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[3RA1N1AC]

Exactly boogymen.

But... No more than Warren Buffett or George Soros or Spielberg or Geffen or Bloomberg, etc.

Do you really believe that their influence is the same as David Geffens?

 

[Denny Crane]

Do you really believe that their influence is the same as David Geffens?

Sure. Geffen only controls a huge bit of the media and raises or donates $millions to political campaigns and causes.

 

[Denny Crane]

In fact, Geffen:

http://blogs.forward.com/forward-thinking/153839/has-david-geffen-abandoned-obama/

In 2008, billionaire media mogul David Geffen was among Barack Obama’s most visible Hollywood supporters. A top-level fundraiser for the Obama campaign, Geffen hosted major Hollywood events and launched a tide-turning media attack against primary opponent Hillary Clinton.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Koch's are planning on spending around 1 Billion dollars in the run up to 2016.

let's see where geffen ends up

 

[Denny Crane]

Koch's are planning on spending around 1 Billion dollars in the run up to 2016.

let's see where geffen ends up

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...a44654-a513-11e4-a06b-9df2002b86a0_story.html

Correction: A headline on an earlier version of this story incorrectly suggested that the money would all be spent on the 2016 elections.The $889 million budget includes financing not just for politically active groups, but also for free-market think tanks, foundations and universities. It has been corrected.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...a44654-a513-11e4-a06b-9df2002b86a0_story.html

Correction: A headline on an earlier version of this story incorrectly suggested that the money would all be spent on the 2016 elections.The $889 million budget includes financing not just for politically active groups, but also for free-market think tanks, foundations and universities. It has been corrected.

Funding think tanks is exactly "shaping policy" like I said

Not sure your point. That has everything to do with the run up to the 2016 elections, and every election after.

Doing a little research, looks like the Koch's had 300+MM into 2014, not sure where geffen fell. I'm gonna guess well short of that. Bloomberg had about 20MM.

 

[Denny Crane]

Funding think tanks is exactly "shaping policy" like I said

Not sure your point. That has everything to do with the run up to the 2016 elections, and every election after.

Doing a little research, looks like the Koch's had 300+MM into 2014, not sure where geffen fell. I'm gonna guess well short of that. Bloomberg had about 20MM.

300mm, 20mm, same thing basically...

Funding media companies is "shaping policy."

Koch's. Boogymen.

The WaPost article says they're funding universities, too. Sounds like philanthropy more than anything else, but lumped as "political" spending to, you know, boogyman thing.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

The billion dollars "sounds like philanthropy more than anything else"

I seriously can't tell if you're trolling or being glib.

 

[Denny Crane]

The billion dollars "sounds like philanthropy more than anything else"

I seriously can't tell if you're trolling or being glib.

All I'm seeing is the claims being "corrected" on WaPost.

If you have a real breakdown of the spending, produce it. Otherwise it could be maximum $2500 per candidate donations, $25,000 to political parties, and the rest to universities.

 

[Denny Crane]

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000186&cycle=2012

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Yeah, it could be burlap sacks full of krugerrands. Except I don't actually think that. Theres more to swinging an election than donating to candidates. You have to understand that, its common sense.

"WASHINGTON — Top officials in the Koch brothers' political organization Monday released a staggering $889 million budget to fund the activities of the billionaires' sprawling network ahead of the 2016 presidential contest.

The budget, which pays for everything from advertising and data-gathering technology to grass-roots activism, was released to donors attending the annual winter meeting"

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...9-million-budget-for-next-two-years/22363809/

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...a44654-a513-11e4-a06b-9df2002b86a0_story.html

Correction: A headline on an earlier version of this story incorrectly suggested that the money would all be spent on the 2016 elections.The $889 million budget includes financing not just for politically active groups, but also for free-market think tanks, foundations and universities. It has been corrected.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.kochfamilyfoundations.org/foundationsdhk.asp

Boogyman.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I have zero idea what those posts are meant to illustrate. That they donate money to conservative think tanks?

No shit!

 

[Denny Crane]

I have zero idea what those posts are meant to illustrate. That they donate money to conservative think tanks?

No shit!

I don't think PBS is a right wing think tank.

I do think to make them boogymen, those counting the money they spend on "politics" count those donations.