society and left it with them and went home. It bothered me all the way home and all these years 'cause I'm sure they gassed it shortly after I left. I am still haunted by it's pleading meow.

 

[crandc]

I have a confession about a kitten. One time my mother had two sister cats. They both had litters within a couple days of each other. Mom was able to give away all the kittens but one which was growing to large to be cute anymore. So, she packs it up in a cardboard box and tells me to take it to the humane society where they would dispose of it. On the long drive over there the large kitten kept trying to get out of the box with the top folded together. I kept pushing it's head back into the box where it would meow. Got it to the humane society and left it with them and went home. It bothered me all the way home and all these years 'cause I'm sure they gassed it shortly after I left. I am still haunted by it's pleading meow.

Spay/ neuter. Please.

 

[Lanny]

Spay/ neuter. Please.

We had the cats spayed but that was almost 50 years ago. You'd think I'd be over it by now.

 

[jlprk]

Is this sentence wrong?

The tilesetter is laying the floor.

 

[barfo]

Is this sentence wrong?

The tilesetter is laying the floor.

Yes it is. The tilesetter is out in his truck getting stoned.

barfo

 

[Lanny]

Is this sentence wrong?

The tilesetter is laying the floor.

That's laying it on a little thick. har har har
Either that or it's some really kinky sex which means you should mention it to Sly 'cause kinky is right up his tree.

 

[oldfisherman]

So Trump is lying about 50% of the time.

Pelosi & Schumer are lying 100% of the time.

Sanders is lying 125% of the time.

We are so screwed

 

[Lanny]

So Trump is lying about 50% of the time.

Pelosi & Schumer are lying 100% of the time.

Sanders is lying 125% of the time.

We are so screwed

Well, you're going to have to back up that wild eyed assertion.