McCain is a slimy bastard

[Fez Hammersticks]

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[Colonel Ronan]

Wow.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Family values. Gotta love 'em.

 

[huevonkiller]

Poor woman, that's pretty sad.

 

[44Thrilla]

I wonder when John is going to leave Cindy for his "soulmate" Sarah Palin.

 

[PapaG]

I can't blame the guy for divorcing her.

 

[44Thrilla]

I can't blame the guy for divorcing her.

Agreed.

 

[Shooter]

Sure doesn't sound very good. McCain seems to have been a cad who treated his ex-wife badly.

I'd still rank him behind Bill Clinton, who confessed to Monica Lewinsky that he had slept with "hundreds" of women during his marriage to Hillary. And Clinton's rakish behavior never seems to bother liberals who bash McCain.

 

[barfo]

Sure doesn't sound very good. McCain seems to have been a cad who treated his ex-wife badly.

I'd still rank him behind Bill Clinton, who confessed to Monica Lewinsky that he had slept with "hundreds" of women during his marriage to Hillary. And Clinton's rakish behavior never seems to bother liberals who bash McCain.

But would you rank him behind Obama, who by all accounts is a monogamous, devoted family man?

Family values, man, family values.

barfo

 

[Shooter]

But would you rank him behind Obama, who by all accounts is a monogamous, devoted family man?

Family values, man, family values.

Are you talking about the same Barack Obama who voted to kill babies who somehow managed to survive botched abortions? Is that the "family values" you're talking about?

 

[barfo]

Are you talking about the same Barack Obama who voted to kill babies who somehow managed to survive botched abortions? Is that the "family values" you're talking about?

You know what I'm talking about.

barfo

 

[maxiep]

Was that a review of how he cheated on his wife again and again after he came home from Vietnam? The line I heard from him was that his wife needed him to act like he's 40 and he acted like he was 25. It's not like he's proud of what he did. In fact, I've heard him say time and time again that the dissolution of his first marriage is entirely his fault.

 

[bodyman5001]

This is the kind of thing that makes me sick. As a person who would vote for McCain if forced to choose between the two, this is what bothers me.

The guy was a scumbag. I would call myself one if I did that stuff.

What I am saying is that why can't we get some people with morals to run in this country?

Why does everyone have to flip flop?

WHY WHY WHY WHY?

I saw a video of Cindy McCain that they played at the convention and she is the only one of the people involved in this race that I respect. I bet you could find skeletons in her closet too, but please don't post anything. Please?

 

[Masbee]

Are you talking about the same Barack Obama who voted to kill babies who somehow managed to survive botched abortions? Is that the "family values" you're talking about?

Booooooring.

 

[Денг Гордон]

Ross Perot, Eagle Scout. Pure class.

 

[mook]

This stuff doesn't matter. Did McCain know terrorists or pornographers when he was 8? Was he attending a madrassa when he was 9?

This is the sort of thing that morally disqualifies you from the presidency. Not how you treat the mother of your three children.

 

[44Thrilla]

This stuff doesn't matter. Did McCain know terrorists or pornographers when he was 8? Was he attending a madrassa when he was 9?

This is the sort of thing that morally disqualifies you from the presidency. Not how you treat the mother of your three children.

Well, infidelity does matter, but only when its Bill Clinton.

 

[maxiep]

This is the kind of thing that makes me sick. As a person who would vote for McCain if forced to choose between the two, this is what bothers me.

The guy was a scumbag. I would call myself one if I did that stuff.

What I am saying is that why can't we get some people with morals to run in this country?

Why does everyone have to flip flop?

WHY WHY WHY WHY?

I saw a video of Cindy McCain that they played at the convention and she is the only one of the people involved in this race that I respect. I bet you could find skeletons in her closet too, but please don't post anything. Please?

I don't vote for Pope, I vote for President. The guy I wanted has been married three times and cheated on his wife for at least the first two. I voted for Bill Clinton, knowing he banged every chubby Daisy Duke wannabe in Arkansas.

 

[maxiep]

This stuff doesn't matter. Did McCain know terrorists or pornographers when he was 8? Was he attending a madrassa when he was 9?

This is the sort of thing that morally disqualifies you from the presidency. Not how you treat the mother of your three children.

That retort by Obama was ridiculous. I attended a cocktail party where Robert Byrd was also in the 1990s. He was working the room and came up to the group to which I was speaking. I excused myself because I refused to shake the hand of a former KKK member. Was I born in the early 40s? Not even close. But decisions you make in your past point to the person you are. When you're a guy like Bill Ayres who escaped prison by a technicality and who hasn't renounced his viewpoints, Barack Obama deserves to be taken to task (as does anyone else) who deals with this piece of human garbage.

It doesn't matter that he did these acts when Sen. Obama was eight. It matters that Sen. Obama as an adult knew who he was and what he was and still sought both his counsel and support. That's absolutely shameful.

 

[Minstrel]

When you're a guy like Bill Ayres who escaped prison by a technicality and who hasn't renounced his viewpoints, Barack Obama deserves to be taken to task (as does anyone else) who deals with this piece of human garbage.

Bill Ayers also won Humanitarian Of The Year in Chicago. It's possible that he's not the same person who did the bombings.

 

[maxiep]

Bill Ayers also won Humanitarian Of The Year in Chicago. It's possible that he's not the same person who did the bombings.

First, who made that selection? Second, until he renounces his past, he's still a maggot.

 

[Minstrel]

First, who made that selection? Second, until he renounces his past, he's still a maggot.

Sorry, I went from memory and got the award wrong. It was "Citizen Of The Year." I don't know who specifically made the selection, but it was from the city of Chicago.

I drew this information from a Wall Street Journal article (the Wall Street Journal was the publication you credited with being the lonely voice crying out in the wilderness of liberal media, right? ):

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122402888900234543.html

 

[maxiep]

Sorry, I went from memory and got the award wrong. It was "Citizen Of The Year." I don't know who specifically made the selection, but it was from the city of Chicago.

Yep, the City of Chicago is the arbitor of all that is right and decent.

I drew this information from a Wall Street Journal article (the Wall Street Journal was the publication you credited with being the lonely voice crying out in the wilderness of liberal media, right? ):

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122402888900234543.html

Because it appears in the WSJ doesn't mean that they endorse it. I'm pretty sure they covered 9/11. Did they support the terrorists?

 

[Minstrel]

Yep, the City of Chicago is the arbitor of all that is right and decent.

I don't know whether your glowing praise of Chicago is accurate, but I doubt they honour human garbage with civic awards.

Because it appears in the WSJ doesn't mean that they endorse it. I'm pretty sure they covered 9/11. Did they support the terrorists?

Did they publish an article in support of the attacks? If so, it might mean that.

 

[rocketeer]

Bill Ayers also won Humanitarian Of The Year in Chicago. It's possible that he's not the same person who did the bombings.

so a person's past doesn't matter then? it's possible that mccain is no longer the man who cheated on and divorced his wife and it's possible that obama is no longer a muslim.

 

[Minstrel]

so a person's past doesn't matter then?

That isn't what I said, so I fail to see the relevance of your question. My point is that Obama isn't responsible for Ayers' past. If the Ayers that Obama met and interacted with was someone committed to helping others and improving society, why would it be a black mark on Obama for associating with him?

 

[rocketeer]

That isn't what I said, so I fail to see the relevance of your question. My point is that Obama isn't responsible for Ayers' past. If the Ayers that Obama met and interacted with was someone committed to helping others and improving society, why would it be a black mark on Obama for associating with him?

i don't disagree with you about obama/ayers.

though i still think my question has some relevance. you dismiss(or could potentially dismiss) ayers' past because his award in chicago indicates that he may be a different person than he was in the past.

 

[Minstrel]

though i still think my question has some relevance. you dismiss(or could potentially dismiss) ayers' past because his award in chicago indicates that he may be a different person than he was in the past.

I'm not dismissing his past. He's fully responsible for everything he did as a member of the Weather Underground and will always be.

My point is entirely about what it says about Obama. And for that, I don't think Ayers' past is relevant, since Obama only interacted with the "modern day" Ayers who, from accounts, seems to be a pretty civic-minded person.

 

[Minstrel]

As a sidenote, I'm always struck by how good a band name "Weather Underground" would be. But, in thinking about it, that may be because of the Velvet Underground.

 

[barfo]

As a sidenote, I'm always struck by how good a band name "Weather Underground" would be. But, in thinking about it, that may be because of the Velvet Underground.

Obama and the Weather Underground
Nico and the Velvet Underground
and special guest
The Jackson 5

barfo