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THE HCP said:
You want reality homie…. My sons friend from HS just got shot and killed here this weekend. Thats reality.
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I hear you, and it sucks. That's the reality we live in. Bad guys have guns. Literally, millions of them.

Once you remove the guns from the bad guys, then we can talk about making law abiding citizens give theirs up. Or making it harder for poor people to get guns.

Maybe once we get police to respond sooner than 20 minutes. And get them to stop harassing the people who called once they do get there.

Until then you're just talking about creating more victims.

I had a high school friend drown in the Clackamas River at High Rocks. I've had 2 HS friends die in car accidents. One of my daughter's HS friends died in a car accident just a few months ago.

My friend at work lost his nephew when he wrecked a side-by-side in his back yard home alone.

Reality fucking sucks.

My other daughter's best friend's grandmother had some guys breaking into her house about 6 months ago. Heard them going through her stuff downstairs so quietly got her shotgun out of the safe and sat on her bed with it pointed at the door. When the guy opened the door and saw the gun he about shit himself and screamed something that included "GUN!" and bolted. She heard at least 2 people tearing their way out of the house. She called the police to report it. About 25 minutes later they arrived.

I've posted the numbers. There are at LEAST hundreds of thousands (but most estimates say millions) of defensive gun uses in this country every year. It happens every day. Many times per day. But scaring off a low life with your gun doesn't even get reported often times, and if it does get reported it almost never makes the news.

If we say the number of defensive gun uses is 1 million, and only 5% of those would have ended in death without a gun to stop things (just throwing out fairly conservative numbers)... That would be more than the number of gun deaths we experience now.
 
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Phatguysrule said:
I hear you, and it sucks. That's the reality we live in. Bad guys have guns. Literally, millions of them.

Once you remove the guns from the bad guys, then we can talk about making law abiding citizens give theirs up. Or making it harder for poor people to get guns.

Maybe once we get police to respond sooner than 20 minutes. And get them to stop harassing the people who called once they do get there.

Until then you're just talking about creating more victims.

I had a high school friend drown in the Clackamas River at High Rocks. I've had 2 HS friends die in car accidents. One of my daughter's HS friends died in a car accident just a few months ago.

My friend at work lost his nephew when he wrecked a side-by-side in his back yard home alone.

Reality fucking sucks.

My other daughter's best friend's grandmother had some guys breaking into her house about 6 months ago. Heard them going through her stuff downstairs so quietly got her shotgun out of the safe and sat on her bed with it pointed at the door. When the guy opened the door and saw the gun he about shit himself and screamed something that included "GUN!" and bolted. She heard at least 2 people tearing their way out of the house. She called the police to report it. About 25 minutes later they arrived.

I've posted the numbers. There are at LEAST hundreds of thousands (but most estimates say millions) of defensive gun uses in this country every year. It happens every day. Many times per day. But scaring off a low life with your gun doesn't even get reported often times, and if it does get reported it almost never makes the news.

If we say the number of defensive gun uses is 1 million, and only 5% of those would have ended in death without a gun to stop things (just throwing out fairly conservative numbers)... That would be more than the number of gun deaths we experience now.
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Guns are still killing people. Good or bad.
 
PDXFonz said:
So like an alternate reality where he’s not Biggie Smalls; he’s Christopher Wallace and he sings songs on TV shows like Lamb Chop?
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The song that never ends.
 
My grandfather was shot dead. He took some money out of the bank, quite a bit, and some guys were watching for just that in the parking lot. They followed him home and ran up into his house behind him and they held him up at gunpoint. He told them he wasn't giving them his money and to fuck off and they shot him in the head.
 
Chris Craig said:
My grandfather was shot dead. He took some money out of the bank, quite a bit, and some guys were watching for just that in the parking lot. They followed him home and ran up into his house behind him and they held him up at gunpoint. He told them he wasn't giving them his money and to fuck off and they shot him in the head.
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OMG. I'm so sorry.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
OMG. I'm so sorry.
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Yeah, it was pretty shocking. He was the nicest fucking guy in the world. Would give you the shirt off his back. He drew a line.

They got the guys or at least one of them. They took a bunch of stuff from his house and dropped a some outside, leaving some prints and one of them smoked a cigarette out front and left the butt.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I hear you, and it sucks. That's the reality we live in. Bad guys have guns. Literally, millions of them.

Once you remove the guns from the bad guys, then we can talk about making law abiding citizens give theirs up. Or making it harder for poor people to get guns.

Maybe once we get police to respond sooner than 20 minutes. And get them to stop harassing the people who called once they do get there.

Until then you're just talking about creating more victims.

I had a high school friend drown in the Clackamas River at High Rocks. I've had 2 HS friends die in car accidents. One of my daughter's HS friends died in a car accident just a few months ago.

My friend at work lost his nephew when he wrecked a side-by-side in his back yard home alone.

Reality fucking sucks.

My other daughter's best friend's grandmother had some guys breaking into her house about 6 months ago. Heard them going through her stuff downstairs so quietly got her shotgun out of the safe and sat on her bed with it pointed at the door. When the guy opened the door and saw the gun he about shit himself and screamed something that included "GUN!" and bolted. She heard at least 2 people tearing their way out of the house. She called the police to report it. About 25 minutes later they arrived.

I've posted the numbers. There are at LEAST hundreds of thousands (but most estimates say millions) of defensive gun uses in this country every year. It happens every day. Many times per day. But scaring off a low life with your gun doesn't even get reported often times, and if it does get reported it almost never makes the news.

If we say the number of defensive gun uses is 1 million, and only 5% of those would have ended in death without a gun to stop things (just throwing out fairly conservative numbers)... That would be more than the number of gun deaths we experience now.
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Someone mentions a kid getting killed, and this is your response? How about just gosh, that really sucks, I'm sorry, and then sit it out for a bit. Fuck.
 
This is the bitter truth about the gun debate.

It’s more about mental healthcare than it is about gun control; and there isn’t anyone crazier than a pro-gun POS who doesn’t realize it’s a problem. When the truth is if it’s their daughter they are burying tomorrow, they would never feel the same way when they look at their gun case. Whether they are thinking about how they could have prevented it or whatever.

Mental health is a deeply intricate problem worldwide. People have tried to claim statistics from countries where gun prohibition laws and regulations are stricter. But they don’t mention the incidences of other occurrences without guns.

If nobody wanted to shoot somebody else, guns would not be an issue for us.
Military recruitment would be down.
Eventually the military would be irrelevant.

Violence is systematically imbedded into us. Violence is our history.
 
Chris Craig said:
My grandfather was shot dead. He took some money out of the bank, quite a bit, and some guys were watching for just that in the parking lot. They followed him home and ran up into his house behind him and they held him up at gunpoint. He told them he wasn't giving them his money and to fuck off and they shot him in the head.
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Man, that's terrible, Chris. I'm so sorry. Were you close to your grandfather...and did they catch the guys?
 
RR7 said:
Someone mentions a kid getting killed, and this is your response? How about just gosh, that really sucks, I'm sorry, and then sit it out for a bit. Fuck.
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I did that the first time it was mentioned in the other thread.

You don't just get to shut down all conversations you're uncomfortable with because a kid was killed. Let's be adults here.
 
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