Maybe David Lee does make sense

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I like Kirk Hinrich, but I now question if he's going to be available. I'm not completely sold on Andre Miller and how he would fit in with the offense.

I'm really coming around to the idea that we don't need a proto-typical point guard. Brandon and Hedo can manage the playmaking for a little over half the game, especially in the fourth quarter. Jerryd, Rudy, and Patty can handle the guard position the remainder of the minutes.

I don't want to lose Batum's hustle and defense in the starting line up, and I'm excited to see what Hedo can do for Batum's offense. I'm imagining Batum remaining with the starters, giving us a line-up of Brandon, Batum, Hedo, LA, and Greg. Batum can guard the best/quickest perimeter player with Bayless ready in waiting to spell him when/if he tires.

This leaves Jerryd, Rudy, and Joel as guys I want coming off the bench, with Rudy getting the bulk of remaining backcourt minutes and ... drum roll please ... David Lee getting the bulk of the minutes coming off the bench in the front court.

Would this be successful?

Do we have to get a true point guard?

Many teams have won championships without one. Can we?
 
It sure seems as if David Lee has been a target of Pritchard's for a long while, just like Hedo.

Travis and Blake to New York for a re-signed David Lee?
 
This leaves Jerryd, Rudy, and Joel as guys I want coming off the bench, with Rudy getting the bulk of remaining backcourt minutes and ... drum roll please ... David Lee getting the bulk of the minutes coming off the bench in the front court.

If you have Przybilla as a key reserve, how does David Lee get the bulk of the reserve front court minutes? That's the problem...if you have Przybilla and Lee, neither is going to get near starter minutes. Przybilla might be okay with that, but Lee is unlikely to be. Further, Lee is really not a legitimate center. Giving him significant minutes at center would be a downgrade. Giving him only the power forward minutes that LMA leaves on the table would mean getting 10-12 MPG.
 
I'd much rather have a guy like Turiaf now instead of Lee. Turiaf would be more willing to accept that role of 10-15 mins per game, while we'd just be wasting a talent like Lee making a ton of money on the bench.
 
If you have Przybilla as a key reserve, how does David Lee get the bulk of the reserve front court minutes? That's the problem...if you have Przybilla and Lee, neither is going to get near starter minutes. Przybilla might be okay with that, but Lee is unlikely to be. Further, Lee is really not a legitimate center. Giving him significant minutes at center would be a downgrade. Giving him only the power forward minutes that LMA leaves on the table would mean getting 10-12 MPG.

Well crap. I hadn't thought clearly about the minutes evidently. I can't make it work.
 
If you can move spare parts for David Lee: do it. He's good and he would provide production irrespective of the position and/or the role he's asked to play.

Joel and Oden have been hurt pretty consistently the last few years, and Alridge is likely to get bumped and bruised, too... getting Lee on the (relative) cheap and setting up a four man big man rotation would be worth trying.

I'd prefer an upgrade at the PG spot, but I prefer David Lee to hanging on to Outlaw and expecting second rounders to be effective power forwards.

Ed o.
 
Good read on Lee.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/news/story?id=5314277

OVERALL ASSESSMENT

Even though it comes a year later he intended, David Lee will finally get his big payday this summer. The 27-year-old failed to land a multi-year contract as a restricted free agent last offseason but, after a 20-and-10 season, that might have been a blessing in disguise.


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David Lee, PF/C

AGE: 27
HT: 6-9
WT: 240
WING: 7-0
VERT: 32½ inches


PPG: 13.0
RPG: 9.6
BPG: 0.4
FG% .557
FT% .774


WHAT HE'S WORTH: 4 years, $40 million
WHAT HE'LL GET: 5 years, $60 million

GOOD FITS: Bulls, Suns, Nets, Heat, Knicks
LESS THAN IDEAL: Kings, Clippers, Timberwolves




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NEXT-LEVEL STATS

PER: 22.0 (14th in NBA)
EWA: 17.5 wins (5th)
Usage Rate: 23.8 percent of team poss. (40th)
Off. Rating: 116 pts. per 100 poss. (NBA average: 108)
Def. Rating: 108 pts. allowed per 100 (NBA average: 108)
Off. Rebound Rate: 8.4 percent of rebounds while on floor
Def. Rebound Rate: 27.6 percent of rebounds while on floor
Tot. Rebound Rate: 17.9 percent of rebounds while on floor

Adjusted plus/minus: -3.8 (250th)
... indicates the player's plus/minus, adjusted to account for both strength of teammates and the opponents on the floor with a player over the course of the season.




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RELIABILITY RATING

A composite rating that quantifies a player's offensive dependability on a 1 to 100 scale after considering efficiency, shot creation, playing time and clutch performance. [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1966"]LeBron James[/URL] is a 98, [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2177"]David West[/URL] is a 75 and [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3970"]DeMarre Carroll[/URL] is a 10.
ComponentStat%RankCLUTCH22.4 points per 48 clutch mins.65USAGE23.8 percent of team poss.77EFFICIENCY116 points per 100 poss.86RUN37.3 minutes per game91



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DEPRECIATION

Career Regular-Season Games: 368
Missed Regular-Season Games: 27
Durability Percentage: 91.7
Injury Concerns: None
Injury Risk: Mild; minor issues with right knee

CAREER SUMMARY

Despite being selected 30th overall in 2005, David Lee may end up as the NBA's highest scoring Florida Gator of all-time. Mike Miller currently has the edge in career points per game with 13.7 to Lee's 13.0 but that figures to change as Lee enters his prime and Miller phases out of the league.






Along with Carlos Boozer and Amare Stoudemire, Lee completes the free agent triumvirate of scoring power forwards who can't play defense. However, Lee distinguishes himself from Boozer and Stoudemire with his will to improve his game and all-out effort that enamored the New York Knicks' fans.


Behind Lee's hustle, though, there's also a player who has made himself into an impressively skilled scorer and one of the most efficient big men in the league.


After three years in New York, Lee developed a reputation as a clean-up artist on the block without a complementary midrange game. That all changed this past season, in which he shot nearly 400 jumpers between 16-to-23 feet -- more than his first three years combined -- and ranked among the league leaders with a 43.4 percent conversion rate, according to Hoopdata.com.


Lee unlocked his scoring potential just in time for free agency, which should allow teams with elite point guards to target him as a versatile screen counterpart and not just a glorified rebounder. According to Synergy Sports Technology, Lee is already one of the best pick-and-roll big men in the business, averaging 1.31 points after receiving the ball on a pick-and-roll, better than any of his counterparts in free agency. (That efficiency rate helps refute arguments that his stats are inflated by coach Mike D'Antoni's system.)


But even with his new scoring arsenal, Lee hasn't lost his touch on the boards. The former slam dunk contest winner at the McDonald's All-American game uses his underrated athleticism to position himself well for rebounding opportunities. At that point, it's all about effort -- something Lee rarely lacks. Only Dwight Howard collected more defensive rebounds than Lee this past season, and the Florida alum consistently finds himself among the league leaders in rebounding rate (the percentage of missed shots a player rebounds while on the floor).


Up to this point, Lee sounds like he's worth a max contract. However, as is the case with Boozer and Stoudemire, Lee's defensive liabilities eclipse much of his offensive firepower.


Teams make it a nightly priority to abuse Lee on the block. In fact, according to Synergy, he faced more post-up situations per game than any other player in the NBA last season -- and with good reason. More often than not, on 51.1 percent of post-ups, in fact, Lee either fails to stop his man on the block or sends him to the line, ranking him as one of the worst defending big men in the league among those who play big minutes.


Lee does have one advantage on D over the guys he'll be competing against for free agency dollars. "I think Lee has a better motor than [Stoudemire and Boozer]," one league exec said. "So he probably overcomes more of his deficiencies with his energy, athleticism and hustle."


But as much as Lee's work ethic has fueled the development of his midrange jumper, it has yet to transform his defensive game. As much as teams like effort, they pay for results. And for that reason, it's hard to see a team offering Lee near max money, despite his great offensive efficiency.


One league exec put it this way: "I really don't feel confident that if you sign David Lee, your fans are going to say, 'Oh wow -- this two year period of absolute futility was worth it.'"


But after considering the splash premium that Stoudemire will likely receive, Lee could be a real bargain this summer. By many measures, including John Hollinger's player efficiency rating (PER), Lee even ranks as the better player of the two. And that's before one considers Lee's spotless injury record.


FINDING THE RIGHT FIT

Whereas Boozer and Stoudemire have played on the playoff stage year after year, Lee has never had that opportunity nor the personnel to propel him there. But that inexperience could actually be a draw for some teams.


"Lee didn't play with anyone who made him better, so that's intriguing," one league source said. "He's one of those guys who may have some latent upside just because you've never seen him play with a really good player."
So who will bring out that hidden upside?


Even without a creative point guard to cultivate his scoring potential, Lee remains a fantastic option in the pick-and-roll. In that sense, he's a good fit in Phoenix, should Stoudemire bolt and the Suns can find a taker for Leandro Barbosa and the $14 million left on his contract. Lee brings a lot of the same skills as Amare, but he'll come at a discount.


Lee could conceivably pair up with Derrick Rose in Chicago, where he'd also give the Bulls the scoring big man they've long desired, albeit not one who'll go to work on the low block. And Joakim Noah could help cover up Lee's defensive weaknesses inside.


The New Jersey Nets can also complement Lee with an inside-out tandem of former All-Star point guard Devin Harris and budding star center Brook Lopez. New head coach Avery Johnson could covet the Lee and his grit over pricier alternatives, while leaving room for another big signing. But the Nets may instead upgrade at Lee's position through the draft on Thursday night.


The Knicks may not possess the existing personnel to compete with the Bulls or the Nets, but they have the luxury of knowing Lee's game better than anyone else. And they finally have the cap room to surround him with the talent he deserves.


One thing's for sure: Lee won't bring a team a championship on his own. But he won't sink his next franchise with the weight of an undeserved contract, either.


Tom Haberstroh is a regular contributer to ESPN Insider. Data courtesy of Synergy Sports Technology, DraftExpress.com and Hoopdata.com.
 
David Lee is not a backup.

Finally. Someone who posts with some common sense.

Lee is not, and will not be a back-up. Nor should he be. Period. In order to bring him in, LA leaves. Now, if you want to discuss a sign & trade- LA for Lee, then we can talk about it. I know ABM & I had this discussion the other night and he seems to prefer Lee as he considers LA a "liability" in the playoffs. As for me, I see advantages and disadvantages to each player. I'll take either one.
 
BeerBoy, this has to stop. You have made about the third grade A post in the last week and I'm bloody sick & tired of liking posts made by Beaver fans. So knock it off.

That said, what an interesting set of stats.
 
Finally. Someone who posts with some common sense.

Lee is not, and will not be a back-up. Nor should he be. Period. In order to bring him in, LA leaves. Now, if you want to discuss a sign & trade- LA for Lee, then we can talk about it. I know ABM & I had this discussion the other night and he seems to prefer Lee as he considers LA a "liability" in the playoffs. As for me, I see advantages and disadvantages to each player. I'll take either one.

I don't see NY wanting LaMarcus' overpaid contract.
 
Well, it's actually kind of a bargain for an above-average PF, if you're rebuilding in NYK. They're not getting Boozer, Lee, Amare, or anyone else worth mentioning for 10.7M next year.
 

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