Matthews: Trail Blazers ‘never made an offer’

[0-Our!]

"He had hoped he could return to the city that had embraced him, to the team with players he considered brothers, to the franchise where he grew into one of the NBA’s most well-rounded and respected shooting guards.

But in the end, after five seasons, the feeling was not mutual. He was greeted with silence. No phone call. No text messages. The Blazers never made an offer.

“I was pissed off,” Matthews said. “I felt disrespected.”

I didn't know that Blazer's FO didn't call or text him; did u guys know this? Even IF it was planned all along (which of course I don't know whether that's true or not), that was a dick move by PA & crew

This short article goes on to say:

"The only chance the Blazers would pursue Matthews, top executive Neil Olshey later explained, was if free agent LaMarcus Aldridge chose to return, maintaining Portland as a playoff-caliber team."

^ when did they let Wes know this?

 

[Nikolokolus]

I would imagine they probably said very little while they were trying to convince LaMarcus not to break up with us. Lots of "Please hold on for just another day or two, while negotiate with Aldridge's camp."

So it's not a "dick move" it's a business. If Wesley wants to take that as disrespect I guess that's his prerogative, but on the other hand the dude just got a max deal, so I don't feel too badly for him.

 

[HailBlazers]

Ish?

 

[0-Our!]

I would imagine they probably said very little while they were trying to convince LaMarcus not to break up with us. Lots of "Please hold on for just another day or two, while negotiate with Aldridge's camp."

So it's not a "dick move" it's a business. If Wesley wants to take that as disrespect I guess that's his prerogative, but on the other hand the dude just got a max deal, so I don't feel too badly for him.

They should've at least texted Wes & said "The only chance the Blazers would pursue Matthews ... was if free agent LaMarcus Aldridge chose to return." Now he & we could've guessed this but sometimes, you've just got to hear things (i.e. if u love someone, they know but... u gotta say it to them sometimes to let them know; it's good policy). You're right, it's a business & we all understand that but you've got to show the proper ppl respect at the same time.

I've felt/feel good for Wes that he got paid just as u mention

 

[KingSpeed]

This sucks

 

[BBert]

"He had hoped he could return to the city that had embraced him, to the team with players he considered brothers, to the franchise where he grew into one of the NBA’s most well-rounded and respected shooting guards.

But in the end, after five seasons, the feeling was not mutual. He was greeted with silence. No phone call. No text messages. The Blazers never made an offer.

“I was pissed off,” Matthews said. “I felt disrespected.”

I didn't know that Blazer's FO didn't call or text him; did u guys know this? Even IF it was planned all along (which of course I don't know whether that's true or not), that was a dick move by PA & crew

Yes. Yes we did. http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/imagine-what-kind-of-dog-i-will-be-now.288211/

 

[0-Our!]

Yes. Yes we did. http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/imagine-what-kind-of-dog-i-will-be-now.288211/

Aaahhh... sorry folks, I saw the thread title but didn't read it. I don't read them all, my bad

Again sorry, everybody & their SlyPokerDog probably already knew this then except for me

 

[BBert]

Aaahhh... sorry folks, I saw the thread title but didn't read it. I don't read them all, my bad

I wasn't trying to be a jerk. Just jerk your chain a little. It's all good. Your thread has a different focus for conversation than the other one.

 

[0-Our!]

I wasn't trying to be a jerk. Just jerk your chain a little. It's all good. Your thread has a different focus for conversation than the other one.

I didn't take it that way I do appreciate u letting me know; if I would read more... I'd b a little more aware! Hahaha!

 

[BBert]

As I said in a different thread, I think the Blazers 'should' have kept in touch with Wes' agent and explained their shift in strategy and why they weren't going to match a max contract offer.

That is completely different than not extending an offer. Which is technically what Wes is saying they didn't do (I guess).

Whether or not the Blazers reached out to Wes, it's Wes' agent's job to reach out to the Blazers and have a conversation about a new contract. If his agent didn't contact the Blazers, that's on him.

So...for Wes to claim he's going to be a bad dog because the Blazers didn't talk to him (or his agent) at all -- I'm going to have to call bullshit on that.

 

[0-Our!]

Nothing to c here folks, let's just move it along

 

[0-Our!]

As I said in a different thread, I think the Blazers 'should' have kept in touch with Wes' agent and explained their shift in strategy and why they weren't going to match a max contract offer.

That is completely different than not extending an offer. Which is technically what Wes is saying they didn't do (I guess).

Whether or not the Blazers reached out to Wes, it's Wes' agent's job to reach out to the Blazers and have a conversation about a new contract. If his agent didn't contact the Blazers, that's on him.

So...for Wes to claim he's going to be a bad dog because the Blazers didn't talk to him (or his agent) at all -- I'm going to have to call bullshit on that.

I'm w/ u on this; I think you've got the truth here. You've changed my mind & Neil/PA & the gang r off the hook-ish; I rescind my "dick move" tag & go w/ ur take & HailBlazers stance of "ish."

 

[julius]

I liked Wes, but he's not exactly a player I fear. Especially coming after a torn Achilles.

 

[BBert]

Well...I'm not saying Blazers management wasn't dicks in how they handled it. I don't know if they explained anything to Wes, or just said, 'Don't call us, we'll call you (not)". The Vulcan Blazers haven't been know for sensitivity towards employees. I'm just saying Wes may be overstating the idea that there were zero conversations.

The Blazers didn't offer a contract, that we know. And that's probably enough to 'motivate' Wes.

 

[BBert]

I liked Wes, but he's not exactly a player I fear. Especially coming after a torn Achilles.

Gotta say that was kind of my reaction too. Even before the injury, it sometimes pained me to watch him move around the court. It was all heart and determination. He wasn't very mobile before (for a SG). We'll see about after. Not worth a $17m/yr risk, IMO, and better to go full rebuild in any case.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Gotta say that was kind of my reaction too. Even before the injury, it sometimes pained me to watch him move around the court. It was all heart and determination. He wasn't very mobile before (for a SG). We'll see about after. Not worth a $17m/yr risk, IMO, and better to go full rebuild in any case.

as much as it pains me to agree i have to. plus henderson highlights have me rock hard still.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I wonder, really, how much of a step-down Henderson is from Matthews. Looking at their comparatives, it seems that the biggest difference between the two is the three-point shooting, and perhaps defense. Is the gap between the two worth $11M?

 

[Natebishop3]

This is the summer of stroking the giant egos. Take your massive contract and go to Dallas. He was a role player. He's not gonna get some huge send off from the organization.


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[BBert]

This is the summer of stroking the giant egos. Take your massive contract and go to Dallas. He was a role player. He's not gonna get some huge send off from the organization.


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His comments about wanting to be the "go-to guy" or whatever he said at the end of the season did kind of puzzle me. Between wanting to be a featured star in the offense, and wanting a max contract, I think the hand writing was on the wall. I wish him good luck in Dallas.

I think the Blazers paid him extremely well and gave him a vital supporting role in the offense that enabled him to showcase himself into an insane contract.

I don't get his statements that he wasn't appreciated.

 

[BBert]

I wonder, really, how much of a step-down Henderson is from Matthews. Looking at their comparatives, it seems that the biggest difference between the two is the three-point shooting, and perhaps defense. Is the gap between the two worth $11M?

Definitely a different type of athleticism and a different style of play. We'll miss Wes' three point daggers, but I'm looking forward to a more athletic, slashing team.

 

[Denny Crane]

My take is Wes let it known he wanted and expected a much bigger contract than the Blazers would even consider offering. Why would they make him some low ball offer?

 

[Natebishop3]

His comments about wanting to be the "go-to guy" or whatever he said at the end of the season did kind of puzzle me. Between wanting to be a featured star in the offense, and wanting a max contract, I think the hand writing was on the wall. I wish him good luck in Dallas.

I think the Blazers paid him extremely well and gave him a vital supporting role in the offense that enabled him to showcase himself into an insane contract.

I don't get his statements that he wasn't appreciated.

He made it abundantly clear he wanted 15+ before free agency started. We weren't gonna pay that. It sounds like he was upset that he wasn't one of Neil's first calls on July 1st. So Neil was supposed to call him up and say Wes wasn't a priority? Fuckin delusional.


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[Pinwheel1]

I wonder, really, how much of a step-down Henderson is from Matthews. Looking at their comparatives, it seems that the biggest difference between the two is the three-point shooting, and perhaps defense. Is the gap between the two worth $11M?

Thanks for the comparatives. No doubt Wes was a stud from long distance. (and his 2 pt % was excellent as well-which surprised me)

Wes played about 5 minutes more per game. Looking at the Per 36 minutes stats, Hendo's compared slightly better in rebounding, assists, and blocks. Wes had slightly more steals

Nice to see that Hendo compares well at the line at around 85%, (Wes at around 75%)

 

[Mediocre Man]

Yes, we knew this already. Olshey told us he was told if LA left he would not be back. End of story

 

[Denny Crane]

Henderson is a solid vet replacement, but his 3pt shooting is significantly worse at .331 last season and .309 for his career.

I don't expect him to become a great 3pt shooter all of a sudden.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Henderson is a solid vet replacement, but his 3pt shooting is significantly worse at .331 last season and .309 for his career.

I don't expect him to become a great 3pt shooter all of a sudden.

However, he's over 44% from the corners over the past two seasons, and shooting a greater percentage of his three's from those spots each year. As long as he lets Dame, CJ,and Meyers handle 3's from above the break, he'll likely be quite serviceable.

 

[Denny Crane]

However, he's over 44% from the corners over the past two seasons, and shooting a greater percentage of his three's from those spots each year. As long as he lets Dame, CJ,and Meyers handle 3's from above the break, he'll likely be quite serviceable.

So to defend him, all a guy has to do is stand in the corner.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

So to defend him, all a guy has to do is stand in the corner.

Yes, because offensive and defensive schemes in the NBA are that simple.

I'll tell you the same thing I tell my 9-year-old: playing dumb doesn't accomplish anything but irritating the people with whom you're speaking.

 

[santeesioux]

I'm glad they didn't, can you imagine paying him 15 mil with this current roster? That much money to a guy on a treadmill team? At least we don't have any bad contracts for the rebuild.

 

[Denny Crane]

Yes, because offensive and defensive schemes in the NBA are that simple.

I'll tell you the same thing I tell my 9-year-old: playing dumb doesn't accomplish anything but irritating the people with whom you're speaking.

You couldn't guard Wes by standing in the corner. It is that simple.