Marco Rubio

[speeds]

Announcement scheduled for Monday. If he decides to run he will go head-to-head with Jeb Bush in Florida.

I've seen the 43-year old mentioned as a VP candidate but as a foreigner I know little about him. Apparently he doesn't get along with Rand Paul?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/marc...idential-run-decision-april/story?id=30018722

 

[donkiez]

he is one of the better republican candidates, which is like being the best turd in the pool.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

He is thirsty as a motherfucker

 

[barfo]

He once castrated 500 sheep at a single sitting.

barfo

 

[e_blazer]

he is one of the better republican candidates, which is like being the best turd in the pool.

No reason to differentiate between Republicans and Democrats on that one.

 

[kjironman1]

Rubio is another republican that is kind of American. Romney of course wasn't born here and neither was McCain. Rubio at least was born here i guess but of course his parents were Cuban refugees. I don't get it? If this guy were born here today the Republicans would be calling him an Illegal Alien and would want him deported after he was jailed.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Rubio is another republican that is kind of American. Romney of course wasn't born here and neither was McCain. Rubio at least was born here i guess but of course his parents were Cuban refugees. I don't get it? If this guy were born here today the Republicans would be calling him an Illegal Alien and would want him deported after he was jailed.

"He's an anchor baby! It's BS that he gets free public schooling."

 

[kjironman1]

"He's an anchor baby! It's BS that he gets free public schooling."

Healthcare too? I'll bet he got free or reduced lunches.

 

[MarAzul]

He's an anchor baby! It's BS

Ha! I think he is an American just about the same as you and me.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

Rubio is another republican that is kind of American. Romney of course wasn't born here and neither was McCain. Rubio at least was born here i guess but of course his parents were Cuban refugees. I don't get it? If this guy were born here today the Republicans would be calling him an Illegal Alien and would want him deported after he was jailed.

Romney was born in Detroit actually. I know he spent a lot of time in Mexico, but he is from the Motor City.

 

[MarAzul]

sheep

Sheep aren't much fun, but Pirates now, that's a hoot! Especially when they blow hard.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

A Bush/Rubio ticket would be a formidable ticket for the Republicans.

 

[barfo]

Romney was born in Detroit actually. I know he spent a lot of time in Mexico, but he is from the Motor City.

I believe it was his dad that was born in Mexico. Because grandpappy fled this country to avoid giving up his N>1 wives.

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Ha! I think he is an American just about the same as you and me.

Still an anchor baby living off the government.

 

[MarAzul]

living off the government

That would be a yes.

 

[donkiez]

Sheep aren't much fun, but Pirates now, that's a hoot! Especially when the blow hard.

...... are we still talking politics?

 

[Denny Crane]

I'm not voting for him.

 

[maxiep]

Speaks well, but the resume is too thin.

I would like someone with executive experience. Bobby Jindal would be my first choice, Scott Walker second. No thanks to Jeb Bush, not because of the job he did in Florida, but because I dislike dynasties.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Ha! I think he is an American just about the same as you and me.

Wait, didn't you just say last week you didn't consider Obama a natural born citizen (besides the fact he was born here) yet Rubio is?

 

[MarAzul]

didn't consider Obama a natural born citizen

That's right. His father never became a citizen or even a resident. So, in that case Barrack was a British Citizen (Kenyan) by right of decent.
The exact thing that would eliminate a person as a Natural Born American. Hawaii is his place of birth and according to the 14th amendment that make him a US citizen
but it does not make him a Natural Born Citizen of the US, perhaps in Kenya, but not here.

Here is the quote from the Law of Nations;

"The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children;
and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion,
they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country,
it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country."

 

[MarAzul]

I dislike dynasties.

Agree.

 

[barfo]

That's right. His father never became a citizen or even a resident. So, in that case Barrack was a British Citizen (Kenyan) by right of decent.
The exact thing that would eliminate a person as a Natural Born American. Hawaii is his place of birth and according to the 14th amendment that make him a US citizen
but it does not make him a Natural Born Citizen of the US, perhaps in Kenya, but not here.

Here is the quote from the Law of Nations;

"The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children;
and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion,
they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country,
it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country."

This is such a silly argument because the "Law of Nations" is not our law, and we've already had that argument, but what the hell.
Please explain how Marco Rubio's father was a citizen at the time of Marco's birth.

barfo

 

[santeesioux]

I'm not voting for him either.

 

[MarAzul]

Rubio's father was a citizen at the time of Marco's birth

I don't think he was, but he was a resident, still is I take it. I don't know if he (Father) is a citizen or not.

 

[barfo]

I don't think he was, but he was a resident, still is I take it. I don't know if he (Father) is a citizen or not.

The father became a naturalized citizen when Marco was 4.

So, do you agree then that Marco Rubio (and Ted Cruz for that matter) is not a natural born citizen, and thus not eligible for the presidency?

Or is the "Law of Nations" not the final word on the subject?

barfo

 

[kjironman1]

That's right. His father never became a citizen or even a resident. So, in that case Barrack was a British Citizen (Kenyan) by right of decent.
The exact thing that would eliminate a person as a Natural Born American. Hawaii is his place of birth and according to the 14th amendment that make him a US citizen

Never mind the fact that he was born here. That never works.....

 

[MarAzul]

The father became a naturalized citizen when Marco was 4.

So, do you agree then that Marco Rubio (and Ted Cruz for that matter) is not a natural born citizen, and thus not eligible for the presidency?

Or is the "Law of Nations" not the final word on the subject?
barfo

Here is a paste from the 1790 Naturaliztion Act, the only other place "natural born citizen" is used.
I don't think there is any other US law to address Natural Born citizen. Other laws have address who becomes a citizen but not Natural born.

"In order to address one's good character, the law required two years of residence in the United States and one year in the state of residence, prior to applying for citizenship. When those requirements were met, an immigrant could file a Petition for Naturalization with "any common law court of record" having jurisdiction over his residence. Once convinced of the applicant’s good moral character, the court would administer an oath of allegiance to support the Constitution of the United States. The clerk of the court was to make a record of these proceedings, and "thereupon such person shall be considered as a citizen of the United States."

The Act also establishes the United States citizenship of certain children of citizens, born abroad, without the need for naturalization: "the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States".

 

[barfo]

Here is a paste from the 1790 Naturaliztion Act, the only other place "natural born citizen" is used.
I don't think there is any other US law to address Natural Born citizen. Other laws have address who becomes a citizen but not Natural born.

"In order to address one's good character, the law required two years of residence in the United States and one year in the state of residence, prior to applying for citizenship. When those requirements were met, an immigrant could file a Petition for Naturalization with "any common law court of record" having jurisdiction over his residence. Once convinced of the applicant’s good moral character, the court would administer an oath of allegiance to support the Constitution of the United States. The clerk of the court was to make a record of these proceedings, and "thereupon such person shall be considered as a citizen of the United States."

The Act also establishes the United States citizenship of certain children of citizens, born abroad, without the need for naturalization: "the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States".

The trouble with that (besides the 14th amendment and a bunch of other legal history) is that you are taking the residency requirement for naturalization, and suggesting that the same length of residency is required in order not to be tripped up by the 'never been resident' clause in the latter excerpt.

It seems to me a more straightforward interpretation of 'never been resident' is literally that: never been resident. Not 'never been resident for at least 2 years'.

The other problem is that Obama Sr. lived in the US from 1959 to 1964, so it's pretty hard to claim he wasn't ever a resident even by your twisted legal theory.

barfo

 

[kjironman1]

And of course the fact that he was born here trumps all that garbage. Oh yes...Being born here doesn't really matter right?

 

[MarAzul]

resident

Now you are being obtuse. Going to school is not being a resident and he had no intention of being a resident. The King of Jordan went to school here, he wasn't a resident.
I worked in England on a temporary Visa, but I was never a resident of the UK. I had about eight foreign nationals of several countries working here on temporary work visas, none were
ever considered US residents.