Merged: Another Crazy Thought: Baron Davis

[Nikolokolus]

Re: Why not Baron Davis ??

As I've watched Chauncy Billups help make the Nuggets emerge as a title contender from a also ran playoff team I have tried to figure out who could fill that role for the Blazers.

So I ask, why not Baron Davis ? Could you imagine a back court of Brandon Roy, Baron Davis and Rudy Fernandez ? What about those three ending games with LA and G.O ?

As far as I know Davis has never had off the court issues. He actually has done some great things in his community. How many Blazers have done as much as he has ?

His contract is for another 4 years I believe. The question would have to be if BRoy would accept having another player whom he may have to share the spotlight. This team desperately needs a veteran go to guy who can make a big shot in the clutch. Hopefully Brandon understands that.

I think this team is ready to add that last ingredient, ala Buck Williams and start competing for a championship and not just making the playoffs.

Bibby, Miller, Sessions these are guys who will not put us over the top. Baron Davis is as close to a Chauncy Billups type that I can think of that will put us over the top. Paul Allen, KP have to make a bold decision and shot for the stars and not think in the lines of the Free agents that are out there now.

So, can anyone make an argument why Davis would not be a good fit for the Blazers ? I'd love to know because I can't.

People tried to state pretty clearly why he would be a huge risk, it's all above in a variety of posts.

-Injury Prone: The guy has missed 20+ games 6 out of his 10 seasons in the NBA; either he's brittle as glass or he's a pussy.
-Expensive: 12+ million for a guy with his skillset isn't expensive by itself, but put together with his injury history it's a lousy investment.
-Hasn't displayed a great ability to fit in with teammates. Is this just Baron being misunderstood, or him being a giant douche? Who knows, but the fact remains he has not exactly left places on good terms and there's even talk that the Clippers would love to ship him back to Golden State in exchange for Corey Maggette this summer if they somehow land Rubio in the draft ... think about that for a second.

No one is doubting that Baron is a talented point guard, however, most people question his durability and the massive risk (in terms of chemistry and financial burden) associated with his acquiring him.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Re: Why not Baron Davis ??

Chauncey Billups was a Finals MVP. Billups is a defensive minded point guard. Billups has a track record of winning in Detroit. What has Baron done, other than score?

Um, perhaps the greatest upset series in recent memory? The only other times an 8 seed upset a 1 seed were best-of-5, and one of them was in the lockout-shortened season, where there wasn't that much between the two teams.

Look, I can see people's scepticism. I didn't like Davis for the longest time. I thought the Warriors were stupid for picking him up. But I think he really grew in GState, his time with the Clippers will have made him hungry, and he has pledged that next season he's going to kick ass. And he really does have superstar skills.

Sure I'd rather have Billups - everyone would. But Denver ain't giving him up. And on their best days, Baron is more talented than Chauncey. He's just ("just") not as reliable. Players that talented aren't available without flaws, and while Baron has plenty, he's also incredibly talented and 2 years and 5 months younger than Billups.

 

[Natebishop3]

Re: Why not Baron Davis ??

Um, perhaps the greatest upset series in recent memory? The only other times an 8 seed upset a 1 seed were best-of-5, and one of them was in the lockout-shortened season, where there wasn't that much between the two teams.

Look, I can see people's scepticism. I didn't like Davis for the longest time. I thought the Warriors were stupid for picking him up. But I think he really grew in GState, his time with the Clippers will have made him hungry, and he has pledged that next season he's going to kick ass. And he really does have superstar skills.

Sure I'd rather have Billups - everyone would. But Denver ain't giving him up. And on their best days, Baron is more talented than Chauncey. He's just ("just") not as reliable. Players that talented aren't available without flaws, and while Baron has plenty, he's also incredibly talented and 2 years and 5 months younger than Billups.

Yeah.... but it was the Mavs. We almost came back from a 0-3 deficit to beat them. That team is soft as tissue.

 

[STOMP]

Re: Why not Baron Davis ??

People tried to state pretty clearly why he would be a huge risk, it's all above in a variety of posts.

-Injury Prone: The guy has missed 20+ games 6 out of his 10 seasons in the NBA; either he's brittle as glass or he's a pussy.
-Expensive: 12+ million for a guy with his skillset isn't expensive by itself, but put together with his injury history it's a lousy investment.
-Hasn't displayed a great ability to fit in with teammates. Is this just Baron being misunderstood, or him being a giant douche? Who knows, but the fact remains he has not exactly left places on good terms and there's even talk that the Clippers would love to ship him back to Golden State in exchange for Corey Maggette this summer if they somehow land Rubio in the draft ... think about that for a second.

No one is doubting that Baron is a talented point guard, however, most people question his durability and the massive risk (in terms of chemistry and financial burden) associated with his acquiring him.

okay, he did leave New Orleans on somewhat bad terms. His team sucked talent wise and his owner (notorious cheapscape George Schinn) wasn't willing to go after FAs. They had no hope of winning on the horizon so he requested a trade. At least in my eyes thats somewhat understandable from his perspective. But I completely fail to see how he left GS on bad terms. They wanted him back by all accounts, but their notorious cheapscape owner Chris Cohan wanted him at a reduced dollar. The Clips stepped up and offered him more and he took it. I don't hold it against a player for going with the biggest contract offered... if I did, I'd resent 1/2 the league. Heck, I'm currently working for the company that offered me the most $$$ when I was last job hunting.

I believe that chemistry/player personalities are very important, and Baron may well be disqualified from becoming a Blazer on that front, but I don't think I can accurately gauge this from my seat anymore then I can accurately gauge the relative health of his knees. In general I just judge what I see on the court. If these other things aren't a problem with the Blazer front office and medical staff, and he was being made available, I'd support him coming on board.

STOMP

 

[MAS RipCity]

I think Baron is more into expanding his directing films career than improving his NBA game...I am not sure he wants to leave the LA scene

 

[maxiep]

Re: Another Crazy Thought: Baron Davis

that is still my favorite poster from my childhood. i personally loved that clyde wasn't on it. The other three had a grit and toughness to them, like they would run right over you if it meant getting the bucket. cylde never seemed like that kind of player to me.

as for the new one....

I think it's fitting that the slowest player is the only one who actually looks like he's running. LaMarcus looks like he has stomach cramps and is looking for the nearest WC and Roy is walking the ball up.

I think the slogan on that poster should be a take on a line from the movie "Next of Kin": "You ain't seen bad yet, but it's comin'...in about 16 seconds."

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I think I would do this trade - I dunno if the Clippers would:

Clippers give up Baron Davis and their draft pick (let's assume they get, say #4, not one of the top 2)
for
Blake, Outlaw, Bayless, $3M of PAM and a pick or two.

Then we use that high pick to get Brandon Jennings or Stephen Curry or whomever KP likes best as the trainee PG.

I think Outlaw and Bayless fit perfectly with the Clippers' style of a bunch of one-on-one players (isolation play being Dunleavy's only style of offense). But they also get a PG who'll do what he's told and give the ball to the people Dunleavy wants to have it. Plus they save Donald Sterling a bunch of cash.

Remember, this is the team that gave up the #2 pick in a draft that featured Rasheed Wallace, Jerry "the latest next Jordan" Stackhouse and Kevin Garnett for Rodney Rogers, the #15 pick and Brian "pre-Bison Dele" Williams.

 

[LittleAlex]

I think I would do this trade - I dunno if the Clippers would:

Clippers give up Baron Davis and their draft pick (let's assume they get, say #4, not one of the top 2)
for
Blake, Outlaw, Bayless, $3M of PAM and a pick or two.

Then we use that high pick to get Brandon Jennings or Stephen Curry or whomever KP likes best as the trainee PG.

I think Outlaw and Bayless fit perfectly with the Clippers' style of a bunch of one-on-one players (isolation play being Dunleavy's only style of offense). But they also get a PG who'll do what he's told and give the ball to the people Dunleavy wants to have it. Plus they save Donald Sterling a bunch of cash.

Remember, this is the team that gave up the #2 pick in a draft that featured Rasheed Wallace, Jerry "the latest next Jordan" Stackhouse and Kevin Garnett for Rodney Rogers, the #15 pick and Brian "pre-Bison Dele" Williams.

The Clippers would do this deal in a second since it would be the first time in recent memory they came out on top in a trade. I don't much care for Blake or Outlaw and have no clue what the future holds for Bayless. But I do know that Baron Davis is a quitter along the line of Iverson in Detroit. This would leave Portland with a moody jackass (Davis) as a starter and a huge gamble as a back-up. If Portland suffered just a bit of adversity, I assure you Davis would start having back or knee problems that would keep him on the bench.

The idea that Davis would work in Portland is absurd. Do you honestly think Roy and Davis will get along? Roy is all about winning and Davis is all about Davis.

 

[Masbee]

Re: Why not Baron Davis ??

As I've watched Chauncy Billups help make the Nuggets emerge as a title contender from a also ran playoff team I have tried to figure out who could fill that role for the Blazers.

Billups was the starting Point Guard, Team Captain, and often the best player for a team that went to 6 straight Conference Finals.

SIX STRAIGHT.

There is no other PG that has that resume.

The closest to it would be Tony Parker.

Steve Nash a couple of years ago.

I also don't think many would discount Chris Paul and his talent and leadership already shown in his young career.

Baron Davis just isn't in that same class.

So, since Billups, Parker and Paul are not available, rather than saying you want the closest thing to a "Billups", I think you have to say who could we obtain and who would be good fits?

 

[Dufferduck]

My thinking on trying to get Baron Davis is that we wouldn't have to mortage our future to find a go to player. Also I don't think Parker or Paul would be a good fit with Brandon because he hogs the ball in the 4th Q. I can't find the quote but I remember Brandon saying that we didn't need a Paul type because that wouldn't fit with his style. Baron Davis would fit with Brandon perfectly. Davis doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effectice like a Parker or Paul.

Also, Andre Miller ? Are you kidding me ? Like I said, KP has to think big and take a big risk if he wants to move this team into a championship caliber type team. I'm tired of all this talk of Miller, Bibby, etc.

Also, this is what really cracks me up. Why do fans care if X player is making Y amount ? Am I going to pay Baron Davis's contract ? Did any fans pay for Scottie Pippen's contract when we were 7 minutes away from a trip to the finals in 2000 ? Um NO. We will be over the cap after this year so who cares.

I'm not saying Davis is in the Pippen or Billups category as far as acheviments go, BUT he hasn't played with a Jordan or the cast that Billups had in Detroit. My point is Davis would fit in with this team. He has never been arrested, never had problems with fans. etc. I think the guy gets a bum rap. And to be honest, It wasn't until Billups got traded to Denver did I start thinking that Portland has do something to get Brandon help, like now.

This team has no second option !! Zero, but yet fans don't want to take a chance on someone who is percieved as a bad apple. I'm sure Houston Fans were pissed when they beat the Lakers in game 4 vs the Lakers. OR when they finally got out of the first round WITH Ron Artest.

I'm done with the Choir boys. LA is awesome , don't get me wrong, but he is soft and always will be. This team needs character, I think Davis would bring that. We have enough young talent, period. Stop with all the draft picks, etc.

Could you imagine if this team had Davis and Antonio McDyess ???

No, the majority of fans want Andre Miller and DeJaun Blair ?? LOL, that is small town thinking.

IMHO

 

[Nikolokolus]

My thinking on trying to get Baron Davis is that we wouldn't have to mortage our future to find a go to player. Also I don't think Parker or Paul would be a good fit with Brandon because he hogs the ball in the 4th Q. I can't find the quote but I remember Brandon saying that we didn't need a Paul type because that wouldn't fit with his style. Baron Davis would fit with Brandon perfectly. Davis doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effectice like a Parker or Paul.

Also, Andre Miller ? Are you kidding me ? Like I said, KP has to think big and take a big risk if he wants to move this team into a championship caliber type team. I'm tired of all this talk of Miller, Bibby, etc.

Also, this is what really cracks me up. Why do fans care if X player is making Y amount ? Am I going to pay Baron Davis's contract ? Did any fans pay for Scottie Pippen's contract when we were 7 minutes away from a trip to the finals in 2000 ? Um NO. We will be over the cap after this year so who cares.

I'm not saying Davis is in the Pippen or Billups category as far as acheviments go, BUT he hasn't played with a Jordan or the cast that Billups had in Detroit. My point is Davis would fit in with this team. He has never been arrested, never had problems with fans. etc. I think the guy gets a bum rap. And to be honest, It wasn't until Billups got traded to Denver did I start thinking that Portland has do something to get Brandon help, like now.

This team has no second option !! Zero, but yet fans don't want to take a chance on someone who is percieved as a bad apple. I'm sure Houston Fans were pissed when they beat the Lakers in game 4 vs the Lakers. OR when they finally got out of the first round WITH Ron Artest.

I'm done with the Choir boys. LA is awesome , don't get me wrong, but he is soft and always will be. This team needs character, I think Davis would bring that. We have enough young talent, period. Stop with all the draft picks, etc.

Could you imagine if this team had Davis and Antonio McDyess ???

No, the majority of fans want Andre Miller and DeJaun Blair ?? LOL, that is small town thinking.

IMHO

This isn't about fiscal responsibility and not wanting burden Paul Allen with the luxury tax.

If the Blazers wanted to trade for Baron's bloated 12+ million a year deal, that means they need to either match it with similar contracts or a combination of cap space and contracts, and since there aren't a whole lot of contracts that make up that difference you'd probably have to mortgage all of your cap-space and a couple of solid rotation players (Blake + Outlaw, plus all cap space) just to get him -- Basically Baron would be our one and only off-season 'impact' acquisition, and we'd still have a massive hole at backup power forward.

Now comes the tricky part; you've got a guy with a terrible history of shutting it down and being unable to complete a season, if he tanks again or goes on the shelf for an extended period you're now out your supposed go-to-guy and minus all of the players you gave up to get him ... not only that you're stuck with him because nobody would be so foolish as to trade anything of value for a busted down, overpaid, 30+ year old point guard with four years left on his contract.

People aren't opposed to Davis for the reasons you seem to think, most are opposed to Davis because there's a better than fifty percent chance he'll only be available for two-thirds of a season any given year.

 

[Run BJM]

I think Baron is more into expanding his directing films career than improving his NBA game...I am not sure he wants to leave the LA scene

Sad but true. I think a lot fo what you guys are saying re: Baron is right, both those of you who are pro Baron and anti Baron. My take is this:

Its a bad idea for the Blazers. Like Rip City says hes generally shown that hes more interested in his off-season life doing stuff in LA than his basketball life outside of a year and a half leading up to his contract expiring when he was actually in great shape and played an entire season. No surprise that he was out of shape, relatively unmotivated, and injured a lot right after receiving that big contract by the Clips.

To be honest I think he would get motivated, get in shape, and give it his all if he was traded to Portland. He can be lazy but he does seem more into it when hes got a coach who he can't boss around and a good team that excites him. However, I don't tihnk hes a good fit with your team. Forcing him into an extremely slow half-court offense is going to limit his abilities and I don't know if he'll ever learn to have a decent shot selection. Also hes a guy who needs to dominate the ball and I think there wouldn't be enough ball for him and Roy, one of them would be getting the short end of the stick and be wasting potential production. He is a leader, he can be a very positive or negative presence in the locker room depending on his relationship with the coach, he gets on guys hard if they're not getting it done. He is AMAZING at hitting big shots. His defense is actually underrated IMO, hes a good on-ball defender if you give him a challenging defensive assignment. If you give him some scrub to guard he'll cheat off him and try to go for steals in help defense and leave his man wide open (hence why scrub ass PGs always went off on us).

When hes on he really can will a team to an entire series win. He did it with the W's. He also led the Hornets to the second round twice, if you have a good memory you'll remember in a first round best-of-5 series against T-Mac's Magic he went for triple doubles in consecutive wins to close them out after T-Mac ran his mouth about how the Magic were gonna beat the Hornets. Hes uber competitive and hes a tough SOB who wouldn't back down to anyone. Hes got insane confidence. That being said, hes a bad fit for you guys. I don't think it would work out well, he'd do more harm than good in McMillan's slow ass system and either he or Roy would probably take a big reduction in production unless Roy can learn to play off the ball really well (not out of the question at all). He could, however, make Oden look better. He made Magloire an all-star for christs sake.

 

[Dufferduck]

Thanks BJM, It's nice to hear from knowledgeable fans who have actually seen Baron play and know more about him than the majority on this board. I think if Baron was surrounded with all the young talent we have and the potential to go deep into the playoffs he would be a big piece of the puzzle. He just doesn't come off as a Prima Dona when you watch him play. As far as him being into his films and off the court issues, think about all the publicity he would get if he was on a winning team going deep into the playoffs. Also I remember when he was at UCLA he was an above average defender. That will put him in the good grace's of Nate. The guy also is a freakish athlete in that he does things you would never expect him to do ( Like the dunk in the Dallas playoff series ). I remember him throwing it down and attacking the rim in his career.

Also, like you said, the guy lives for the big shot. He has been on so many crappy teams that he hasn't had the chance to really show what he could do if he were on a 55+ win team.

As far as injuries, I think in Portland he wouldn't have to play 40 plus minutes like he has in the past. I think with all of our depth we could keep his minutes down during the season and ramp them up in the playoffs. Also I think he is an inteligent human, being it BBIQ, Politics, his documentry on gang violence in LA. I have always thought he comes off as a very inteligent guy who uses his celebirty to talk about things he is involved with.

Not to bash on Outlaw, but really, does anybody really think he is a playoff caliber type who will ever do more than what he did this year in the playoffs ? Compare him to Joel, Pryz stepped up his game in the playoffs. We need more players who are vocal leaders as well as performers. We need more veterans who will get the call down the stretch because they are veterans and not Rookies or 2-3 yr type players. Face it, that is the way the NBA is ran, like it or not. Blake, Outlaw, maybe Rudy, Batum, Greg these guys are still young and they will not get the calls when we need them. Blake is maxed out as far as potential and if that is what you are getting, NO thanks. He would be a good B/U , but that is all he is.

I think it is very clear that Nate wants a vet PG, somebody who he can trust. It will be a long time till Bayless or any other rookie we draft is able to play the way Nate wants his PG to play. I bet the first thing he said to KP after we were knocked out and KP and Nate started talking about the season, Nate said get me a Vet PG !!

 

[oldmangrouch]

OK, time for a reality check.

Miller and Davis both came into the league the same season, so we have a nice level playing field to compare them.

For their careers:

APG are almost identical.
PPG - Davis has average 2.3 points higher, but with a much lower FG%.
Defense - Miller all the way.
Durability - Miller has averaged an amazing 81.5 games a season, while Davis has averaged 67.

Davis does have one big advantage over Miller - his skill at grabbing the spotlight! As I said before, I am less down on Davis than many people here....but claims that he is better than Miller are based on hype, not substance.

 

[Dufferduck]

OK, time for a reality check.

Miller and Davis both came into the league the same season, so we have a nice level playing field to compare them.

For their careers:

APG are almost identical.
PPG - Davis has average 2.3 points higher, but with a much lower FG%.
Defense - Miller all the way.
Durability - Miller has averaged an amazing 81.5 games a season, while Davis has averaged 67.

Davis does have one big advantage over Miller - his skill at grabbing the spotlight! As I said before, I am less down on Davis than many people here....but claims that he is better than Miller are based on hype, not substance.

Seriously, comparing the two through stats. It's all about a system and what players fit in that system. It's not that I dislike Miller, it's just that he is a horrible fit with Brandon. Miller would be great with the 2nd unit because he could dish out dime's and not be counted on for offense.

Baron could play off of Roy and if he gets double-teamed he can kick it out to Davis, Webster, etc.

Disagree on defense, it's not that Baron is a great defender, It's that Miller's D is below average. I watched all of Philly's playoff games and zoomed in on Miller. Great mid-range, good penatrator but could NOT create his own shot and would give the ball up in the few minutes of the game. Like I said, great assist man, but BRoy is gonna have the ball in the 4th Q. So why would you have a horrible 3pt shooter and someone who can't create his own shot ??

That is what he is

 

[Nikolokolus]

Seriously, comparing the two through stats. It's all about a system and what players fit in that system. It's not that I dislike Miller, it's just that he is a horrible fit with Brandon. Miller would be great with the 2nd unit because he could dish out dime's and not be counted on for offense.

Baron could play off of Roy and if he gets double-teamed he can kick it out to Davis, Webster, etc.

If you look at Miller's career usage rate of 20 to 23 compared to Davis' rate of 25 to 30 I'm not sure where you're getting the notion that Davis would be able to play off-ball with Brandon. Furthermore Miller has already proved that he can coexist with a ball dominant wing in Andre Iguodala whose game bears a lot of similarities to Brandon's.

Disagree on defense, it's not that Baron is a great defender, It's that Miller's D is below average. I watched all of Philly's playoff games and zoomed in on Miller. Great mid-range, good penatrator but could NOT create his own shot and would give the ball up in the few minutes of the game. Like I said, great assist man, but BRoy is gonna have the ball in the 4th Q. So why would you have a horrible 3pt shooter and someone who can't create his own shot ??

That is what he is

I have to ask, which Andre Miller are you watching? The only Andre Miller I'm aware of that plays in the NBA was assisted on 30% of his shots last season and has consistently been one of the best post-up guards in the league, not to mention he possesses the ability to penetrate and get to the rim and either finish at a high percentage or get fouled at a high percentage.

http://www.82games.com/0809/08PHI1.HTM
http://www.82games.com/0809/08LAC1.HTM

Go ahead and follow these links and tell me what it is that you are seeing that I'm not.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Fancy getting Baron Davis AND Ricky Rubio?

As fellow HOOPSWORLD writer Sam Amico wrote for his ProBasketballNews.com site, the Clippers may be willing to trade the first pick of June's NBA Draft if it means ridding themselves of Davis.

For weeks now, the Clippers have been rumored to be enamoured with Spanish Guard Ricky Rubio. With his complicated buyout (which costs Rubio six million euros this season or 10 million euros next season), Rubio should slide past the Memphis Grizzlies, owners of the second pick, and still be available when Oklahoma City picks third.

The Thunder is obviously keen on the former Sooner and the consensus top overall prospect, Blake Griffin.

And while Griffin staying in Oklahoma and the Clippers getting out from under Davis' contract seems like an everybody-wins scenario, the reality is that Los Angeles simply won't be able to get a deal done. Oklahoma City has no use for Baron Davis and bringing in a third party seems unlikely considering that Davis is already 30 and has played in only 80 percent of his teams' games over the last four years.

The only way the Clippers could move such an enormous contract would be to take on two or three rotten contracts in return. And if they did that, they would be paying for signing Davis all over again.

Davis + the #1 for ?

Part of it would simply be cap room, but the rest? Include Blake so the Clippers don't just have Taylor at PG. Hell, include all three of our current PGs. Throw in Outlaw. Buy Milwaukee's #10 pick and throw that in there.

Now I look at it, it doesn't look like we have enough, unless maybe Washington doesn't want its #5 and we can get it for Outlaw (and Blake?) and throw that in.

Here we go:

Portland gets:
Baron Davis plus $9M of contracts (Bell, Songaila, Pecherov) + THE NUMBER ONE PICK (our cap room covers the overflow)
gives up:
Outlaw, Bayless, Blake, Sergio, a shitload of picks, our caproom and some of PAM

Clippers get:
Ridnour (bleh, but short contract) and Sergio (could finally get to show his stuff), the #5 and the #10. Oh, and throw in $3M.
get rid of:
Baron Davis's humungous contract. Oh, and the #1 pick.

Wizards get:
Outlaw and Bayless (and throw in a second rounder or 4 plus $3M)
get rid of:
$5.6M of dead wood and the #5.

Bucks get:
Steve Blake (again! But this time Skiles is coaching) plus the #24 and maybe some PAM too.
get rid of:
Ridnour and Bell ($9.8M) - that means they clear at least $5M off their cap which they're desparate to do to sign Sessions or Villenueva. (Blake is insurance in case they lose Sessions). Oh, and the #10 pick - they also save money by dropping 14 places in the draft.

I know, I know, too complicated ever to happen. But it sort of makes sense to everyone.
Portland: Get Rubio (might even get something out of swapping with Memphis so they get Griffin - could include that as a sweetener for the other teams) who can grow behind Davis. Bring over Koponen as third PG.
Clippers: unload Davis, get servicable PGs (I bet Clippers fans would love Sergio) and still get the #5 and #10 - they actually need volume of players rather than players at one particular position.
Washington: they want to reload to win now. Outlaw could be a very valuable scorer, and they might not've got a better player at #5 than Bayless.
Bucks: want to offload their pick to save salary to re-sign RFAs. Voila!

Hey, KP's done more complicated maneuvers before...

 

[Nikolokolus]

Why in God's name would the Clippers do all that wrangling to unload Davis and also give up Rubio? Secondly, why would Rubio pay his huge buyout to come over if he was going to be stuck behind Davis, and Thirdly, this obsession with B-diddy isn't healthy

 

[RickyRubio]

Absolutely not.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Obsession over B-Diddy isn't good....but if we can get the Boom Dizzle, watch out!