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KeepOnRollin said:
Butler is locked up long enough (at a bargain contract even) that I would give them all our picks and we might even get another. Most likely this deal happens at draft though if at all.
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"All our picks" aren't really as valuable as an in-his-prime borderline superstar. Unless the fourth pick we get is well inside the top-ten, I guess, but I don't see how we get a pick like that (beyond wherever Portland's might land). If Portland acquires another pick in the 20s, I don't think it'll add up to all that much, honestly. Good assets for greasing a bigger trade but not good assets for headlining a big trade.
 
noknobs said:
If there aren't any good deals to be had that will significantly improve our chances this season, then I see no problem (in fact I'd prefer it) with the Blazers waiting until around the draft to make a big move. It would make for a boring day today but oh well.
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My thoughts exactly
 
honkicracker said:
If Celtics acquire PG13.... Are they the favorites to come out of the east?
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I think it would hinge on where Bogut goes. Unless they also get Bogut, BOS would still be very weak up front and on the glass.

If Bogut goes to CLE, they would still be the favorite in the East and have a real shot at upsetting GSW again.

BNM
 
Minstrel said:
"All our picks" aren't really as valuable as an in-his-prime borderline superstar. Unless the fourth pick we get is well inside the top-ten, I guess, but I don't see how we get a pick like that (beyond wherever Portland's might land). If Portland acquires another pick in the 20s, I don't think it'll add up to all that much, honestly. Good assets for greasing a bigger trade but not good assets for headlining a big trade.
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Let's just say I don't think it even takes 4 picks. Time will tell so let's just see. Teams aren't getting a crazy amount of picks for players anymore.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Let's just say I don't think it even takes 4 picks. Time will tell so let's just see. Teams aren't getting a crazy amount of picks for players anymore.
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My point is that I don't think Chicago even wants a "crazy amount" of low-value picks. One pick in the top-five would be far better than even seven picks in the mid-20s, in my opinion. You're acting like all first-rounders are the same and "4" is huge value.
 
Minstrel said:
My point is that I don't think Chicago even wants a "crazy amount" of low-value picks. One pick in a top-five would be far better than even seven picks in the mid-20s, in my opinion. You're acting like all first-rounders are the same and "4" is just way too much.
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Our pick is going to be top 8 imo. If you had to press me I would say 7th. And I wasn't acting anything but if I came off the way to you then sorry as it is apparently hard to "read" someone on a message board.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Our pick is going to be top 8 imo. If you had to press me I would say 7th. And I wasn't acting anything but if I came off the way to you then sorry as it is apparently hard to "read" someone on a message board.
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Hmm? I wasn't using the word "acting" to indicate an action on your part, like you're trying to pretend something. I'll rephrase that for clarity: your words imply that "generic" first-rounders are all very valuable, regardless of where they fall. Cleveland's #27 is very nearly a second-round pick. That's not particularly valuable. Wrapping that up in a flat number like "4 first-round picks" disregards where each pick falls which matters enormously. Even if that's not specifically what you mean, your argument has been ignoring that aspect.
 
Bogut has requested Philly buy him out after the Noel trade with Dallas...there will be a ton of teams scrambling to pick him up after that...we could trade a pick for him as a rental....owed 3.1 mill for the rest of the season but I see the Cavs jumping on this opportunity...GS can't sign him
 
Minstrel said:
Hmm? I wasn't using the word "acting" to indicate an action on your part, like you're trying to pretend something. I'll rephrase that for clarity: your words imply that "generic" first-rounders are all very valuable, regardless of where they fall. Cleveland's #27 is very nearly a second-round pick. That's not particularly valuable. Wrapping that up in a flat number like "4 first-round picks" disregards where each pick falls which matters enormously. Even if that's not specifically what you mean, your argument has been ignoring that aspect.
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I wasn't attempting to imply anything. In fact, in my response to someone else I was more along your lines that 3 picks is plenty (if they are good) 4 isn't better necessarily. We are in agreement. As I said, maybe you read into it. Which if so then I am sorry.
 
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