Merged: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

tell me again why we need Blake's outside shooting if we have Miller, Bayless and Roy at the guard rotation? With Webster able to come off the bench in a Bayless/Roy/Webs combo if you need 3's really badly.

If you would've said "we need his D", I might've chuckled, but you'd have a case. Shooting 38-111 (34%) from 3 and not even having the Kings stay out on you screams "his 3pt shooting isn't really helping that much".

 

[RR7]

Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

You can't clear cap space by waiving a guy. Players are typically bought out, not waived. A big chunk of cash up front for the player, but less than he'd get over the rest of his contract saving the team money. The team does get a roster spot back to sign someone else.

you can when he has a team option. By waive him, I mean decline his option.

 

[B-Roy]

Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

you can when he has a team option. By waive him, I mean decline his option.

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You can't decline Blake's option, he's an expiring contract.

You had a chance to decline it last off-season, but you picked it up. So you are now stuck with him for the rest of the season.

 

[Nate Dogg]

Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

I'm glad I gave up buying a Blake jersey two years ago. Hes going downhill fast.
I heard several blazer fans tonight scream "You suck" when blake missed his first 3point attempt (in front of the sacramento bench).

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

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You can't decline Blake's option, he's an expiring contract.

You had a chance to decline it last off-season, but you picked it up. So you are now stuck with him for the rest of the season.

He was talking about Jones--if we were to trade Blake for Jones now, he was saying we could trade Jones after the end of the season, but before June 30, giving the other team an easy way to clear cap space by declining Jones' option. However, the CBA doesn't allow players to be traded after the end of the season if their contract will or could end at 6/30. So, his thesis is incorrect.

 

[Draco]

Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

I'm glad I gave up buying a Blake jersey two years ago. Hes going downhill fast.
I heard several blazer fans tonight scream "You suck" when blake missed his first 3point attempt (in front of the sacramento bench).

Blake's a fun player when he's the 9th man who sometimes plays backup PG. Then you can root for the guy with little talent that tries hard to succeed. But when he's 3rd on the team in minutes he becomes quite the opposite of fun to root for.

 

[hasoos]

Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

I'm glad I gave up buying a Blake jersey two years ago. Hes going downhill fast.
I heard several blazer fans tonight scream "You suck" when blake missed his first 3point attempt (in front of the sacramento bench).

I just think he had his career last year, and peaked, and came back down to being the Steve Blake he was before last year. That's the Steve Blake I know.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

You can't combine players with TPEs, and I highly doubt we are going to send a perfectly healthy player to them for free.

Actually you can, if the deal which involves them could also have been split into two separate valid deals in which the TPE would be used alone.

He was proposing Blake for Wright, essentially. Blake to Miami for TPE, then TPE for Wright.

And this is why that would work.

 

[Draco]

Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

He was talking about Jones--if we were to trade Blake for Jones now, he was saying we could trade Jones after the end of the season, but before June 30, giving the other team an easy way to clear cap space by declining Jones' option. However, the CBA doesn't allow players to be traded after the end of the season if their contract will or could end at 6/30. So, his thesis is incorrect.

Wrong. Players with non-guaranteed salaries can be traded after the season and cut before the next season. That's how Cleveland got Shaq, Sasha Pavlovic's contract was mostly non-guaranteed. Same scenario for when the Spurs landed Richard Jefferson, Bruce Bowen and Fabricio Oberto's contracts were mostly non-guaranteed.

The Blazers had the same opportunity last summer in being able to trade away Outlaw or Blake before their final year options were exercised.

 

[Schilly]

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Exactly. I'm STUNNED that the Blazers are saying Miller isn't available. That is ridiculous. We have three point guards. Bayless must play and we need Blake's outside shooting. Miller is the odd man out.

What outside shooting? The 3pt percentage hat has spiraled down to .342?

 

[WillG]

Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

Miller has value, but it has dipped at the moment because of his age and his play of late .
He's been a top player for years though, and is a true professional, so I see him bouncing back farther into the season (new team & conditioning); where his value will have increased once again. (especially with the likelyhood of PG injuries around the league come that time of the season).

If his play doesn't pick up, Then he's no worse than Blake, and a good mentor for Bayless.

 

[magnifier661]

ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

Blake Likely to be traded to the Heat

There has been talk that Andre Miller doesn't fit with the Blazers and that he could be dealt. However, ESPN.com's Chad Ford writes that Steve Blake is the one most likely to be traded.

Ford writes: "Two general managers told me they've called the Blazers to inquire about Miller's availability and been told that Miller isn't available right now. Rather, those two GMs have reason to believe that Portland GM Kevin Pritichard is shopping Blake. Why Blake? One reason is that he's struggled to get the offense going smoothly ... Two, Blake is easier to move and may have more trade value. ... Three, in the opinion of one GM, the Blazers won't be quick to give up on Miller."

Ira Winderman of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel writes that one possible destination for Blake is Miami.

"Keep in mind, as well, that the trade exception the Heat holds from last February's Shawn Marion-Jermaine O'Neal trade also would accommodate Blazers point guard Steve Blake, a player who long has interested the Heat. The trade exception would allow the Heat to then include Daequan Cook or another lower-priced player in such a deal with Portland."

The trade exception is worth $4.26 million and was generated from Marcus Banks' contract.

 

[magnifier661]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

And this from another sportswriter "Portland Trail Blazers shopping Steve Blake?
By Mark J. Miller

Portland Trail Blazers guard Andre Miller(notes) has supposedly been on the trading block this season, but he's supposedly not on it right now because the team is offering up another guard to potential suitors, according to ESPN.
Two general managers supposedly told the paper that Steve Blake(notes) has been offered to them when they called asking for Miller. One thing that apparently bugs Blazers coach Nate McMillan is that he supposedly feels like he has to play Blake even when he's struggling because Brandon Roy(notes) likes to play with him rather than Miller. Blake doesn't make that much dough and has a contract that will end at year's end so he'd be more attractive in a trade than Miller.
The idea is supposedly to get Blake out of Portland so the Roy pressure is relieved and Miller has more room to gain confidence and playing time. Plus, the team would like to give Jerryd Bayless(notes) some more playing time, particularly since he's been vocal about his lack of time on the court.
Bayless hasn't reportedly asked for a trade but is planning to if things remain the same."

 

[PapaG]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

I'd love to see this place if BLANKY is traded for the trade exception, then is resigned this summer by the Blazers.

 

[magnifier661]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

I'd love to see this place if BLANKY is traded for the trade exception, then is resigned this summer by the Blazers.

Well what I don't get is that "Trade Exemption" is free'd cap for the Heat when this summer roles around. I would think they would like that to be ready for their Bosh or LJ push.

 

[Nate4Prez]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

I think Bayless' play of late has more to do with this than Blake's or Miller's. I hope at least we get to see Miller start about 5 games in a row to get time with the first unit.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

Well what I don't get is that "Trade Exemption" is free'd cap for the Heat when this summer roles around. I would think they would like that to be ready for their Bosh or LJ push.

Blake's contract is up so it is not like it hurts their chances of landing a FA. I suspect mission #1 for Miami is just to resign Wade.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

Blake to Miami for the TE would be my favorite deal.


I would then wait until they are back with the team and send Rudy and Travis to GS for Anthony Randolph.

Miller/Bayless/Mills
Roy/Bayless/Webster
Batum/Randolph/Cunningham
Aldridge/Randolph/Pendergraph
Oden/Przybilla/Howard


Then I would look to get a coach that likes up tempo and be able to slide Aldridge to the 5 and run with

Bayless/Roy/Batum/Randolph/Aldridge a lot next season.

 

[magnifier661]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

Blake's contract is up so it is not like it hurts their chances of landing a FA. I suspect mission #1 for Miami is just to resign Wade.

Well to get a jump on offers. I know Blake's contract is up as well, but that doesn't get free'd up until after July 15th or something. With the exemption, it allows them to have it free'd immediately and able to try and get a deal done before anyone else.

 

[Schilly]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

Well to get a jump on offers. I know Blake's contract is up as well, but that doesn't get free'd up until after July 15th or something. With the exemption, it allows them to have it free'd immediately and able to try and get a deal done before anyone else.

They can renounce his rights on July 1st.... They can't sign anyone until after teh Moratorium anyway, but they can negotiate assuming the renouncement.

 

[hasoos]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

Blake's contract is up so it is not like it hurts their chances of landing a FA. I suspect mission #1 for Miami is just to resign Wade.

Definitly. From what I watched on NBATV the other night and the discussion there, Wade is definitly putting out feelers. They were talking about how this year he is stepping back just a little bit (taking more jumpers, less inside shots) to see if any of his team mates there will step up, because he is gauging whether he wants to stay there. He is trying to figure out if they have the pieces so that they can add a player or two and compete at the highest level again, and if the franchise will get him back to the promised land, or if he needs to go elsewhere.

 

[magnifier661]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

Definitly. From what I watched on NBATV the other night and the discussion there, Wade is definitly putting out feelers. They were talking about how this year he is stepping back just a little bit (taking more jumpers, less inside shots) to see if any of his team mates there will step up, because he is gauging whether he wants to stay there. He is trying to figure out if they have the pieces so that they can add a player or two and compete at the highest level again, and if the franchise will get him back to the promised land, or if he needs to go elsewhere.

Just getting LJ or Bosh would be a HUGE advantage for them. From the rumor I read at the beginning of the season, I heard LJ, Wade and Beasly would be the tandem in 10-11 season. If that's true, then we are in some serious trouble. They are all very young.

 

[hasoos]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

Just getting LJ or Bosh would be a HUGE advantage for them. From the rumor I read at the beginning of the season, I heard LJ, Wade and Beasly would be the tandem in 10-11 season. If that's true, then we are in some serious trouble. They are all very young.

If that happened we might as well sign Mike Tyson as our 15th man. Our best bet would be to send him out on the floor to end one's career so we would even have a chance!

 

[Wheels]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

I would then wait until they are back with the team and send Rudy and Travis to GS for Anthony Randolph.

I HIGHLY doubt GS takes that deal. and I'm a Rudy fan.

 

[andalusian]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

Blake is more likely to be traded, imho, simply because Blake is an attractive contract to trade this year, and Miller will be next year. So, if they really think that JB is the future at the 1, you trade Blake this year, consider making him a small offer next year as a F/A and shop Miller next year. In the meantime, you hope that Patty can hold the fort as a BU if you do not draft, trade or sign another PG.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

I HIGHLY doubt GS takes that deal. and I'm a Rudy fan.

Nelson doesn't like Randolph, for whatever reason. I think he would jump all over getting Rudy and Travis. Two players that would excel in his offense.

 

[Wheels]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

Nelson doesn't like Randolph, for whatever reason. I think he would jump all over getting Rudy and Travis. Two players that would excel in his offense.

I for some reason understood Randolph as the centerpiece in the Amare trade, and them saying he was pretty much untouchable.. or was Monta the one int he Amare trade? maybe I'm mistaken here.

 

[SpanishFly]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

Nelson doesn't like Randolph, for whatever reason. I think he would jump all over getting Rudy and Travis. Two players that would excel in his offense.

IMO Nelson is old, less patient, and wants to win NOW and does not really want to develop players. Add his recent health issues and IMO he is one impatient man. If we could use that impatience to get a good piece then we should certainly at least try.

 

[RR7]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

I don't think he really cares about winning now or later. I think he's more concerned about his paycheck, and getting fired means he gets paid, retiring doesn't. He's awful, and I don't think he really cares.

 

[Schilly]

Re: ESPN insider: Blake most likely to be traded

Blake is the most likely to be traded partly because his contract expires, but also because this year he is our 5th best Guard behind Roy, Rudy, Bayless and yes Miller.