Marc Stein: Terry most likely out.

[THE HCP]

I don't suppose we could discuss if Stotts is going to be replaced in this thread.

Maybe you should IGNORE all the people involved in this argument. Watchout, they might be closet Laker fans.

 

[riverman]

I don't suppose we could discuss if Stotts is going to be replaced in this thread.

I don't think Terry will be replaced...I think he'll be here at least until his next contract comes around and if we're successful he'll probably still be around..I like the guy...I trust his demeanor....never wanted coach with a volatile temper for the Blazers...Terry is a player's coach and seems to handle the team without drama..I think he's a keeper. Front office likes him, players praise him....that speaks volumes to me.

 

[BonesJones]

No, it wasn't justified. That sort of response never turns out well.

The only guys I assert are trolls overwhelmingly prove it in virtually all of their posts. Hence, I would never accuse you of being a troll.

And that's about all the time I can spend on this.

Talk to you later.

I still think you're not understanding the difference between a trollish post and being a troll of a poster. Two very different things. I trolled earlier in this thread.. It wasn't very good though as it was taken seriously. I'm not very good at trolling... Or I'm too good at it. I dunno.

But you're not a troll.. I didn't like that post though and it came across as a trollish post. That's all I have to say. This isn't a big deal and everything's good my man.

 

[BonesJones]

I don't think Terry will be replaced...I think he'll be here at least until his next contract comes around and if we're successful he'll probably still be around..I like the guy...I trust his demeanor....never wanted coach with a volatile temper for the Blazers...Terry is a player's coach and seems to handle the team without drama..I think he's a keeper. Front office likes him, players praise him....that speaks volumes to me.

If we can overhaul our offense like Toronto did this year and focus more on the pass as well as try to make more adjustments defensively depending on our offensive opposition, I think we'll be absolutely fine and Stotts would be fine as our coach. If he can improve those areas, then he's fine. There's smaller things such as mis-timed timeouts, struggles out of timeouts, etc. but those main two things are why I think we struggle in playoffs (especially this year). It's been of my belief that he won't improve in those two areas, but I'm going to try to take the more optimistic route and hope he improves, since it's pretty obvious he's not going anywhere and I don't want to argue about whether he should be fired all summer.

How we can get better and play a better style is probably a much better discussion to have.

 

[riverman]

If we can overhaul our offense like Toronto did this year and focus more on the pass as well as try to make more adjustments defensively depending on our offensive opposition, I think we'll be absolutely fine and Stotts would be fine as our coach. If he can improve those areas, then he's fine. There's smaller things such as mis-timed timeouts, struggles out of timeouts, etc. but those main two things are why I think we struggle in playoffs (especially this year). It's been of my belief that he won't improve in those two areas, but I'm going to try to take the more optimistic route and hope he improves, since it's pretty obvious he's not going anywhere and I don't want to argue about whether he should be fired all summer.

How we can get better and play a better style is probably a much better discussion to have.

Hire Steve Nash or Andre Miller as passing coaches....hire Mark Price as a shooting coach...get Nurk to workout with the guy Meyers worked out with last summer.

 

[BonesJones]

Hire Steve Nash or Andre Miller as passing coaches....hire Mark Price as a shooting coach...get Nurk to workout with the guy Meyers worked out with last summer.

But is it our lack of skill in terms of passing (and is that the players' fault and not Terry's) or is it something to do with our coaching philosophy and the over-empowerment of players in regards to them pounding the ball?

 

[riverman]

But is it our lack of skill in terms of passing (and is that the players' fault and not Terry's) or is it something to do with our coaching philosophy and the over-empowerment of players in regards to them pounding the ball?

Lack of skill in terms of passing....our best passers don't handle the ball much...if I were looking to improve that, I'd bring in a passing coach...for our streaky shooters, I'd bring in a shooting coach...as I said...Nurk needs to work with the guy who got Meyers dunking the ball for once.

 

[BonesJones]

Lack of skill in terms of passing....our best passers don't handle the ball much...if I were looking to improve that, I'd bring in a passing coach...for our streaky shooters, I'd bring in a shooting coach...as I said...Nurk needs to work with the guy who got Meyers dunking the ball for once.

But Turner got 5 assists per game in Boston and that's been cut in half. He was a great passer under Brad Stevens, so what happened there?

Nurk showed very good passing his first 20 games here and it regressed and disappeared this year.

Those reasons make me believe Stotts is at least partly to blame.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Well I feel like Lanny is being disrespectful, and I explained it in my last post. Most times, if I come at someone like that it's because I feel like they're being disrespectful. If you don't see it, it can come across as me being disrespectful. That's fine. I don't like the way he was sarcastic, and his sarcasm seemed rather trollish. You won't see what I'm talking about but that's fine. That's what I took exception to. Maybe I shouldn't, it annoys me when people make sarcastic, blanket statements and put words in peoples mouth's just because they disagree. That's what he did. You'll never defend me to anyone, and if there's ever a disagreement you'll always side against me. It's whatever.

Pels won it, they played great. We also failed in many areas that we could've done a better job in, and to point out the fact doesn't make you any less of a fan, like you just implied.

I agree; that sarcasm by Lanny was annoying and unnecessary.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Hire Steve Nash or Andre Miller as passing coaches....hire Mark Price as a shooting coach...get Nurk to workout with the guy Meyers worked out with last summer.

Is Stotts open to hiring guys who may question what he is doing? Is he even interested in guys who might teach fundamentals? I haven't heard anything that makes me think he is.

 

[riverman]

Is Stotts open to hiring guys who may question what he is doing? Is he even interested in guys who might teach fundamentals? I haven't heard anything that makes me think he is.

You don't hire shooting coaches and expect them to question your system...he's the head coach...my reference is player development skills...he's got a great rep for developing players from the minor leagues through a championship Mavs squad.....Terry Stotts knows a lot about fundamentals....he addresses lack of execution when we play badly...how would you hear what Stotts is open to? We don't even know we're trading for Nurk until hours before the fact...the Blazers don't air their laundry in the public forum..I completely understand why. Stotts got the team a division championship in the toughest division in the NBA this season...you don't do that faking basketball knowledge...I'm a fan of his....I understand many around here are not. Choices

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

You don't hire shooting coaches and expect them to question your system...he's the head coach...my reference is player development skills...he's got a great rep for developing players from the minor leagues through a championship Mavs squad.....Terry Stotts knows a lot about fundamentals....he addresses lack of execution when we play badly...how would you hear what Stotts is open to? We don't even know we're trading for Nurk until hours before the fact...the Blazers don't air their laundry in the public forum..I completely understand why. Stotts got the team a division championship in the toughest division in the NBA this season...you don't do that faking basketball knowledge...I'm a fan of his....I understand many around here are not. Choices

I agree he has two assistant coaches who do great individual skill development. I don't see any development in team play outside of pick and roll and even on those the passing is often poor. By team play I guess I am talking about passing and decision-making as far as when to move and where to move to.

 

[riverman]

the passing is often poor.

I completely agree but to me, that's execution, not coaching....Stotts also has put guys in position for wide open shots...they just didn't make enough of them. It's not the system from my view...it's execution...over dribbling and not making the extra pass often enough.

 

[SportsAndWhine]

I agree; that sarcasm by Lanny was annoying and unnecessary.

 

[handiman]

Why would he be weak in that area though? He has the skills to be a great player in transition and on the break. Loves pull-ups, very quick, attacks the rim well...

To me, it seems like more of a decision. We need a coach that pushes him to push to the ball.

Lillard's style is more methodical than full speed ahead. Also, think back to his first couple years in the league. He was actually quite lousy at attacking the rim.

In the Draft express video transition play was listed as one of his strengths. Giving stats per 40. Nbadraft.net has always been the red haired stepchild of the Draft websites.

DE is more in-depth, but a PITA to use. I find NBADraft.net plenty accurate for getting a sense of the players. As long as you know how to form your own opinion while gathering information... I know, it's a lost art in the world these days.

 

[BonesJones]

Lillard's style is more methodical than full speed ahead. Also, think back to his first couple years in the league. He was actually quite lousy at attacking the rim.

That still seems decision based to me. I feel like he could be very good if he did it consistently..

 

[PHXBlazer1]

I just want more ball movement

 

[Strenuus]

Every day Terry Stotts is still our coach, is another day I have high doubts we win a championship.

Same goes for Olshey.

Doesn't mean I won't watch every game that I can, like I have for a long time, but I can still have my doubts.

If that doesn't make me a fan, that's on you, not me.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I disrespect every bitch ass motherfucker in here.

So this means i fuck my mothers bitch ass....?
Eeeerr. Wait.

Need a cup of coffee....

 

[Orion Bailey]

You don't hire shooting coaches and expect them to question your system...he's the head coach...my reference is player development skills...he's got a great rep for developing players from the minor leagues through a championship Mavs squad.....Terry Stotts knows a lot about fundamentals....he addresses lack of execution when we play badly...how would you hear what Stotts is open to? We don't even know we're trading for Nurk until hours before the fact...the Blazers don't air their laundry in the public forum..I completely understand why. Stotts got the team a division championship in the toughest division in the NBA this season...you don't do that faking basketball knowledge...I'm a fan of his....I understand many around here are not. Choices

I would disagree with this on the surface.

Great leaders will surround themselves with smart people who disagree with them.
If everyone thinks the same then how can they think outside the box, solve problems, etc?

I know i love it when one of my employees comes back at me with a different idea that may improve things.

 

[handiman]

That still seems decision based to me. I feel like he could be very good if he did it consistently..

That's like saying that being a good shooter is decision based. Most people can improve at most things if they devote enough practice time to it, but at what cost to their other skill sets?

 

[CupWizier]

That's like saying that being a good shooter is decision based. Most people can improve at most things if they devote enough practice time to it, but at what cost to their other skill sets?

One thing we know about Lillard is he will continually work on his weaknesses and improve his game. That's what makes him such a special player as he is very motivated to make this team successful.

 

[Lanny]

Lack of skill in terms of passing....our best passers don't handle the ball much...if I were looking to improve that, I'd bring in a passing coach...for our streaky shooters, I'd bring in a shooting coach...as I said...Nurk needs to work with the guy who got Meyers dunking the ball for once.

I'd go for that. Is there anything more beautiful in a basketball game then great passing leading to a win?

 

[Gronk Brady]

I'd go for that. Is there anything more beautiful in a basketball game then great passing leading to a win?

You say this, yet you want to bring back the same team that was DEAD LAST IN NBA IN ASSISTS... because Neil tells you it’s successful

 

[Lanny]

Is Stotts open to hiring guys who may question what he is doing? Is he even interested in guys who might teach fundamentals? I haven't heard anything that makes me think he is.

A good business manager is always open to hiring people who may question what he's doing so long as it's reasonable and as long as after careful consideration and the manager ruling the question as inaccurate, the hire does his best to implement the manager's decision. All of this assumes that the decision is ethical and not one that leads to a real disaster.

In this case a real disaster would be losing several games by huge margins or losing so many games that it gets embarrassing. In this case, the best course of action would be to speak to the GM or resign.

 

[Orion Bailey]

You say this, yet you want to bring back the same team that was DEAD LAST IN NBA IN ASSISTS... because Neil tells you it’s successful

Ball movement alone does not equate to more assists.

Better shooters making more shots off of ball movement is what increases assists.

So whats needed more? More ball movement or better shooters?

 

[Gronk Brady]

Ball movement alone does not equate to more assists.

Better shooters making more shots off of ball movement is what increases assists.

So whats needed more? More ball movement or better shooters?

Adding more shooters won’t change Dame and CJ dribbling away most of the shot clock... also, were do expect to find these elite difference making shooters when the team is over the cap and you refuse to trade our only asset in CJ

 

[Orion Bailey]

Adding more shooters won’t change Dame and CJ dribbling away most of the shot clock... also, were do expect to find these elite difference making shooters when the team is over the cap and you refuse to trade our only asset in CJ

When did I say more? I'm saying better, and yes it will. If they trust the guy is gonna knock down the shot, then they will feel confident in not doing it on their own. Hence more passing and probably earlier in the set.

Who said I refuse to trade CJ?

Who said these are elite difference making shooters?

Wow, do you run marathons often? cause you sure ran with that one and said I said a bunch of things I didnt....

 

[riverman]

You say this, yet you want to bring back the same team that was DEAD LAST IN NBA IN ASSISTS... because Neil tells you it’s successful

We went from 2 seasons ago with basically the same team being a bottom defense team to a top defensive team...we're not a team of 36 year old vets...passing needs to improve...during our win streak passing did improve...then guys got tired and hero balled more in the playoffs....great players will adapt, watch film and fill in the gaps in their games

 

[Gronk Brady]

When did I say more? I'm saying better, and yes it will. If they trust the guy is gonna knock down the shot, then they will feel confident in not doing it on their own. Hence more passing and probably earlier in the set.

Who said I refuse to trade CJ?

Who said these are elite difference making shooters?

Wow, do you run marathons often? cause you sure ran with that one and said I said a bunch of things I didnt....

Dude, I can’t keep track of who all the posters are in here and every detail of what they say... all I know is it’s a pretty clear divide between those who buy everything Neil is selling and those who see there is no way Dame/CJ will ever be a legit contender. And since Neil says he won’t ever entertain trading CJ... I assume Neil supporters refuse to trade CJ as well, or else why defend Neil?