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KeepOnRollin said:
Even for Meyers? I don't want any of Bogut either really but I want Leonard even less. I wouldn't even consider him for anyone else though.
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Yes even for Meyers. Meyers has more value than that, will not be hard to move.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Disagree, I think we are very clearly showcasing both him and Noah at the moment. There is a reason Ed is getting DNP CDs.

Unfortunately, seeing him play more probably hurts Meyers' value.
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I would be happy if you are right. I don't see it though. The front office has always liked him a lot more than most fans on this board. I think that is still the case. There was absolutely no reason to make him a priority over Harkless and they did. I bet he is here longer than Ed (even if that wouldn't be my plan personally).

And to be honest, Ed has arguably been just as bad or worse and I am a huge fan of his.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Disagree, I think we are very clearly showcasing both him and Noah at the moment. There is a reason Ed is getting DNP CDs.

Unfortunately, seeing him play more probably hurts Meyers' value.
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I agree with the first part.

Bigs with Leonards talent/shooting ability will always hold value in GMs eyes. This is a guy that can space the court and has shown flashes from time to time of being able to defend the most elite bigs (Cousins, Gasol.) Hes also young enough to where coaches will be intrigued by the idea of working with him.
 
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/n...the-blazers-arent-interested-in-cousins-noel/

NBA Trade Rumors: Here's why the Blazers aren't interested in Cousins or Noel
Don't expect Portland to make a big splash and land either of those players at the deadline

On paper, either one would be a huge help to the Blazers. Noel perhaps more so on the defensive end but adding an All-Star like Cousins would be a huge upgrade in the Portland front court. So why aren't the Blazers interested?

One reason is that the Blazers believe in their core team and that they can turn things around. This is essentially what happened with Portland last season. They struggled at the start of the season but then got in a little rhythm in January and February, which ultimately helped them secure a playoff spot.

Portland invested a lot of money in the offseason to bring back their team from last season and it seems like they are going to stick with this group. That could change as we get closer to February's trade deadline but for now, the Blazers seem focused on improving from within.​
 
Denny Crane said:
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/n...the-blazers-arent-interested-in-cousins-noel/

NBA Trade Rumors: Here's why the Blazers aren't interested in Cousins or Noel
Don't expect Portland to make a big splash and land either of those players at the deadline

On paper, either one would be a huge help to the Blazers. Noel perhaps more so on the defensive end but adding an All-Star like Cousins would be a huge upgrade in the Portland front court. So why aren't the Blazers interested?

One reason is that the Blazers believe in their core team and that they can turn things around. This is essentially what happened with Portland last season. They struggled at the start of the season but then got in a little rhythm in January and February, which ultimately helped them secure a playoff spot.

Portland invested a lot of money in the offseason to bring back their team from last season and it seems like they are going to stick with this group. That could change as we get closer to February's trade deadline but for now, the Blazers seem focused on improving from within.​
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Not surprised to be reading such horse shit and I don't know why anyone would be. Must be coming from Paul Allen if true.
 
tester551 said:
Am I looking at a different trade?
Ezeli & Ed is $14M out.
Bogut & the other dude is $12M in.
We wouldn't be in the LT this season.
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Correct. My bad.

Brussino is a cap hit of $1M for two more years.
 
Denny Crane said:
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/n...the-blazers-arent-interested-in-cousins-noel/

NBA Trade Rumors: Here's why the Blazers aren't interested in Cousins or Noel
Don't expect Portland to make a big splash and land either of those players at the deadline

On paper, either one would be a huge help to the Blazers. Noel perhaps more so on the defensive end but adding an All-Star like Cousins would be a huge upgrade in the Portland front court. So why aren't the Blazers interested?

One reason is that the Blazers believe in their core team and that they can turn things around. This is essentially what happened with Portland last season. They struggled at the start of the season but then got in a little rhythm in January and February, which ultimately helped them secure a playoff spot.

Portland invested a lot of money in the offseason to bring back their team from last season and it seems like they are going to stick with this group. That could change as we get closer to February's trade deadline but for now, the Blazers seem focused on improving from within.​
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Not sure what the point of this article is. The problem(s) the Blazers now have are the same problem(s) they started the season with, a rim protecting center, and another player that can create his own shot.

Ezeli was never the long term answer to our rim defense problem, reason, health issues. He was a stop gap answer until a better answer could be traded for.

If Olshey is sitting on his hands with this group, there is not enough potential to development and improve to ever be a contender. At best, this rooster is a first or second round playoff team, "IF" they get their shit together.
 
Unless it's coming from Woj, I wouldn't believe anything that's written about portlands thinking, and even then I would be skeptical because Olshey could easily just be using him as a mouthpiece, something Woj is known to be ok with. He is the only one that has Olsheys trust. No one else knows anything.
 
oldfisherman said:
If Olshey is sitting on his hands with this group, there is not enough potential to development and improve to ever be a contender
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This is not exclusive to the Blazers....realistically there are only 4 teams with potential to contend and 3 of them are in the West...everybody else is playing for the bronze until one of those teams drops off....it's like Pat Riley said when he coached the Knicks.....everybody is playing for second place until MJ retires...hopefully we CAN develop that team over the next year and a half...I don't see any trade scenarios that'll change that this season
 
riverman said:
This is not exclusive to the Blazers....realistically there are only 4 teams with potential to contend and 3 of them are in the West...everybody else is playing for the bronze until one of those teams drops off....it's like Pat Riley said when he coached the Knicks.....everybody is playing for second place until MJ retires...hopefully we CAN develop that team over the next year and a half...I don't see any trade scenarios that'll change that this season
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First, I agree with everything you said, but want to take it a step further.

A case can be made almost every team in the West improved more than the Blazers did from last season.
Utah passed the Blazers and moving up strong.
The lowly Kings have a better record than the Blazers.
The Nuggets and Pelicans are hot on our heals.
Worst of all, the fucking Fakers are driving up our tailpipe.

In this competitive league, your team does not get stronger by doing little to nothing.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Not surprised to be reading such horse shit and I don't know why anyone would be. Must be coming from Paul Allen if true.
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The title of the article is misleading. It's just some guy's take on the Chris Haynes article with ZERO new information. It has all the credibility of a forum post in a fancy wrapper.

BNM
 
tester551 said:
Am I looking at a different trade?
Ezeli & Ed is $14M out.
Bogut & the other dude is $12M in.
We wouldn't be in the LT this season.
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We also can't make a trade that pushes DAL above the LT tax line. Why would they do that for the honor of giving us Bogut? They are less than $1 million below the LT threshold. So, the aggregate salaries going out and coming it would have to be a pretty good match.

Thankfully, by including another player or two on either side, there are lots of possible combinations that work.

So, the real question would be what would DAL take, and what are we willing to give it up? They'd probably want Plumlee, and that would hurt, but would we be able to afford to resign Plumlee if we don't trade him? At his age and with his energy and unique skill set, I think Mason Plumlee is ripe for a HUGE payday. Good for him Bad for us.

I'd be all for getting Bogut. He's a great defensive center, sets awesome (if questionably legal) screens and is a great passer. He has championship experience and knows all the tricks of the trade that our young guys can pick up from him. He's basically Chris Kaman with with defense and passing.

Not sure I get all the "rental" talk. Why is it preordained he wouldn't resign here? I know he'll be a UFA, but we'd hold his Bird Rights and be able to go over the cap to resign him. Given his age, I think he'll get much smaller offers come July 1 than Plumlee.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
We also can't make a trade that pushes DAL above the LT tax line. Why would they do that for the honor of giving us Bogut? They are less than $1 million below the LT threshold. So, the aggregate salaries going out and coming it would have to be a pretty good match.

Thankfully, by including another player or two on either side, there are lots of possible combinations that work.

So, the real question would be what would DAL take, and what are we willing to give it up? They'd probably want Plumlee, and that would hurt, but would we be able to afford to resign Plumlee if we don't trade him? At his age and with his energy and unique skill set, I think Mason Plumlee is ripe for a HUGE payday. Good for him Bad for us.

I'd be all for getting Bogut. He's a great defensive center, sets awesome (if questionably legal) screens and is a great passer. He has championship experience and knows all the tricks of the trade that our young guys can pick up from him. He's basically Chris Kaman with with defense and passing.

Not sure I get all the "rental" talk. Why is it preordained he wouldn't resign here? I know he'll be a UFA, but we'd hold his Bird Rights and be able to go over the cap to resign him. Given his age, I think he'll get much smaller offers come July 1 than Plumlee.

BNM
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Instead of losing Ezeli's ~$7M off the books, you'd be adding $11M (or whatever Bogut signs for). Our starting point is already over the LT.
 
Ric Bucher (LOL, didn't know he was still doing NBA stuff) says Bulls are shopping Jimmy Butler.

 
You have to use Meyers if trading for Bogut (not literally have to as in every scenario but it is the easiest way to do it).
 
There are very few players I would deal CJ for. Butler is one of them though because Jimmy plays very good D. I doubt CHI would really trade him though.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
There are very few players I would deal CJ for. Butler is one of them though because Jimmy plays very good D. I doubt CHI would really trade him though.
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I think they'd get a better offer than just CJ.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
There are very few players I would deal CJ for. Butler is one of them though because Jimmy plays very good D. I doubt CHI would really trade him though.
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Agreed. CJ + choice of our pick collection.

But I was of the mindset that we can swoop in and get some big man scraps if Bulls were really to trade Butler away. Not necessarily trade for Butler, per se.
 
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