Man who watched Portland cops for months arrested after arsenal of weapons found in car, police say

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Without knowing what actually happened on the ground to tip the cops that they should take a keen interest in this guy, it's impossible to say whether or not they were justified in arresting this guy. Maybe they had an anonymous tip?
 
Nikolokolus said:
Without knowing what actually happened on the ground to tip the cops that they should take a keen interest in this guy, it's impossible to say whether or not they were justified in arresting this guy. Maybe they had an anonymous tip?
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They outline it pretty clearly in the article I linked. He was sitting outside the same precinct filming and listening to police scanners. Every time they'd try to go talk to him, he'd run and they'd pull him over for a "traffic violation."

It got to the point where two cops were sitting outside his house, watching him. I mean, I think any reasonable person can recognize that this dude is full of shit. He was clearly up to something. I just don't want the police to go outside of the law to charge someone for a crime that they didn't commit.
 
Natebishop3 said:
They outline it pretty clearly in the article I linked. He was sitting outside the same precinct filming and listening to police scanners. Every time they'd try to go talk to him, he'd run and they'd pull him over for a "traffic violation."

It got to the point where two cops were sitting outside his house, watching him. I mean, I think any reasonable person can recognize that this dude is full of shit. He was clearly up to something. I just don't want the police to go outside of the law to charge someone for a crime that they didn't commit.
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I guess what I'm saying is that we have a narrative we've been given. Is it actually the truth? That's tough to say, because I'm not sure I trust the cops to tell it straight.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I guess what I'm saying is that we have a narrative we've been given. Is it actually the truth? That's tough to say, because I'm not sure I trust the cops to tell it straight.
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Hard to say. All they have to do is accuse him of terrorism and he'll disappear. I'm surprised they haven't gone that route yet.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Hard to say. All they have to do is accuse him of terrorism and he'll disappear. I'm surprised they haven't gone that route yet.
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I accuse you of being a sexy mother fucker!
 
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blue32 said:
Same. I had no idea, nor did I even care to look..... yet here it is...........................
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I read a story or in this case was just reading others cliffs and the question doesnt even pop into my head. Like what does skin color have to do with anything? I felt like his rights were infringed upon but at the same time stupid people kind of deserve to get fucked sometimes. Sure, watch police all you want, but carrying an arsenal and avoiding talking to them is suspicious. Im all for gun rights, but there is a better way to make a point than stalking police during "black august"
 
All polices and corrections facilities are currently on alert because of the crazy people declaring they will kill as many cops as possible during "black august" you have rights, just dont be a fucking idiot.
 
Just heard on the radio that police have arrested 2 people protesting this guy's arrest.
 
A ghandi or mlk jr. Style protest would be sit on camera while police brutilize you and this will force people to change, because our deep subconcious hates seeing brutality on our fellow man. However they would discourage going out and trolling for the response. People are purposley fucking with cops to get the reaction they want on camera. Its not the right way to protest, and it's not going to yeild the desired result.

The problem is the ego. The avearge american ego, especially baby boomers and the coddle generation, is so larg, and so fragile. We will kill someone just to be percieved as "right" over an arguement about nothing. Its pathetic. And this modern version of "peacefull" protest is feeding into the narrative.
 
rasheedfan2005 said:
A ghandi or mlk jr. Style protest would be sit on camera while police brutilize you and this will force people to change, because our deep subconcious hates seeing brutality on our fellow man. However they would discourage going out and trolling for the response. People are purposley fucking with cops to get the reaction they want on camera. Its not the right way to protest, and it's not going to yeild the desired result.

The problem is the ego. The avearge american ego, especially baby boomers and the coddle generation, is so larg, and so fragile. We will kill someone just to be percieved as "right" over an arguement about nothing. Its pathetic. And this modern version of "peacefull" protest is feeding into the narrative.
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If what the police say is true, he was filming them during shift changes. It definitely seems like he was planning an attack. Driving around with a fully loaded 100 round drum mag is highly questionable. Still, I'm hoping they have more actual evidence because it's going to be hard to convict him without having actually committed a crime.
 
rasheedfan2005 said:
A ghandi or mlk jr. Style protest would be sit on camera while police brutilize you and this will force people to change, because our deep subconcious hates seeing brutality on our fellow man. However they would discourage going out and trolling for the response. People are purposley fucking with cops to get the reaction they want on camera. Its not the right way to protest, and it's not going to yeild the desired result.

The problem is the ego. The avearge american ego, especially baby boomers and the coddle generation, is so larg, and so fragile. We will kill someone just to be percieved as "right" over an arguement about nothing. Its pathetic. And this modern version of "peacefull" protest is feeding into the narrative.
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And you've protested what exactly?
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm fairly certain that it was me who destroyed the new franchise..... personally.
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Good job, can you get to work on The new Rocketeer, the New Magnificent Seven, the new Ben Hur, and stop any Back to the Future reboots in their tracks please?
 
santeesioux said:
Good job, can you get to work on The new Rocketeer, the New Magnificent Seven, the new Ben Hur, and stop any Back to the Future reboots in their tracks please?
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Don't forget the female reboot of Ocean's 11.
 
Portland pair accused of blocking cars while filming officers

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A pair of Portland residents face disorderly conduct charges after police said they obstructed the bureau's East Precinct driveway while filming officers Tuesday night.

Robert Lee West, 51, and Sarabeth Rachel Long, 38, both face the misdemeanor accusations after their arrest around 9:45 p.m. a few blocks from the police station, said Sgt. Pete Simpson in a news release.

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"Filming officers, or any member of the public, is not a crime as long as the person filming is not committing a crime to do so," such as blocking a driveway or trespassing, Simpson said.

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Simpson said West and Long were part of a group of people standing at the parking garage entry filming officers as they entered for a shift change. Simpson said officers informed the group they were allowed to film, but they could face arrest if they continued to block the entryway.

While some in the group complied, Simpson said West and Long did not.

West, who runs www.filmthepolice911.com which takes visitors to his YouTube channel, denies the group was blocking traffic. He said they were there to specifically "audit" and test bureau's response to filming.

"The police are waging war against cop watchers," West said on Wednesday. "This is a war that they declared. They're arresting us for stuff that is totally legal, but they're doing it just to do it."

West, who is well known to officers in multiple jurisdictions for filming them, has been arrested several times on accusations of disorderly conduct and interfering with officers dating back to 2013, according to state court records. That's among numerous other misdemeanor, traffic and parking accusations.

Court records show he was convicted in 2014 of second-degree disorderly conduct stemming from an arrest the year before.

A six-person jury in May found him guilty of two counts of disorderly conduct and interfering with an officer stemming from an arrest in June 2015.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/08/pair_arrested_after_blocking_c.html
 
SlyPokerDog said:
And you've protested what exactly?
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Ive protested comcast verizon and now sprint. I do so peacefully, by wasting their money bothering their support teams. Not by walking into their headquarters and killing people or following them with guns. Im pretty much ghandi light but i definitely dont do hunger strikes cause im fat and love food.
 
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