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AmirIcon said:
Of course you can be brave and say that today, but 6 months ago nobody would have thought twice about those guys or this team. We say it differently now because of their success as a team. This is obvious. We'd be talking about the Blazers starting 5 right now if they would have advanced as well. Doesn't take much courage to say this now.
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I'm one of the few on this board who said Utah would be good last year and wouldn't drop off much without Hayward this year, so save that line for someone else.

Favors was mostly out of favor until recently, but Ingles has been getting the attention of many for awhile now. Both were already under the current coaching staff, so make of it what you will. Rubio was the wild card. He would have gotten a serious look from any team lacking a top-10 PG, despite how much some members of this forum (largely the same ones that hated on Utah the past two years) railed against him in Minny.

You did. I said team as a whole. My points still stand. They are a far less talented team than the Blazers and most would even agree now. They are just better coached and it shows.
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The starters effectively are the team in the playoffs, where bench guys generally don't, and shouldn't, get more than spot minutes. So no, that part of your point doesn't stand. I'd call the talent levels pretty similar. The big difference is style of play. They've got a stout defense, while ours is mostly smoke and mirrors, having too many regulars that need covering for. Guess which one fails in the playoffs?
 
BonesJones said:
I read it from a legit source but apparently they were wrong and were 4th.

https://stats.nba.com/teams/touches/?sort=AVG_DRIB_PER_TOUCH&dir=1

Still though.

We're also bottom 5 in paint touches.
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Thanks for this link - pretty interesting stuff that confirms the eye test. Something I just confirmed was we were #1 in pull-up attempts and 27th in catch/shoot attempts. We are rank 27th is passes per game. We score off the dribble rather than off the pass. No surprise at all, but nice to see stats that prove the eye test.
 
riverman said:
We swept the Thunder.....Jazz didn't sweep them...don't think the Jazz would beat the Pels right now either.
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I mean, we won 2 against New Orleans so it's not like the playoffs extrapolate.
You can't adjust and excel offensively against Utah. Against New Orleans, I feel like we could've, it would've just been a completely new style of play that (for whatever reason) we weren't ready to play.
 
handiman said:
I'm one of the few on this board who said Utah would be good last year and wouldn't drop off much without Hayward this year, so save that line for someone else.

Favors was mostly out of favor until recently, but Ingles has been getting the attention of many for awhile now. Both were already under the current coaching staff, so make of it what you will. Rubio was the wild card. He would have gotten a serious look from any team lacking a top-10 PG, despite how much some members of this forum (largely the same ones that hated on Utah the past two years) railed against him in Minny.



The starters effectively are the team in the playoffs, where bench guys generally don't, and shouldn't, get more than spot minutes. So no, that part of your point doesn't stand. I'd call the talent levels pretty similar. The big difference is style of play. They've got a stout defense, while ours is mostly smoke and mirrors, having too many regulars that need covering for. Guess which one fails in the playoffs?
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People over on O-Live have been saying Utah was gonna be good since before the season started. They correctly said they'd be battling it out right down to the end with Portland for position in the playoffs.
 
Just fire him and grab an assistant coach from the Warriors. We need new schemes, but as importantly, we need higher expectations and to start a championship culture from the top down.
 
After we got swept, all the articles were about how Toronto was in a similar predicament and got out of it by changing their style of play. (The obvious response was: Did they improve or did the top teams in the East evaporate?) Their predictable second round implosion begs the question, can you change your style of play without changing your personnel, or do you always revert to old habits under pressure?
 
handiman said:
After we got swept, all the articles were about how Toronto was in a similar predicament and got out of it by changing their style of play. (The obvious response was: Did they improve or did the top teams in the East evaporate?) Their predictable second round implosion begs the question, can you change your style of play without changing your personnel, or do you always revert to old habits under pressure?
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It's because LeBron is having one of, if not the best playoff stretch of all time. Not because of anything Toronto is doing.
 
KingSpeed said:
Stotts beat Snyder twice this year. The first time snapped Utah's longest win streak of the season. The second cost Utah home court advantage.
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I wonder if there are Utah fans posting in forums that if not for their 11 game winning streak they would have been just barely an over .500 team. :devilwink:
 
Sarni said:
I don’t see how it’s even an argument that Snyder has done better this season than Stotts. His two best offensive players left them in the offseason and were replaced by a player who has been a major disappointment for Minnesota for the past few years and couldn’t shoot and a 13th overall pick rookie. They were 19-28 at one point and nobody expected them to even get close to playoffs let alone finish 48-34 and go to the second round at the expense of OKC.

He has basically made them all much better than they were ever perceived. Players like O’Neale and Ingles weren’t even considered good enough for this league at an advanced age and Ingles has probably been a top 10 small forward this season if not better than that. Rubio has been one of the best playmakers around for the last 2-3 months and Mitchell has probably been a top 20 player this season which is huge. This is like what Stotts did in 2015-16, have them compete against all odds. He should comfortably win the coach of the year now.
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To be fair, Rubio's last season in Minnesota almost mirrors his season this year in Utah.
 
BonesJones said:
It's because LeBron is having one of, if not the best playoff stretch of all time. Not because of anything Toronto is doing.
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Chicken and the egg. Did NOP's players all play the best offensive ball of their careers, or did our defense make it easy for them to get into a rhythm?
 
handiman said:
Chicken and the egg. Did NOP's players all play the best offensive ball of their careers, or did our defense make it easy for them to get into a rhythm?
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It wasn’t our defense, it was our offense... hard to defend when you are turning the hall over so much into fast breaks.
 
BonesJones said:
It's because LeBron is having one of, if not the best playoff stretch of all time. Not because of anything Toronto is doing.
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It's what Toronto is NOT doing. Whenever Bron starts to go off on them, they wilt under the pressure.
 
dviss1 said:
It's what Toronto is NOT doing. Whenever Bron starts to go off on them, they wilt under the pressure.
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They have the same problem Portland has. They have nobody to lean on besides their two guards and occasionally their center.
 
dviss1 said:
Untrue. They have the best bench in the NBA.
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1. No they don’t.

2. Was I talking about their bench? I was talking about their entire roster. They’ve had the same issue every season. Name one player on their team they can go to when the guys I listed aren’t scoring. They don’t have anyone.
 
handiman said:
Chicken and the egg. Did NOP's players all play the best offensive ball of their careers, or did our defense make it easy for them to get into a rhythm?
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In game 2, LeBron made how many long mid-range fadeaways in a row? It's not Toronto's lack of defense.
 
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jlprk said:
Well, I haven't posted in about a month, so let's see...WHAT THE FUCK??? STOTTS IS STILL HERE!!!
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Yeh, it looks like it is not gonna happen, and as a result my fan interest has dropped to maybe it's lowest in 40 years. I mean, where is the hope? I had some hope we could make a trade at the deadline, when we still had some expiring contracts, or guys who would be restricted free agents, but nothing happened. I have had hope that we would add a big man coach or at least a guy who specialized in fundamentals. Hasn't happened. Despite Bones' valiant efforts, it's difficult to envision a trade that will drastically improve the team this summer. So, coaching was the one place I had hope that we could change and improve. Now...............?
 
blue9 said:
So, yet again, "Progressive" Portland lets other, more progressive outposts - such as Texas and Wisconsin - blaze new paths in equality (in the search for greatness!) while, themselves, choosing to remain staunchly in the good graces of the Old Boys Club.

http://www.nba.com/article/2018/05/...ucks-interview-becky-hammon-head-coaching-job
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and why would Portland want to take a risk on a person with zero head coaching experience? Let someone else see what she can do. Would you hire a male coach with limited assistant coach experience?
 
Mediocre Man said:
Why not? Status quo is not working
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Because the future best player to ever grace the Blazers Uni is in his prime? :dunno: Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying don't do it, just at least something one would assume to be considered.
 
BonesJones said:
In game 2, LeBron made how many long mid-range fadeaways in a row? It's not Toronto's lack of defense.
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Thus the chicken and the egg comment. You're looking at effect and ignoring that there might be a cause. Good defenses make it tough to find that rhythm in the first place. The league is full of shooters that can make the majority of their shots in practice. It's what they can do when guarded that sets them apart. The better the player, the less opportunity you can afford them or they'll torch you.
 
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