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Under the radar move: Meyers and a future 1st for Alex Len.
 
I'd also love having Jrue Holiday here. He'd be that perfect third guard as he's a good defender, big enough to slide to SG (6'4), and can score, shoot, as well as create for others. He'd be a legit 6th man.

Maybe Turner for Holiday and a contract (Asik)? would work. Holiday can be had as he's on an expiring contract. I also think they'd give up a lot for Plumlee and maybe we could work something around that.

Pelicans Get: Evan Turner, Mason Plumlee, P.J. Tucker, '18 CLE 1st
Suns Get: Tyreke Evans, Meyers Leonard, '17 POR 1st,
BLAZERS GET: Jrue Holiday, Alex Len

Len and Plumlee are in the same situation contract wise. We shed $27M in salary in Turner and Leonard, and that allows us to pay Holiday in the summer.
Suns would start Evans at the 3 and have a great 6th and 7th man in Knight and Warren. They also clear up more minutes for Chriss and Bender at the 5.
New Orleans gets a center that fits great with Davis, and that high-low action would be amazing to watch. Turner is a great fit with AD as well due to his passing skill. They'd get something for their expiring contracts.

Lillard (35) / Holiday (13)
McCollum (33) / Holiday (15)
Harkless (20) / Crabbe (28)
Aminu (24) / Vonleh (16) / Davis (8)
Ezeli (20) / Len (18) / Davis (10)
 
Blazinaway said:
IMO we have seen about as good as Aminu is going to get, I like the guy and think he has a good value contract, but I would not be surprised if last yr was as good as his 3pt shooting is going to get and would not be surprised if he slois thus yr. And we have Hark and Vonleh to play his spot. If a good trade came along I would have no issue with Aminu as part of the package
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His contract is a significant advantage he has though, much like Ed Davis and Moe Harkless and makes all of them sort of important to keep. We can be sure that regardless which big we will get - Brook, Noel, whoever - they might soon be making $20M a year and we will have to balance the books. It seems that with recent Gobert and Adams contracts we will have to deal both Leonard and one of Crabbe/Turner to accomodate our next center. Even Plumlee will get way beyond $10M.

IMO thinking about this, the best case scenario we get a backup guard and move Crabbe to small forward to share minutes with Harkless. Then we move Turner, Leonard and maybe Plumlee for a center to share minutes with Ezeli, or move a package of Turner and one of Aminu/Davis for a power forward - cannot see who that could be though and also I would prefer to keep Davis due to his versatility and same for Aminu. Even if we have just Ezeli and a new center at 5 and Crabbe/Harkless at 3, it is enough because both our power forwards mentioned can fill in there.
 
Sarni said:
IMO thinking about this, the best case scenario we get a backup guard and move Crabbe to small forward to share minutes with Harkless. Then we move Turner, Leonard and maybe Plumlee for a center to share minutes with Ezeli, or move a package of Turner and one of Aminu/Davis for a power forward - cannot see who that could be though and also I would prefer to keep Davis due to his versatility and same for Aminu. Even if we have just Ezeli and a new center at 5 and Crabbe/Harkless at 3, it is enough because both our power forwards mentioned can fill in there.
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I like where this is going. but really, backup guard isn't all too needed, we still have bazz, who seems like a guy that needs more min to really play to his potential. so if you were to move turner, nards, plums for a solid big we wouldn't be out all that much. you let him run point with cj out there and still have the rest of our guards and guard/sf's to cycle around that.
 
selloutking said:
I like where this is going. but really, backup guard isn't all too needed, we still have bazz, who seems like a guy that needs more min to really play to his potential. so if you were to move turner, nards, plums for a solid big we wouldn't be out all that much. you let him run point with cj out there and still have the rest of our guards and guard/sf's to cycle around that.
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Well, if Crabbe starts at SF then he cannot at all times cover for CJ at shooting guard, and Napier can't play there either. I am not saying we have to get an expensive star to fill in at SG but a competent back up would be fine. I like the idea of starting all of Lillard, McCollum and Crabbe, it could be lethal.
 
Sarni said:
Well, if Crabbe starts at SF then he cannot at all times cover for CJ at shooting guard, and Napier can't play there either. I am not saying we have to get an expensive star to fill in at SG but a competent back up would be fine. I like the idea of starting all of Lillard, McCollum and Crabbe, it could be lethal.
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I was kind of figuring that the only change would be in the second group, bazz/cj/crabbe/noah,ed/fez

starting crabbe is indeed a decent idea, but we already don't, so why not keep each core group together? but I mean really, its nice that we can have a discussion in that regard, shows again how we have depth in that SG/SF/PF area of the court
 
BigGameDamian said:
I wouldn't have a problem taking Rudy Gay back with DMC. The Blazers are ready to win now. Develop/smelop.
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Because if the Blazers got a player like Rudy Gay he would instantly take Lillards place as the leader of the team. He would be the exact same as he is playing with the Kings.
 
The reason I look at any trade possibility is that likely none of our starting front court would start for any other playoff team in the West. That is a big hole for Dame/CJ to pull out of every night. It's not that they can't be contributors but I struggle to see any other contending team any of the three would start for.

That means this team needs an upgrade and they have the depth to do some type of consolidation trade.
 
BigGameDamian said:
It's sarcasm. I'd still take Gay in a trade if we got DMC.
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I'm with ya, man. As long as our out-going package consists of Aminu/Meyers/Turner/Pick (sub Crabbe for Turner if we have to). Taking back Gay would be a concession on our part - not something we want but something we do to make the deal more enticing to SAC.
 
The Blazers need a 3rd scorer and Rudy Gay would be a great 3rd option. Right now it's supposed to be Crabbe, Harkless or Aminu and I don't see it!
 
I'd do a Aminu for a 2nd round pick Top 55 protected.

Everytime he has the ball in his hands you know it's not going to end well.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Either Ed or Meyers is getting moved. Count on it.

And possibly a wing as well.
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Meyers isn't going to have any trade value if he's still playing like crap, that contract isn't that much with the new CBA, but it's still looking bad right now in the very early season.
 
What's the deal with newly signed FA's trade date being 12/14, but re-signed RFA's being 1/14? We gotta wait a whole 'nother month before we can freely trade our players.
 
I cannot decide which hole in our line up is bigger - center or power forward. We probably need both.

BTW I might get murdered for this if grudges in NBA are similar to European football, but if Aldridge became available like rumored a couple of weeks ago, would you take him back for a reasonable package we could put together? Must say that coming from Europe and not having consistent touch with NBA fans, I am not sure how that works.
 
Sarni said:
I cannot decide which hole in our line up is bigger - center or power forward. We probably need both.

BTW I might get murdered for this if grudges in NBA are similar to European football, but if Aldridge became available like rumored a couple of weeks ago, would you take him back for a reasonable package we could put together? Must say that coming from Europe and not having consistent touch with NBA fans, I am not sure how that works.
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I think our center position would be fine, if we had a really good power forward. I think Plumlee/Leonard/Ezeli (eventually) would be totally serviceable if we had the right guy at the four.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I think our center position would be fine, if we had a really good power forward. I think Plumlee/Leonard/Ezeli (eventually) would be totally serviceable if we had the right guy at the four.
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Yeah but I don't think we are keeping Plumlee but if Ezeli was fit, he would suffice. Defense will improve greatly when he is back IMO.

At PF there is a huge hole. Vonleh would be a good option now but he's still a couple of years away in terms of development.

Aminu + Davis/Plumlee + maybe Crabbe for Millsap would work and would leave money in the bank to extend him next years. The doubt I have is extending a 32-year old but by the time he is done, Noah will be ready. Terrific defender, good shooter, consistent
 
Sarni said:
Yeah but I don't think we are keeping Plumlee but if Ezeli was fit, he would suffice. Defense will improve greatly when he is back IMO.

At PF there is a huge hole. Vonleh would be a good option now but he's still a couple of years away in terms of development.

Aminu + Davis/Plumlee + maybe Crabbe for Millsap would work and would leave money in the bank to extend him next years. The doubt I have is extending a 32-year old but by the time he is done, Noah will be ready. Terrific defender, good shooter, consistent
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Millsap is going to get max money.... and that's some kind of ridiculous number like $130+ million. Totally not worth it for a guy that age.
 
Sarni said:
I cannot decide which hole in our line up is bigger - center or power forward. We probably need both.

BTW I might get murdered for this if grudges in NBA are similar to European football, but if Aldridge became available like rumored a couple of weeks ago, would you take him back for a reasonable package we could put together? Must say that coming from Europe and not having consistent touch with NBA fans, I am not sure how that works.
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Not unless he has a personality transplant.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Millsap is going to get max money.... and that's some kind of ridiculous number like $130+ million. Totally not worth it for a guy that age.
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I watched him against the Lakers last night, just because his name keeps popping up in this forum. He is not the same player he once was. Still a solid Vet, but I can't possibly believe he is the answer to our problems. I would rather roll with Vonleh.
 
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