Marcus the Mentor

[GrandKenyon6]

Marcus Williams is a terrible player with no future here and probably no future anywhere. I wish we would just waive him.

 

[Dumpy]

I'd like to see what Marcus can do with another chance. He's still very, very young with enormous talent. He was poised to take a step forward last season, but his foot injury interfered with his development. I can understand why he was frustrated last season; by all accounts he had worked hard in the off-season, and then he was back at square one. Remember, after Kidd was traded and before Devin was healthy, he was thrust into a starter's role without any preparation, and he did OK. They were 3-4 with Marcus as a starter, after he had played a TOTAL of about SIX MINUTES in the previous four games. He also continued to play well for the next week aftee Devin took over, when he was still playing more than 20 minutes a game. Just look at his game log from Deb. 13 through March 8. He still has the potential to be a pretty good backup, and a solid rotation player. A lot of the complaints seem to stem from his personality and the fact that he doesn't seem to play well when he just plays for a handful of minutes per game. He's still just a kid, playing a position of leadership.

I have my doubts, though.

 

[footswalker]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Jun 30 2008, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Jun 30 2008, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok, can people just get off of Marcus. The kid has talent and he does need to work but maybe Frank is runing him?</div>
Maybe.

Another idea is that you check this stat sheet and find his name on it. Now look in the 7th column.

He didn't look much better this year, and his injuries certainly didn't help that.
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Ha, pretty funny that guys like Aaron Gray, Coby Carl and J.J. Redick all had higher verticals than Marcus. And just about everyone had less body fat.

 

[ly_yng]

Lets get some perspective here.

Everyone agrees he is talented. Everyone agrees he's a terrible defender (which isn't really a death knell if you're a point guard, and can also be improved). And (hopefully) everyone agrees that point guard is the toughest NBA position to learn, with some guys taking 4-5 years to really get it down. Some players pick it up quicker, but I think we can all agree that Marcus didn't show a whole lot maturity over his college career. I mean, he couldn't even get in shape for the combine measurements. So, I think we can all agree he, at least entering the NBA, had a lot of growing to do as a person.

Now, for some people that growth never happens. But let's not forget the kid is 22. It's not like a perennial bad attitude is a forgone conclusion yet. Honestly, it seems more like his issues are tied to confidence than pride (granted, in the NBA, that can be just as bad: see Wright, Antoine).

All I'm saying is, Marcus could certainly mope himself out of the league, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he managed to turn his career around on another team. It's a little early to pass final judgment.

 

[No.1]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jul 1 2008, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lets get some perspective here.

Everyone agrees he is talented. Everyone agrees he's a terrible defender (which isn't really a death knell if you're a point guard, and can also be improved). And (hopefully) everyone agrees that point guard is the toughest NBA position to learn, with some guys taking 4-5 years to really get it down. Some players pick it up quicker, but I think we can all agree that Marcus didn't show a whole lot maturity over his college career. I mean, he couldn't even get in shape for the combine measurements. So, I think we can all agree he, at least entering the NBA, had a lot of growing to do as a person.

Now, for some people that growth never happens. But let's not forget the kid is 22. It's not like a perennial bad attitude is a forgone conclusion yet. Honestly, it seems more like his issues are tied to confidence than pride (granted, in the NBA, that can be just as bad: see Wright, Antoine).

All I'm saying is, Marcus could certainly mope himself out of the league, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he managed to turn his career around on another team. It's a little early to pass final judgment.</div>

Nuff said. Great post

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jul 1 2008, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lets get some perspective here.

Everyone agrees he is talented. Everyone agrees he's a terrible defender (which isn't really a death knell if you're a point guard, and can also be improved). And (hopefully) everyone agrees that point guard is the toughest NBA position to learn, with some guys taking 4-5 years to really get it down. Some players pick it up quicker, but I think we can all agree that Marcus didn't show a whole lot maturity over his college career. I mean, he couldn't even get in shape for the combine measurements. So, I think we can all agree he, at least entering the NBA, had a lot of growing to do as a person.

Now, for some people that growth never happens. But let's not forget the kid is 22. It's not like a perennial bad attitude is a forgone conclusion yet. Honestly, it seems more like his issues are tied to confidence than pride (granted, in the NBA, that can be just as bad: see Wright, Antoine).

All I'm saying is, Marcus could certainly mope himself out of the league, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he managed to turn his career around on another team. It's a little early to pass final judgment.</div>

He's still got Josh on the same team as him. That might help his confidence issues, knowing you have a guy on the team who you've known for at least 5 years.

 

[danxcr]

look i think marcus deserves another chance... but if there is a team willin to take him and it makes sense for us (the nets) then i dont see why not... but give him another half a season and see how he is goin to be...