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[TBpup]

Did I miss something? Who's 2K?

International prospect Krakow Kurtreykovic.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

 

[SwissBlazer]

30 mins ago – via Twitter fishsports
Mike Fisher: Among the moving cogs here: Source tells @1053thefan #Blazers already dangling multiple picks to #Wolves to get to 7 – and C Zach Collins.

http://wp.me/p5O7Gu-4HEd via @HoopsHype

Don't think it needs To move this high to get Z.Collins

 

[TBpup]

From way back, I thought Collins might be the target.

 

[B-Roy]

Best chance is that on draft night there is a player available at 20 or 26 that some team likes but didn't think would be available. Desperation forces a trade.

 

[TBpup]

Don't think it needs To move this high to get Z.Collins

That might be true but Minnesota might be the only one in the 7-10 range that will deal.

 

[illmatic99]

I really like Collins. Some fear of him being a tourney flash in the pan, but I like the upside.

Getting up to 7 means someone else might take him from us below. Minny (7), Sac (10), Det (12), and Den (13) might be others who have their eye on him.

Thibs fwiw, has liked Turner for a while now.

 

[glazeduck]

From way back, I thought Collins might be the target.

Yep, lowest risk, highest upside (of those reasonably attainable) in the draft...

 

[Schilly]

I'm going to predict that no matter what happens I will try to justify it as being a good day and then be accused of being an apologist. At that point I will start condemning people for being Debbie Downers and to back away from the edge.

 

[handiman]

I really like Collins. Some fear of him being a tourney flash in the pan, but I like the upside.

I hear ya, with the sample size being so small, but did you see the vid of him scorching the net in workouts? I can't help but think what we saw in the tourney is the real Collins, and he was just a late bloomer on the college scene.

 

[Chris Craig]

I really like Collins. Some fear of him being a tourney flash in the pan, but I like the upside.

Getting up to 7 means someone else might take him from us below. Minny (7), Sac (10), Det (12), and Den (13) might be others who have their eye on him.

Thibs fwiw, has liked Turner for a while now.

I like Collins, but Turner and to of our picks for him. For a backup center.

 

[TBpup]

I like Collins, but Turner and to of our picks for him. For a backup center.

If they were to do that, it is because they think he can be a starting PF at some point.

 

[Scalma]

Collins could just be a smokescreen for Markkanen.

Can Collins play next to Nurkic? I think it's possible, but if he can't then you shouldn't be doing all this for what amounts to a backup.

 

[illmatic99]

Turner + 15 + 26 for Aldrich + 7

Take Collins @ 7 and OG @ 20.

 

[Chris Craig]

Collins could just be a smokescreen for Markkanen.

Can Collins play next to Nurkic? I think it's possible, but if he can't then you shouldn't be doing all this for what amounts to a backup.

Exactly

 

[oldfisherman]

My “gut opinion” of Olshey’s draft day plan based on the un-confirmed rumors and reading tea leaves.

Olshey has two players targeted. He is fairly confident one will still be on the board @ # 15. So 15 will not be traded.

The second player is probably going to be gone by15, so NO is looking for ways to move up. And he is whiling to use 20 & 26 and probably a player to move up.

Drafting both of these players has a higher priority than shedding salary.

Shedding salary is the last resort plan if no other trades happen that bring back more talent. Especially if the cost to shed salary is going to burn a first round pick.

The bottom line is. NO has a plan, with several options. However, we are getting a least one player out of this draft that NO really wants.

 

[illmatic99]

Actually scratch that, if we manage to get up to #7 and still have a pick on our hands, I'd package those two and a future pick to move up to #4 or higher. Send that pick along with Harkless/Aminu/Crabbe for Porzingis and Melo.

 

[dviss1]

Actually scratch that, if we manage to get up to #7 and still have a pick on our hands, I'd package those two and a future pick to move up to #4 or higher. Send that pick along with Harkless/Aminu/Crabbe for Porzingis and Melo.

Are we sure they like playing together?

 

[chzbrgr]

I hear ya, with the sample size being so small, but did you see the vid of him scorching the net in workouts? I can't help but think what we saw in the tourney is the real Collins, and he was just a late bloomer on the college scene.

Blame Mark Few for being one of the worst x's and o's coaches ever

Brought his best player and the best prospect the program has ever seen off the bench all season and made him bang down low alongside Karnofski. He is the American Porzingas.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Zach Collins might send over the edge

 

[illmatic99]

Blame Mark Few for being one of the worst x's and o's coaches ever

Brought his best player and the best prospect the program has ever seen off the bench all season and made him bang down low alongside Karnofski. He is the American Porzingas.

Collins is the American Porzingis?

I see Collins as closer to someone like Aldridge tbh. Maybe a lil less skill but more shot blocking. @MickZagger how off am I with this comp?

 

[MickZagger]

Collins could just be a smokescreen for Markkanen.

Can Collins play next to Nurkic? I think it's possible, but if he can't then you shouldn't be doing all this for what amounts to a backup.

Why couldn't he play next to Nurkic. As far as footwork and lateral quickness goes for a 7ft'er Collin is about as good as it gets. His jumper is wet and he didn't really get to showcase it at Gonzaga.

If this deal goes down we will have the best young big man tandem in the NBA. No doubt.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

Are we sure they like playing together?

My impression is that Porzingis missed his exit interview because of how Phil Jackson was treating Melo. Just a guess.

 

[chzbrgr]

Collins is the American Porzingis?

I see Collins as closer to someone like Aldridge tbh. Maybe a lil less skill but more shot blocking.

Bruh Collins is wet. He has wayyyy more range the LA and quicker feet. KP is the comparison to me. The only unknown really is can he put the ball on the floor and attack the basket the same way KP can. I think he's shown flashes of that ability and when a real coach gets ahold of him... Sky is the limit. He's gunna be a special player.

 

[MickZagger]

Collins is the American Porzingis?

I see Collins as closer to someone like Aldridge tbh. Maybe a lil less skill but more shot blocking. @MickZagger how off am I with this comp?

Not far off at all. Hybrid 4, can play 5 as well. He has excellent footwork down low, but honestly I think Collins will be most effective offensively out on the perimeter, opening things up for Nurk. He can also play the 5 when Nurkic is getting a breather. Defensively, he has great timing and decent strength and is a block machine. This would be a cool version of the twin towers.

 

[chzbrgr]

Not far off at all. Hybrid 4, can play 5 as well. He has excellent footwork down low, but honestly I think Collins will be most effective offensively out on the perimeter, opening things up for Nurk. He can also play the 5 when Nurkic is getting a breather. Defensively, he has great timing and decent strength and is a block machine. This would be a cool version of the twin towers.

How is that not the american Porzingas?

 

[MickZagger]

This could be Parrish/McHale like tandem.

 

[Scalma]

How is that not the american Porzingas?

Porzingis can score off the dribble. Can Collins?

 

[craigehlo]

That Collins outside jumper looks SLOW to me. Like Meyers slow. Easy to close out on and sag off from.

 

[BonesJones]

Bruh Collins is wet. He has wayyyy more range the LA and quicker feet. KP is the comparison to me. The only unknown really is can he put the ball on the floor and attack the basket the same way KP can. I think he's shown flashes of that ability and when a real coach gets ahold of him... Sky is the limit. He's gunna be a special player.

Exactly. He's a mixture of a traditional PF and an old school PF. He has both.

@Mediocre Man would you be fine with getting him because he's a WABPF and not a WABC?