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It's your story, tell it however you like. You're only proving my point.

What's your point? That Lucas was the instagator? Seems to fly in the face of what Chris posted.
 
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I think he'd mesh just fine. Love his game and think he'd be a good fit.

However, the confusion that would result from having to distinguish "Oden" from "Odom" in the play by play would have to make me pass. ;)
 
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What's your point? That Lucas was the instagator? Seems to fly in the face of what Chris posted.
My point is that people don't want Odom in Portland because he's a punk for instigating a potential fight. However, they love Lucas, who also instigated a fight.

Neither Lucas or Odom almost instigating a fight makes them a "punk" in my book, or is reason to write them off, if they'll help this team win. If Odom would help this team win, that's another issue.

I think it's silly to assume a players character is based off of one snapshot in time during a competitive event where scuffles take place all the time. Just like it was crazy when people were claiming Ariza was a punk and a bad guy because he hurt Rudy (on accident).

Make sense? I'm guessing you'll disagree with something I said, but hopefully I reillustrated my point better this time.
 
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We can't offer him more than $9 a year, so he better hope OKC wants him (which they don't).

We could renounce the euro's and offer him a Hedo-like 5 year $52+ million deal.
 
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Odom's blowing it. He's going to either end up on a team he doesn't want to be on, or getting even less money than what LA is offering.
 
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We could renounce the euro's and offer him a Hedo-like 5 year $52+ million deal.
That's true, I guess I ruled that out because it would be badly over-paying for him (worse than Turk).

I can't see any scenario short of getting a young all-star in his prime that would result in Claver gets renounced
 
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Odom's blowing it. He's going to either end up on a team he doesn't want to be on, or getting even less money than what LA is offering.
Don't you get the feeling he'll probably end up somewhere for the MLE, just because he's burned so many bridges and doesn't want to come crawling back to LA?

It's the same reason the Lakers lost Ariza. They told him they didn't think he was worth the money he wanted, and once Ariza realized the teams with capspace were looking elsewhere, he decided he wasn't going to give any team but the Lakers a discount.
 
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers-lamar-odom15-2009jul15,0,5773043.story

Odom>>>Millsap

The guy can play the 3 unlike millsap and he almost averaged a double double!!!
Make an Offer
unless you mean that he can face up from the perimeter you're mistaken. He's put on some weight and suffered some injuries and aging. At 31 dude is no longer quick enough to guard many 3's in this league... he's a PF.

I would support driving his price up though. Since there are precious few FA suitors left, I'd imagine his agent is pleading with the Blazers to do that for him after (presumably) Utah matches. Bleed some $$$ from Buss

STOMP
 
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Don't you get the feeling he'll probably end up somewhere for the MLE, just because he's burned so many bridges and doesn't want to come crawling back to LA?

It's the same reason the Lakers lost Ariza. They told him they didn't think he was worth the money he wanted, and once Ariza realized the teams with capspace were looking elsewhere, he decided he wasn't going to give any team but the Lakers a discount.

Yeah.. the guy just finished a 6-year, $63 million contract. And $9 mil per for three years seems pretty reasonable at his age. Don't know why he isn't learning from the Ariza situation. His agent is blowing it.
 
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Odom's blowing it. He's going to either end up on a team he doesn't want to be on, or getting even less money than what LA is offering.

I hope he ends up with a team in the East for too much money. I would rather have him not helping the Lakers or another team that's a threat to our HCA quest...

Ed O.
 
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My point is that people don't want Odom in Portland because he's a punk for instigating a potential fight. However, they love Lucas, who also instigated a fight.

Neither Lucas or Odom almost instigating a fight makes them a "punk" in my book, or is reason to write them off, if they'll help this team win. If Odom would help this team win, that's another issue.

I think it's silly to assume a players character is based off of one snapshot in time during a competitive event where scuffles take place all the time. Just like it was crazy when people were claiming Ariza was a punk and a bad guy because he hurt Rudy (on accident).

Make sense? I'm guessing you'll disagree with something I said, but hopefully I reillustrated my point better this time.

He didn't instigate a fight, he came to a teammate's defense. The 6er that threw a sucker punk at Gross was the obvious instigator. You didn't tell the whole story is the problem. Matter of fact the next game Lucas went and shook hands with the same player that had hit Gross. Far from a punk. Lucas was and is a class act. You either know very little about what happen or are just twisting the facts to try to fit your argument not caring about the truth.
 
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I would love to get Odom. He absolutely seems like a good guy. He is versatile and he has championship experience. Plus, if the Lakers lose Odom, they're not good enough to repeat. Win, win!
 
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I just heard Paul Sutherland, the Laker announcer, say that Lamar is one of the best humans beings he has been around.

Sometimes people in this forum are waaaay offbase.

And I remember when Blazer employees would say if you only knew how really nice Bonzi and Sheed and Darius were...

Lamar Odom is a punk. He always has been a punk and always will be one. There's a reason we haven't tried to swing a deal for him.
 
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Gut feeling tells me Odom wouldn't fit the culture here. Deeper gut feeling tells me he wouldn't mesh with LMA in particular.

Oh, I think LMA's elbow would mesh nicely with Odom's teeth.
 
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The only problem I have with Odom is that he is the most inconsistant player I have ever seen. He can play 35 minutes with zero pionts and 1 rebound, then play like an all-star the next night. I read he nearly drove Jackson to drink.
 
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And I remember when Blazer employees would say if you only knew how really nice Bonzi and Sheed and Darius were...

Lamar Odom is a punk. He always has been a punk and always will be one. There's a reason we haven't tried to swing a deal for him.



I have actually had the opportunity to meet Odom, and he was as nice as he could be. Not fake nice either, but just genuinely a nice guy. I think more than anything it is a character he plays on the court, like Laimbeer or a wrestler. He is an agitator and a jackass on the floor, but off of it he is different. I don't think I remember seeing anything written about him as being a bad teammate either. Don't most all of his teammates like him?
 
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My point is that people don't want Odom in Portland because he's a punk for instigating a potential fight. However, they love Lucas, who also instigated a fight.

Neither Lucas or Odom almost instigating a fight makes them a "punk" in my book, or is reason to write them off, if they'll help this team win. If Odom would help this team win, that's another issue.

I think it's silly to assume a players character is based off of one snapshot in time during a competitive event where scuffles take place all the time. Just like it was crazy when people were claiming Ariza was a punk and a bad guy because he hurt Rudy (on accident).

Make sense? I'm guessing you'll disagree with something I said, but hopefully I reillustrated my point better this time.

Your characterization of Mo demonstrates that you either never saw him play, or you don't understand the role of the enforcer in the pre-Tomjanovich/Washington NBA.
 
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I've been a fan of Odom since his Rhode Island then Clipper days... and I say NO THANKS to him as a Trail Blazer. When he gives it 100% he's damn good, but he doesnt do that on a consistent basis. I'm also not sure he fits in with our character... many years ago he was busted for having some hippie lettuce. I do like his game and I think we could really use his toughness/dont fuck with me attitude. I'm just not sure he's worth the cash/years he wants when he doesnt bring it on a consistent basis.
 
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I have actually had the opportunity to meet Odom, and he was as nice as he could be. Not fake nice either, but just genuinely a nice guy. I think more than anything it is a character he plays on the court, like Laimbeer or a wrestler. He is an agitator and a jackass on the floor, but off of it he is different. I don't think I remember seeing anything written about him as being a bad teammate either. Don't most all of his teammates like him?

Yeah, his teammates love him; he always shares his weed.
 
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This article went a long way to winning me over on Odom:

Maybe Grandma Mildred is to thank for one of the most irrepressible personalities in the NBA, a 6'10" forward who, at 29, has been in the league for 10 seasons and famous for nearly half his life, and yet still wears his mitt when he goes to baseball games in the hope of catching a foul ball, collects pro wrestling figurines as a hobby and asks the staffer behind him on the team's plane for permission to recline his seat because "my legs are kind of long." More than an hour into the autograph signing in Huntington Beach, Destiny spotted a bulge in her dad's left sneaker. "What's that?" she asked. Odom reached into his size-16 hightop and pulled out the crumpled potato chip bag. "I didn't know what else to do with it," he said. Destiny smiled and shook her head.
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"I've heard fans yell to him in the middle of games, 'Nice shot!' and he'll turn around and say, 'Thanks, man,'" says John Ireland, sideline reporter for Lakers telecasts on KCAL 9. Before the Dec. 25 game against the Celtics at Staples, Odom was wishing fans in the courtside seats Merry Christmas when he stopped at Adam Sandler. "Happy Hanukkah," he said. Topics in his interviews range from his favorite TV show (MacGyver) to his favorite tourist destination ("Paris," he says. "I can smell the wine in the air") to his alter ego ("There's Lamar, who's humble, and then there's Odom") to his unconventional wardrobe, including a Sergeant Pepper--style ensemble that prompted coach Phil Jackson to ask Odom if he had come to the arena straight from band practice. Says point guard Derek Fisher, "He's our new Shaquille O'Neal."
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Lakers G.M. Mitch Kupchak says Odom is the most popular player in L.A.'s locker room, but he also might be the most popular player in the locker room next door. The Los Angeles D-Fenders are the Lakers' developmental-league affiliate; they practice in the same gym and play on the same court as the NBA players but reap few of the other benefits. "Most guys at that level don't have time for us," says guard Brandon Heath. "But L.O. is always telling us to come over to his house, offering to take us out to dinner. We could damn near go over there in our drawers, and he'd probably take us to buy clothes."
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The Lakers are paying Odom $14.6 million this year, and he gives a fair amount back. "I saw him signing autographs after a game and told him to hurry up and get on the bus or he'd be fined," says Robert Lara, the Lakers' head of security "He told me he'd take the hit. He couldn't say no to the kids." Odom has a hard time saying no to parents as well. "I know one boy who doesn't even play basketball, but Lamar pays his tuition," says Joseph Arbitello, a former teammate of Odom's at Christ the King in Queens, N.Y., and now the coach and athletic director there. "His mother was struggling, so she called Lamar and he took care of it."

Jesus, what an asshole!
 
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Bah. It would be hard... but I could get used to it. If he would play backup 3 and 4.
 
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I have a funny feeling that he's going to end up back on the Clippers through a sign-and-trade. Maybe for Camby? After all, the Lakers aren't balking at the AVERAGE salary, just the length of the contract. (Like us with Roy, in fact.)
 
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What part of "Most of the Blazer players reportedly personally don't like the guy and would probably be a locker room cancer" don't you get?

Where was this legitimately reported? I know a lot of people assumed as much, but what happens in the heat of the moment doesn't always end up with lasting animosity. It's entirely possible it's true, but I'd like more than an assumption to go on.
 
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I wouldn't mind Odom...but not for 5 years, but you could succesfully argue that the 5th year of Odom will be better than the 5th year of Hedo....Odom is a much more versatile player than Hedo is, and can be just as\more inconsistent...but while everyone praises Kobe for the Lakers championship, I saw enough Laker games (particularly in the playoffs) to note that Odom had as much to do with thier success...

I think if POR could work a de-escalating contract...frontloaded with a signing bonus....that went 4 years with a 5th year team option...then I think POR should seriously consider it....

I think he provides an immediate upgrade at SF...he weakens the Lakers...he has some additional incentive against one of our fiercest division rivals...and he adds a lot of versatility...and provides that 3rd scorer and extra facilitator that this team needs....

There is a lot I don't like about Odom, but a lot to like as well...the only scary part for me in POR adding him, is the number of years he wants (5)...if POr can find a way around that, then I think he should be a very viable option....
 
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To get anywhere near the level we'd need to sign him away from the L*kers (around 10M or so, and even then ??) we'd need to move someone. Even if we offered Odom the Hedo special, I think LAL may still match. To front-load it any more actually makes it more palatable for them, IMO. But to do so anyway would entail us sending out players to create more room.

I know it's not an RFA situation, but I can't help feeling that unless the LA offer is blown away, Odom's staying there. Or Miami.
 

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