McMillan liked what he saw last night

[PapaG]

I'd appreciate it if you'd quick saying stuff like that as if you can read Greg Oden's thoughts and know his inner feelings more than anyone else.

This entire board is about speculation, and most of this thread has been people projecting their own views of McMillan into Nate's actions (or lack of actions).

 

[Tince]

I'd appreciate it if you'd quit saying stuff like that as if you can read Greg Oden's thoughts and know his inner feelings more than anyone else.

I apologize for bothering you, I'll fix it right now.

 

[Tince]

This entire board is about speculation, and most of this thread has been people projecting their own views of McMillan into Nate's actions (or lack of actions).

I forget that I need to put, "I think..." or "in my opinion..." in front of things I say. I know some people need the clarification, and others (such as yourself), do not.

 

[Erroneous Subterfuge]

I forget that I need to put, "I think..." or "in my opinion..." in front of things I say. I know some people need the clarification, and others (such as yourself), do not.

Give me a break, your holiness. Most of the time it's not a problem. But when you pretend to know how people think and state it as fact, you come off as an ass. You don't have one fucking clue how Greg feels about being benched after he's outplayed Joel.

 

[PapaG]

Give me a break, your holiness. Most of the time it's not a problem. But when you pretend to know how people think and state it as fact, you come off as an ass. You don't have one fucking clue how Greg feels about being benched after he's outplayed Joel.

Hi Hap!

 

[Tince]

Give me a break, your holiness. Most of the time it's not a problem. But when you pretend to know how people think and state it as fact, you come off as an ass. You don't have one fucking clue how Greg feels about being benched after he's outplayed Joel.

Kinda like this post from you:
Andre Miller Is Just Being Andre Miller

Miller knows his body better than anyone else and his status as an iron-man of the NBA speaks for itself. He's earned the right to follow his own particular rituals prior to and during training camp, since they're not disruptive and don't have a negative impact on his performance during the regular season.

You should have said you think Andre Miller knows is body better than anyone else. There is a chance he doesn't know his body very well and goes to someone else to get advice. You'd have to be inside his brain to know. However, I have no problem with your post or writing style.

 

[Erroneous Subterfuge]

Kinda like this post from you:
Andre Miller Is Just Being Andre Miller



You should have said you think Andre Miller knows is body better than anyone else. There is a chance he doesn't know his body very well and goes to someone else to get advice. You'd have to be inside his brain to know.

Are you joking? Your saying the two statements are the same?

My statement was obvious, everyone knows their body better than anyone... You were acting like you knew Greg's thoughts, how was I doing that?

 

[Tince]

Give me a break, your holiness. Most of the time it's not a problem. But when you pretend to know how people think and state it as fact, you come off as an ass. You don't have one fucking clue how Greg feels about being benched after he's outplayed Joel.

Why are you so angry about this? Do you think anyone actually thinks I know what Greg is thinking? I would think your pointing something that is fairly obvious to the majority of the board, and I don't think anyone is going to their friends using me as a source for how Greg is feeling.

I guess I don't understand why it's a big deal. Plus, I fixed it for you.

 

[Tince]

Are you joking? Your saying the two statements are the same?

My statement was obvious, everyone knows their body better than anyone... You were acting like you knew Greg's thoughts, how was I doing that?

Yes I'm joking, this entire debate is a joke in my opinion.

I didn't say they were the same and I already answered your question in that post.

 

[Erroneous Subterfuge]

Why are you so angry about this? Do you think anyone actually thinks I know what Greg is thinking? I would think your pointing something that is fairly obvious to the majority of the board, and I don't think anyone is going to their friends using me as a source for how Greg is feeling.

I guess I don't understand why it's a big deal. Plus, I fixed it for you.

I just took offense to your condescending post, "I know some people need the clarification". Otherwise I would have moved on.

 

[Tince]

I just took offense to your condescending post, "I know some people need the clarification". Otherwise I would have moved on.

I apologize for that as well.

 

[Eastoff]

3rd string guys showed they're hungry for work.

Andre was under 50% and Greg missed a lot of his shots.

What I take from that game is TrOut is not going to earn money like out of this world.

 

[Tince]

3rd string guys showed they're hungry for work.

Andre was under 50% and Greg missed a lot of his shots.

What I take from that game is TrOut is not going to earn money like out of this world.

Good post, and I agree about Travis.

I don't know what type of team is going to be looking to acquire him next off-season.

 

[andalusian]

Got yourself a private TV feed or something?

Again with the racism? Now you have something against people with private TV feeds?

 

[magnifier661]

LOL. Of course he defends his piss poor decision.

Amen. I really can't believe the dude is so stubborn that he cant see what he's doing here. Honestly, telling Oden "You aren't going to start because we think you will get more shot attempts" is like telling a blind kid "You need to wear those cool dark sunglasses because you will be able to see better". Doesn't make a bit of sense.

Fact is, Oden is the future of the franchise, along with Aldridge and Roy. The only way you can bring them all together is giving them playing time together. I will give Nate a pass right now, just because I still can't believe it. But I guarantee if he's staying on the bench more than the first 10 games, I will be making "FIRE NATE" shirts and pass them out for free in Pioneer Square.

 

[magnifier661]

Good post, and I agree about Travis.

I don't know what type of team is going to be looking to acquire him next off-season.

I know. A team that is fully stacked defensively, with most their scoring made in the paint, but lacks perimeter shooting. I could say Charlotte is a good candidate. Possibly even Orlando, with the loss of Turk.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I'm glad you're not Greg, and that Greg is a professional.

Greg has been paid $10M and done very little, so he really shouldn't be making demands, and I think he realizes that.

I hear what you are saying, and if this was just about Oden's feelings, I would agree.

The problem is, some of us see this as a bad move for the team's future.

 

[Wheels]

No offense dude, but I think you are missing an obvious point.

Nate didn't just annoint Blake and Joel as starters.....he did so weeks before the season even starts. It doesn't take either Freud or Sherlock Holmes to figure out that there is an agenda at work here.....and that agenda has little or nothing to do with how our players are actually performing.

none taken.. I appreciate others opinions. But the way I see it.. Greg has had 2 good games against the Kings.. and 1 good game against the "defense is optional" Suns. I would venture to guess if GO can show consistency (for more than 3 out of 5 games against inferior competition) then he will be starting as soon as Nate feels he can do it consistently.

 

[Jayps15]

none taken.. I appreciate others opinions. But the way I see it.. Greg has had 2 good games against the Kings.. and 1 good game against the "defense is optional" Suns. I would venture to guess if GO can show consistency (for more than 3 out of 5 games against inferior competition) then he will be starting as soon as Nate feels he can do it consistently.

GO was our most consistent player over the 1st 4 games, before the announcement.

 

[LittleAlex]

What I take from that game is TrOut is not going to earn money like out of this world.

Oddly enough I think the big problem with Travis right now is that he is tring to become more of a team player when he should just be jacking shots.

When all he does is score at least he is doing something halfway productive. I have seen him try and drive into the lane then kick out to the open man. I have seen him try to make passes off the dribble. Hell, he even tried to run the pick and roll.

It's not like watching him play makes me happy. But since there doesn't seem to be any way for Outlaw to play bad enough to get benched I would prefer he do what he is capable of instead of what he simply can't do.

 

[LittleAlex]

none taken.. I appreciate others opinions. But the way I see it.. Greg has had 2 good games against the Kings.. and 1 good game against the "defense is optional" Suns. I would venture to guess if GO can show consistency (for more than 3 out of 5 games against inferior competition) then he will be starting as soon as Nate feels he can do it consistently.

Compared to whom, exactly. This isn't like a test where he can get an A, B, C or F. He has to outplay his competition. Which Oden has done.

Joel isn't exactly lighting the world on fire this off season. He is playing the exact same players as Oden.

Why didn't Joel get 7 offensive boards last night in his 16 minutes while Oden did in 17?

The reason is that Joel, though a fine center, doesn't have half the ability Oden does. THAT is why you start Oden.

 

[Wheels]

Compared to whom, exactly. This isn't like a test where he can get an A, B, C or F. He has to outplay his competition. Which Oden has done.

Joel isn't exactly lighting the world on fire this off season. He is playing the exact same players as Oden.

Why didn't Joel get 7 offensive boards last night in his 16 minutes while Oden did in 17?

The reason is that Joel, though a fine center, doesn't have half the ability Oden does. THAT is why you start Oden.

Those are the reasons Oden will eventually start. Until he is consistent with it.. It wont happen.

 

[noknobs]

none taken.. I appreciate others opinions. But the way I see it.. Greg has had 2 good games against the Kings.. and 1 good game against the "defense is optional" Suns. I would venture to guess if GO can show consistency (for more than 3 out of 5 games against inferior competition) then he will be starting as soon as Nate feels he can do it consistently.

Looks like others have beat me to the punch, but just the fact you're mentioning the word "consistency" in defending Nate's decision is pretty funny to me. Greg has outscored Joel in 5 of 5 games. He has outrebounded Joel in 4 of 5 games. How can you believe Joel is consistent and not Greg???

 

[Wheels]

GO was our most consistent player over the 1st 4 games, before the announcement.

again, 2 of the games were against the kings, and 1 one was against the Suns defense. The one time he faced some actual Centers, he didnt fare so well. When Nate sees it for more than 3 out of 4 games.. then I'm sure he will start.

 

[Wheels]

Looks like others have beat me to the punch, but just the fact you're mentioning the word "consistency" in defending Nate's decision is pretty funny to me. Greg has outscored Joel in 5 of 5 games. He has outrebounded Joel in 4 of 5 games. How can you believe Joel is consistent and not Greg???

I guess I just put little stock in Pre-season games.. I have seen Joel be consistent in the Regular Season. Like I have told the others who have asked.. I'm sure when Oden strings a few games like this together in the Regular season.. then I am pretty sure he'll start.

 

[noknobs]

I guess I just put little stock in Pre-season games.. I have seen Joel be consistent in the Regular Season. Like I have told the others who have asked.. I'm sure when Oden strings a few games like this together in the Regular season.. then I am pretty sure he'll start.

LOL... so basically nothing Greg does in the preseason matters. The only way Nate will realize he's a better player than Joel is once he strings a few good games together in the regular season? That's what you're saying? Forgive me, but I think that logic is seriously flawed in this case.

 

[Wheels]

LOL... so basically nothing Greg does in the preseason matters. The only way Nate will realize he's a better player than Joel is once he strings a few good games together in the regular season? That's what you're saying? Forgive me, but I think that logic is seriously flawed in this case.

fair enough.. we can agree to disagree. I can see starting either one I guess. I can see the argument for Oden, but I can also see starting Joel until Greg does more against teams other than just the Suns, and Kings.

 

[LittleAlex]

Those are the reasons Oden will eventually start. Until he is consistent with it.. It wont happen.

Once again, why should Oden have to be consistently great when Joel can be consistently mediocre and win the starters job.

 

[PapaG]

Once again, why should Oden have to be consistently great when Joel can be consistently mediocre and win the starters job.

Why do people feel the need to tear down one player with subjective terms such as "mediocre" in order to elevate another player?

Roy has been "bad" this preseason. Should he not start as well?

 

[B-Roy]

Why do people feel the need to tear down one player with subjective terms such as "mediocre" in order to elevate another player?

Roy has been "bad" this preseason. Should he not start as well?

Well he is outplaying his competition.

Rudy won't even show up for the games.