Merged: Crabbe Traded to Brk

[UKRAINEFAN]

It's also interesting NO choose to keep the better defender/worse shooter of the two (Crabbe/ET).

Why do you think it was NO's choice?

 

[BigGameDamian]

If its Crabbe for Gordon straight up, would be great, but Hark is part of this equation

Harkless to get Meyers out?

 

[illmatic99]

What I do lovce is no one saw this coming. NO is SNEAKY!

Wasn't it universally understood that BK would be the one place where AC could be dumped?

 

[santeesioux]

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Wasn't it universally understood that BK would be the one place where AC could be dumped?

Amazing that they've become the bad-contract-dumping-ground this summer. Mosgov, Carroll, and Crabbe all in a month...

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I don't see that a trade exception really helps us; this means that a trade would be salary coming in and no salary going out.

 

[Natebishop3]

Does this bring us down to the full MLE range?

 

[chzbrgr]

Amazing that they've become the bad-contract-dumping-ground this summer. Mosgov, Carroll, and Crabbe all in a month...

They're sick of losing top 3 picks

 

[Hobbesarable]

Nets To Acquire Allen Crabbe From Blazers
July 25th, 2017 at 1:34pm CST by Luke Adams
A year after aggressively pursuing shooting guard Allen Crabbe as a restricted free agent, the Nets have landed their man. According to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN (Twitter link), the Trail Blazers are trading Crabbe to Brooklyn in exchange for forward Andrew Nicholson. Upon acquiring Nicholson, Portland will waive him and stretch his contract, Wojnarowski reports (via Twitter).

When Crabbe reached restricted free agency in 2016, he was one of a handful of players to sign an offer sheet with the Nets. That deal, worth nearly $75MM over four years, looked like an awfully steep price to pay for a player with 17 career starts to his name. However, the Blazers thwarted Brooklyn’s attempts to poach Crabbe, matching the Nets’ offer sheet and bringing him back to Portland.

A year later, that decision to match Crabbe’s deal – while retaining other RFAs and adding Evan Turner – looks like it may have been a mistake. The Trail Blazers were in position to pay a huge tax penalty in 2018 if team salary remained as high as it was, and dumping a contract or two appeared to be an inevitability. By swapping Crabbe for Nicholson and stretching the $19MM+ left on Nicholson’s contract over the next seven seasons, the Blazers will clear approximately $16.5MM from their 2017/18 cap, ending up only about $3MM above the tax threshold.

It remains to be seen if the Blazers have another move up their sleeves — the club has been linked to Carmelo Anthony, despite Carmelo’s apparent unwillingness to waive his no-trade clause and accept a deal to Portland. Even if no second deal is coming though, the Blazers should be happy with this trade from a financial perspective. It will allow the club to shed more than $50MM in total projected salary and tax penalties.

From the Nets’ perspective, the deal will allow them to land a player they loved at a slightly lesser cost, albeit a year after they had hoped to acquire him. Once the Blazers matched Crabbe’s offer sheet last July, he was ineligible to be traded to Brooklyn for a full year, but once those 365 days passed, it made sense for the two teams to engage on trade discussions.

By sending out Nicholson in the swap, the Nets appear to have the cap room necessary to absorb Crabbe’s salary without having to make any corresponding roster moves. According to Wojnarowski (via Twitter), Crabbe also waived his trade kicker, making things a little simpler for both teams. That decision will cost the 25-year-old some money, but he’ll have a chance to assume a larger role in Brooklyn than he had in Portland.

In 79 games last season for the Blazers, Crabbe set new career bests with 10.7 PPG, 2.9 RPG, a .468 FG%, and a .444 3PT%. While it remains to be seen how Brooklyn’s starting lineup will shake out, Crabbe figures to see plenty of minutes alongside D’Angelo Russell in a new-look Nets backcourt.

The Blazers will generate a trade exception worth $12,969,502 in the deal. That figures represents the difference between Crabbe’s and Nicholson’s salaries for 2017/18.

 

[Scalma]

I don't see that a trade exception really helps us; this means that a trade would be salary coming in and no salary going out.

Doesn't it theoretically mean we could absorb Gordon without sending out anything?

 

[Strenuus]

I don't see that a trade exception really helps us; this means that a trade would be salary coming in and no salary going out.

It sounds like it will allow us to absorb a contract since it's the difference between Crabbe and Nicholson's contract. So we can use it to take on a contract without it hurting us.

I think... all that stuff is confusing to me.

 

[chzbrgr]

Doesn't it theoretically mean we could absorb Gordon without sending out anything?

Or just in a trade right? Like if we sent out Meyers + harkless + davis and got back gordon it would be like losing 26m off our salary cap and not taking on any money? Am I off base here?

 

[illmatic99]

LMAO @ Joe Freeman and his source "confirming" Woj.

 

[illmatic99]

Or just in a trade right? Like if we sent out Meyers + harkless + davis and got back gordon it would be like losing 26m off our salary cap and not taking on any money? Am I off base here?

Can't combine players with TPEs. Has to be two separate deals.

 

[Strenuus]

Or just in a trade right? Like if we sent out Meyers + harkless + davis and got back gordon it would be like losing 26m off our salary cap and not taking on any money? Am I off base here?

Considering its a trade exception, yes. We would be able to artifically add that amount to make trades work, saving us money. I THINK. I could totally be wrong.

 

[Natebishop3]

LMAO @ Joe Freeman and his source "confirming" Woj.

Twitter is full of this kind of bullshit.

 

[Strenuus]

LMAO @ Joe Freeman and his source "confirming" Woj.

DAMN, then whoever is following Woj is a source.

LMFAO.

 

[Minstrel]

Considering its a trade exception, yes. We would be able to artifically add that amount to make trades work, saving us money. I THINK. I could totally be wrong.

You can't add it to anything to make a trade work. The exception would need to be traded straight up for a player.

 

[chzbrgr]

Can't combine players with TPEs. Has to be two separate deals.

So we'd have to trade for melo first? lol

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Does this bring us down to the full MLE range?

Not quite. We're below the apron, but any MLE use would put us back above it.

 

[santeesioux]

How close does waiving Pat get us to under the cap?

 

[Strenuus]

You can't add it to anything to make a trade work. The exception would need to be traded straight up for a player.

Ooooh. Okay, that makes sense... But who could we be using it for?

 

[chzbrgr]

How close does waiving Pat get us to under the cap?

It doesnt we're 4.8 over the cap his hold is 1.5

 

[Blazinaway]

Well this is disappointing, I thought we could get some kind of value for him, but the market swung the wrong way and it's better to get rid of him than keep him at that price.

we had to eat over 6 mil per in Nicholson's salary and they netted out getting Crabbe for 11 mil or so per, signing Crabbe last yr was not smart, but at least it did not cost us an asset besides the 2.7 mil per yr assuming we "stretch" Nicholson as reported

 

[santeesioux]

It doesnt

I know, but how much closer does it get us?

 

[Mr. Robot]

Neil Olshey is one lucky man!

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Can't combine players with TPEs. Has to be two separate deals.

Yes and no. As long as a single deal could technically be split into two separate CBA-approved deals, it could still be done.

 

[chzbrgr]

I know, but how much closer does it get us?

we're 4.8 over and his hold is 1.5

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Doesn't it theoretically mean we could absorb Gordon without sending out anything?

Sure, but then we would be back in the same miserable cap situation as before the Crabbe trade.

 

[chzbrgr]

Sure, but then we would be back in the same miserable cap situation as before the Crabbe trade.

but with better players...