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After comparing the 2 videos, I'd have to say it's murder one.

I don't know his motivation but it doesn't appear at all that he momentarily lost his cool.

His demeanor, IN BOTH VIDEOS, is calm and purposeful with no indication of rage or loss of control.
 
MarAzul said:
We shall see. Currently I think they are charging Murder one, I don't think that will fly.
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I agree. There is no premeditation to that murder. But this was not manslaughter. He did not get drunk and hit someone with his car. He shot the guy 8 times in the back. That is Murder IMO.
 
People misunderstand "premeditation". There is no time limit involved. You can choose to kill, pull the trigger 1 second later, and it is still premeditated murder.

The video does not indicate any loss of control, which would reduce the charges.
 
The British media often publishes what the controlled American media will not.
 
This guy should never have been a cop. He just didn't have the temperment.
 
maxiep said:
He just didn't have the temperment
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That would be my take also. No amount of jail time fixes it either. The real crime was committed when he was put on duty. The hiring screening process or the training process should have
typed him as unfit for police duty.
 
MarAzul said:
That would be my take also. No amount of jail time fixes it either. The real crime was committed when he was put on duty. The hiring screening process or the training process should have
typed him as unfit for police duty.
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So his boss committed the real crime? Wouldnt his boss's boss have committed the real crime? He was after all the one who hired the one who hired the cop. Or his boss? Or his boss's boss? Couldn't this continue all the way to the very top of governm....

Oh, I get it. Its Obamas fault. Well played.
 
Jury In S.C. Police Shooting Trial Says It Is Struggling To Reach Verdict

One of the 12 jurors could not agree with the other 11 on a guilty verdict. They will resume deliberating Monday.

The Judge said:
If you cannot agree on a verdict, I must declare a mistrial. In that case, it doesn't mean anyone wins. It just means at some other time I will try this case with some other jury sitting where you now sit. The same participants will come, and the same lawyers will ask basically the same questions and get basically the same answers.
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Two other notes to the judge were both from the foreperson of the jury, who wrote in the first, "It's just one juror who has the issues," and in the second, "That juror needs to leave, he is having issues. Thank you. Sorry for all the notes."
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I thought for sure the jurors were going to agree on a guilty verdict when they began deliberations.
 
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just watched. and i agree, murderer plain and simple. dude should burn in hell & jail.

also policies need to be changed all across the nation , there is no WAY a police policy should allow you to shoot an unarmed man running away from you.
 
blue32 said:
just watched. and i agree, murderer plain and simple. dude should burn in hell & jail.

also policies need to be changed all across the nation , there is no WAY a police policy should allow you to shoot an unarmed man running away from you.
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Yeah the police said he shot because he felt threatned...dude was running away...wouldnt have looked back...when you shoot some one in the back that is not self defense....that is cowardice...that is murder
 
Chris Craig said:
Yeah the police said he shot because he felt threatned...dude was running away...wouldnt have looked back...when you shoot some one in the back that is not self defense....that is cowardice...that is murder
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Threatened when he ran away?? Wow, That's fucked up. You are also right, it's not self defense when you shoot someone in the back, this is also how citizens with CHL's get charged w/crimes because they don't understand the laws.
 
As i said in April... the cop should be guilty of murder one. I am pro blue, but they aren't above the law.
 
magnifier661 said:
the cop should be guilty of murder one. I am pro blue
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What is the policy there in SC.
The cop tries to arrest the guy for what ever.
The guy says fuck you and runs.

What should the cop do?
What was he told to do?
If the cop can't make a collar, does it go on his record?
It seems to me that many things could complicate Murder one. It seems at least one juror thinks so.
 
MarAzul said:
What is the policy there in SC.
The cop tries to arrest the guy for what ever.
The guy says fuck you and runs.

What should the cop do?
What was he told to do?
If the cop can't make a collar, does it go on his record?
It seems to me that many things could complicate Murder one. It seems at least one juror thinks so.
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Not sure I think anyone would train anyone to shoot someone running away from you unarmed. If you find any example in the US that says otherwise, I would like to read it.
 
MarAzul said:
What is the policy there in SC.
The cop tries to arrest the guy for what ever.
The guy says fuck you and runs.

What should the cop do?
What was he told to do?
If the cop can't make a collar, does it go on his record?
It seems to me that many things could complicate Murder one. It seems at least one juror thinks so.
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What should he do? Whatever answer one might come up with, the correct answer is not "shoot him in the back."

What was he told to do? Unless he was told, "When a suspect is fleeing, you MUST shoot them in the back," then he disobeyed what he was told. And honestly, even if he WAS told that (which you and I both know he wasn't), it doesn't make it right. "I was just following orders" had never been an acceptable excuse for murder.

Does inability to make the collar go on his record? I can't think of anything less relevant. His policing record is infinitely less significant than a man's life.
 
magnifier661 said:
Not sure I think anyone would train anyone to shoot someone running away from you unarmed.
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Well I guess this will set the new standard. Find this cop guilty of murder one, give him about 25 years. It won't make him any smarter but it will send the message to cops, Don't shoot anyone!
Now why the hell will anyone pay any attention to the Cops? They are harmless, just run away instead of submitting to arrest.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
What should he do? Whatever answer one might come up with, the correct answer is not "shoot him in the back."
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What if the guy told the Cop, fuck you! I am going to get my rifle, and when I get back, you are dead cop.
 
MarAzul said:
What if the guy told the Cop, fuck you! I am going to get my rifle, and when I get back, you are dead cop.
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A. Take defensive positioning, vocally alert public of a potential threat, radio for backup, remain aware of the individuals location.

B. Pursue the suspect on foot, radio for backup, keep vision on the suspect, if the suspect acquires a fire-arm re-assess.
2B. If the suspect has a fire arm be prepared to use deadly force to protect your life, as well as the life of the general public.
3B. If the suspect had diarrhea and was lying to try and keep the cop away from them so that they could make it to the nearest McDonalds restroom - Catch your breath, order a Big-Mac, arrest the suspect for evading arrest once he vacates the shitter.

C. Shoot the suspect in the back, become a murder, go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
A. Take defensive positioning, vocally alert public of a potential threat, radio for backup, remain aware of the individuals location.

B. Pursue the suspect on foot, radio for backup, keep vision on the suspect, if the suspect acquires a fire-arm re-assess.
2B. If the suspect has a fire arm be prepared to use deadly force to protect your life, as well as the life of the general public.
3B. If the suspect had diarrhea and was lying to try and keep the cop away from them so that they could make it to the nearest McDonalds restroom - Catch your breath, order a Big-Mac, arrest the suspect for evading arrest once he vacates the shitter.

C. Shoot the suspect in the back, become a murder, go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.
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Wow! Some good stuff here. Did the cop know all this? Still, I don't know if he should let the guy get the rifle though, I think he is fucked at that point.
 
Besides even if he did threaten the cop with a statement like that, he was out in the open and the cop fired multiple shots to kill. I'm unaware of where the entry wounds were, but I feel confident in my assumption that those were torso shots and not leg/hip shots. In other words this cop shot to kill, not to maim. The suspect obviously was not armed and aggressive at the time the shots were fired, so at the very least in this situation the cop should not have been seeking fatal action.
 
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