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What defense? It was even worse later in the game when he allowed Ginobili an uncontested layup off a simple inbounds pass 30' from the basket. He BETTER score a ton...
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Because, he's supposed to be able to defend players 7" and 80 pounds larger than him, right?

You know what, maybe it's not his fault that someone expected him guard Boris Diaw.
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Of course Diaw is bigger but CJ provided no resistance at all. Dame would have at least fought him. Heck, Tim Frazier would have tried harder than that.
 
TBpup said:
Of course Diaw is bigger but CJ provided no resistance at all. Dame would have at least fought him. Heck, Tim Frazier would have tried harder than that.
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I could be wrong, but he looked utterly baffled. Like, "how the hell did I get here?!" baffled. CJ's very intelligent, and often highly intelligent people operate on analysis rather than instinct. Dame's instinct is to fight in every situation. CJ's MO is to analyze situations and then respond with the most appropriate action. Faced with Boris Diaw's massive backside, CJ was backed into the paint before he was even able to comprehend the situation, let alone the response.

The comments for this team about experience apply more to CJ than anyone else, I believe. For the moment, he's collecting data. His defense will improve as his speed of data analysis does.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Because, he's supposed to be able to defend players 7" and 80 pounds larger than him, right?

You know what, maybe it's not his fault that someone expected him guard Boris Diaw.
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CJ is 6'4 and Diaw is 6'8. 50lbs difference.
If you play basketball i'd encourage you to find someone who is only 4 inches taller than you and 50 lbs heavier than you and see how funny it is to let him post you up from that range.

I would've fouled THE SHIT out of Diaw and not let him embarrass me like that! this is worse than a 360' dunk on your head!
 
Blazers Roy said:
CJ is 6'4 and Diaw is 6'8. 50lbs difference.
If you play basketball i'd encourage you to find someone who is only 4 inches taller than you and 50 lbs heavier than you and see how funny it is to let him post you up from that range.

I would've fouled THE SHIT out of Diaw and not let him embarrass me like that! this is worse than a 360' dunk on your head!
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I'm 6'5", 230. If Karl Malone posted me up, even from the arc, I'd be lost. Well, really, I'd be flattened. CJ's biggest error was not taking the charge. However, the next time that situation presents itself, I doubt he makes that mistake again.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I'm 6'5", 230. If Karl Malone posted me up, even from the arc, I'd be lost. Well, really, I'd be flattened. CJ's biggest error was not taking the charge. However, the next time that situation presents itself, I doubt he makes that mistake again.
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Buck Williams weighed less than that. Granted he was 6'8" but that made him even less stocky. Malone will tell you Buck battled him as hard as anyone.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I'm 6'5", 230. If Karl Malone posted me up, even from the arc, I'd be lost. Well, really, I'd be flattened. CJ's biggest error was not taking the charge. However, the next time that situation presents itself, I doubt he makes that mistake again.
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CJ vs Boris Diaw
You vs Karl Malone, 2nd best PF of all times and top 5 all time in scoring.

Yep ITS EXACTLY THE SAME.
 
TBpup said:
Buck Williams weighed less than that. Granted he was 6'8" but that made him even less stocky. Malone will tell you Buck battled him as hard as anyone.
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Buck was also a hell of a lot stronger than I am, so that's really not a great analogy, especially since I was responding to a post specifically about someone posting me up. But I appreciate the effort and the reply.
 
Blazers Roy said:
CJ vs Boris Diaw
You vs Karl Malone, 2nd best PF of all times and top 5 all time in scoring.

Yep ITS EXACTLY THE SAME.
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OK--if Boris Diaw posted me up, I'd be in bad shape too. I'm bigger than CJ, and I'd probably get moved with ease. However, like I said, I'd also take the charge.

Give him time, CJ's defense will come around. All I'm really saying is that his inability to slow down Big-ass Boris is not the best indicator.
 
e_blazer said:
Yeah, screw CJ. He's been a starter now for nine whole games and he doesn't have defense entirely figured out yet!

It. Takes. Time.
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I don't think it's gonna get better with time.
He's not athletic\strong\tough enough imo , maybe he and Lillard can get better under the right coach, i don't know...
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Buck was also a hell of a lot stronger than I am, so that's really not a great analogy, especially since I was responding to a post specifically about someone posting me up. But I appreciate the effort and the reply.
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Yes...but I was referring to weight and heart, not that of Malone, Buck, CJ, Diaw and you, one of those things is not like the other.
 
Blazers Roy said:
I don't think it's gonna get better with time.
He's not athletic\strong\tough enough imo , maybe he and Lillard can get better under the right coach, i don't know...
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He'll get better with more PT. Everybody does. That said, I still don't see him as the starter once Henderson is back at full strength. I think CJ will be a Jason Terry-style 6th man splitting time at backup PG and SG, at least for a couple of years while he develops his game.
 
I wasn't even mad at CJ for this. I did however get pissed when Crabbe let old assed ginobili beat him to an offensive rebound not once, but twice before scoring. If I'm Stotts I'm cutting crabbes minutes after that play & Hendos contribution last night.

As far as the CJ play goes. As far as I'm concerned it's a great example of how weak our team defense has been.
 
But CJ's a superstar! Seriously though, this is why Henderson will take his place in the starting lineup very soon.
 
There will come a time when the Blazers will have to decide between Lillard & McCollum. Offensively it's very fun backcourt to watch! Defensively there not good enough and at times terrible. The match is just not championship caliber.
 
i can only imagine how many times that is gonna be shown in the breakdown sessions.

and how much shit the rest of the team is gonna give him about it :P

tbh i really noticed that play as well, it totally stood out - i was like - "did this mahfucker just go into his post move at the 3pt line, shuffle in for 15 feet, then pop it in effortlessly whilst a mosquito was getting a free ride on his back?..... yes"
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
I wasn't even mad at CJ for this. I did however get pissed when Crabbe let old assed ginobili beat him to an offensive rebound not once, but twice before scoring. If I'm Stotts I'm cutting crabbes minutes after that play & Hendos contribution last night.

As far as the CJ play goes. As far as I'm concerned it's a great example of how weak our team defense has been.
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Yeah when Crabbe walked away from the play in progress I was mad as hell.
 
BigGameDamian said:
There will come a time when the Blazers will have to decide between Lillard & McCollum. Offensively it's very fun backcourt to watch! Defensively there not good enough and at times terrible. The match is just not championship caliber.
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There's no decision. It's CJ.
 
I've accepted McCollum can't play D worth a camels spit, but damn if he could at least pass the ball instead of just throwing the ball up in a strange spasm like state and hoping against all odds it will go in....if he's open take it, if he can get to the basket without three or four guys on him chance it, otherwise pass it out to open man for a 3 CJ
 
CJ played a bad game defensively and offensively last night. I hope he's reading this..his drives into heavy traffic and turnovers killed us. He didn't finish at the rim well at all and forced bad passes...We had some horrible defense from Plumlee and Leonard that allowed Duncan to skip to the rim a few times without any resistance...I saw Meyers watch him make a layup from 2 ft away and not move. Gerald Henderson should play big minutes..he knows how to keep an opponent on his hip and stick with him
 
His problem isn't with bigger SG's - it's quick PG's. Diaw is a PF with Center girth. Not really fair.

Still plays tougher D than Leonar_.
 
BigGameDamian said:
There will come a time when the Blazers will have to decide between Lillard & McCollum. Offensively it's very fun backcourt to watch! Defensively there not good enough and at times terrible. The match is just not championship caliber.
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Like Curry and Monta!
 
Blazers Roy said:
Like Curry and Monta!
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Kind of, but with a less selfish and more intelligent Ellis. I have no idea if it will work long term, but I believe that it has the possibility of working. Cj is still getting used to playing big minutes in the NBA. He is intelligent and I know he is going to work on his shortcomings. Just a thought.
 
I really like CJ and he hustles even though he doesn't have lateral quickness on defense..but in fairness, he studied with Steve Nash this summer and if you've ever seen Nash defend....
 
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